67 Kashmiri students sent to their homes for celebrating Pak win

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  1. The Messiah

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    67 Kashmiri students sent to their homes for celebrating Pak cricket win

    A university in Uttar Pradesh has packed off 67 students from Kashmir to their homes for celebrating Pakistan's victory over India in a cricket match on Sunday, prompting a top official to order an inquiry.

    Vice-chancellor of Swami Vivekanand Subharti University (SVSU) Dr Manzoor Ahmad said "he was taken aback by such an unacceptable gesture of a few students".

    "We can`t accept such behaviour from any student," he said.

    The trouble began on Sunday night when a group of local and Kashmiri students were watching India-Pakistan cricket match in the hall of the varsity's Madan Dhingra Hostel.

    A few Kashmiri students clapped every time an Indian player's wicket fell, and later celebrated the Pakistan win.

    "Some students complained that a few students reportedly shouted Pakistan zindabad on way to their rooms," said Ahmad.

    He said the authorities initially decided to suspend only those students who had shouted slogans.

    "But a three-tier inquiry finally recommended all 67 Kashmiri students residing in Madan Dhingra Hostel be suspended indefinitely because they didn't reveal the names of the handful of wrongdoers actually involved in creating trouble," Ahmad said.

    The VC said, "We were expecting the students to apologise. But when that did not happen, we had to suspend them all of them."

    He rejected reports that local students had clashed with Kashmiri students or shouted slogans. The authorities had reported the matter to the police after realising anger was brewing among the local students living in other hostels, which could escalate the tensions.

    "These students were dropped at Ghaziabad and Delhi railway stations under police security cover," said senior superintendent of police Omkar Singh.

    More than 200 girls and boys from different parts of Jammu and Kashmir are pursuing various courses in the university.

    Meanwhile, district magistrate Pankaj Yadav has asked additional city magistrate Ram Bharat Tiwari to inquire into the incident and submit his findings within a week.

    The decision to suspend the students was taken by the varsity authorities without consulting the police or the district administration, the SSP said.

    However, the parents of the students have told the media in the valley that a few students had been attacked by their local counterparts.

    "There was a big confrontation and non-Kashmiri students had vandalised the rooms of our wards," a parent told Kashmir's largest circulated English daily, Greater Kashmir.

    Another newspaper, Kashmir Reader, quoted Irfan Ahmad Rather, a BTech student at the varsity, saying, "We clapped when Pakistan won the match. This infuriated the local students and they went on a rampage, damaged the hall, hurled abuses at us and threatened to beat us."

    A group of parents speaking to Hindustan Times however appreciated the colleges move to give the students a safe passage to the valley.

    In a signed letter released to the media, the group said that sending the students to Kashmir was a good step as it avoided any untoward incident. "There was a heated argument between some students but most students are innocent, so we think college did a good thing by sending them to valley in order to avoid any clashes," said a parent.

    67 Kashmiri students sent to their homes for celebrating Pak cricket win - Hindustan Times
     
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  3. Samar Rathi

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    This is treason!
     
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    They should be deported to pure land.
     
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    Ahem. Who needs to be investigated?
     
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    Indian Muslims should be at the forefront of such actions against Kashmiri separatists. Such actions bring a bad name to Indian Muslims and they get tarred with an "unpatriotic" tag due to the actions of these Kashmiris.
     
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    During the second world war, just imagine if hypothetically, a group of Japanese students in the US began cheering for Japan and shouted anti-US slogans and tried to mock the US in front of hot-blooded youngsters. What would you expect young boys to do?
     
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    It never came to that, the Americans put them all in concentration camps(offcourse the US called them "internment camps"). A few patriotic Jap-Americans proved their loyalty by fighting against the Germans in Europe.

    Find out more here Japanese American internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    This is stupid and unacceptable. How can students be suspended because they support a rival nation's sports team? How is the suspension supposed to change what the Kashmiri students think? Best case scenario is that the threat of suspension will force those students to suppress their feelings within all while feeling a sense of being discriminated against for what they believe in. This is not the way to deal with such things-in fact, the school has far overstepped its authority with this action. The VC has no right to control students' opinions regarding such extra-curricular activities.

    I would even encourage the Kashmiri students to file a class-action lawsuit against the university and the VC for denying them their right to free speech and abuse of their academic authority.
     
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    The vice chancellor is a Muslim himself before this Kashmiri thing is turned into a Muslim thing

    Vice-chancellor of Swami Vivekanand Subharti University (SVSU) Dr Manzoor Ahmad said he was taken aback by such an unacceptable gesture of a few students.
    We can`t accept such behaviour from any student, he said
     
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    You do not know the complete kashmiri situation here. They hate India and still want to get educated and work here. They already celebrate pakistans independence day in kashmir and burn India's flags on India's independence day.

    If this kind of action is not taken, soon they will start celebrating paki independence day outside kashmir (other parts of India) as well. This had to be done.
     
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    I read somewhere that the majority of people in POK are actually Shia - were they clapping for India.
     
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    This kind of wooly-headed liberalism always amazes me.

    Patriotism and nationalism is a fact of life. Worldwide. People are influenced to a great deal by emotions such as patriotism.

    These 67 students were suspended due to fear of violence and disturbances. When 67 people start making noises in support of India's primary foes, there will be opposition and potential violence. There were disturbances and hooliganism by the other party (pro-India nationalists). There was a real chance of the situation escalating and getting out of hand. What the university did was perfectly right and legitimate.
     
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    So how is persecuting them for their beliefs supposed to change them? If they burn Indian flags, they should be arrested, as that is a cognizable offence under the law. However cheering for the Pakistan cricket team is not.

    You cannot suppress someone's opinions just because you do not like them. If all unpopular speech, writings, songs, movies etc were to be censored, what will be left of so-called "democratic" India? Not only is this against all principles of liberal thought, it is also against the Constitution of India, which guarantees freedom of expression as one of our fundamental rights.
     
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    But who will shut down AMU?
     
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    It is said that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. I would much prefer a wooly headed liberal to a so-called patriot who forces his version of patriotism down the throats of his fellow citizens.

    It is the duty of the university to provide security to the students lodged in its hostels. Instead, according to the article:

    If the university is unable to maintain order and discipline on its campus, they should seek the help of the police. However:

    So not only were the university authorities incompetent when it came to safeguarding the lives and property of their students, but they were also arrogant in seeking to resolve the matter without involving the authorities.
     
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    I live in Netherlands and I have cheered for Pakistan during hockey and cricket matches against Netherlands without any fear or consequesnces.
    But then again, Netherlands is acivised and tollerant country.
     
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    Expelling Kashmiri students is big mistake; not only are you denying them their fundamental rights, you are proving them right that they are not Indians.
    This is exatcly what seperatists need, showing the youth that they are being discriminated.
    Patriotism is good, blind chauvinsim wrong!
     
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    What will be left of democratic India? Are you kidding me? Let me see how your people react when I come there and sing slogans against your country. Being a democratic country does not mean that we will tolerate anti-Indian thoughts.
     
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    Your fundamental rights do not include performing anti-Indian activities.
     
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    Freedom of speech is your first fundamental right in any democratic country.
    How is cheering for a foreign sports team an anti-indian act?
     

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