25k Indian farmers seek president’s permission to hang themselves on Independence Day

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    25k Indian farmers seek president’s permission to hang themselves on Independence Day

    Published time: 14 Aug, 2015 17:47Edited time: 15 Aug, 2015 13:28

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    Over 25,000 farmers in India have sought permission from their president to commit suicide on Independence Day, report local media. The move was sparked by the government’s failure to pay the farmers for land lost to the construction of the Gokul Barrage.
    The farmers wrote in a letter to President Pranab Mukherjee that they would either hang themselves or commit self-immolation on August 15 if the government fails to act.

    We have lost all and want to end our lives. We want the president’s permission,” said farmer Roop Singh, as quoted by NDTV. Another farmer, Kisan Sangh, accused the government of ignoring the farmers’ interests.

    Farmer Kishan Bahadur echoed those sentiments, stating:

    We demand compensation for the land acquired from us years ago for construction of Gokul Barrage. We are left with no land to grow food for children and are forced to do petty jobs,” The Times of India reported.

    Other media reports say the farmers are seeking compensation because the land became submerged when water levels in the barrage rose.

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    Regardless, farmers have been fighting for 17 years to receive compensation from the government for the lost land. They have also been on a relay fast for the past two weeks to highlight their demands.

    According to the International Business Times, following the suicide threat, Mathura district magistrate Rajesh Kumar reportedly said the “state government is ready to pay four times extra compensation to the farmers. We have already submitted our files. The funds will be released soon.”

    A report from NDTV said that a decision from the Allahabad High Court is likely in a few days, and that around 30 farmers have been identified as deserving of compensation.

    In November 2014, more than 50 people were arrested while staging a demonstration over the Gokul Barrage issue after allegedly defying police by holding a meeting to mobilize the farmers.

    Farmer suicides are fairly common in India. Over 40 committed suicide at the beginning of the year in Mathura, following unseasonal rains that destroyed their crops. Thousands of others have taken their lives in recent decades, due to drought and inadequate government measures.

    https://www.rt.com/news/312485-india-farmers-suicide-president/
     
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  3. Sylex21

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    This sort of Drama-queening is so annoying. These farmers should be given official permission and marched out into a field, then publicly shamed when they don't go through with it.

    If they actually wanted to do it, they would have just done it. Instead they want to be overly dramatic and whine like little girls, in an attempt to get attention.

    This is as stupid as that campaign some politician set up to send Modi millions of DNA samples of hair.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    A LOT of these failures can be contributed to the Pyjama-Kurta Sarkar but we have to see what Suite-Boot Sarkar can do for farmers.Current govt is in too much pressure to give results in everything in short time whereas previous govt ruined India for 60+ years.

    A very interesting fact is that most developed countries have just 3-10% of economy based on Agriculture and they produce even so much that they can export for example US.

    In India Agriculture is over 50% so Govt need to see things in long term as well.India has about 60% arable land which is a big % if compared to other countries and can gain big from it.
     
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    As far as India is considered, there is certainly an problem that big proportion of population still is dependent on
    Agriculture for livelihood. And GOI is taking efforts to bring in manufacturing in India etc to increase employment in other sectors. This change is not going to happen overnight; but it will be taken care of in decade or two.

    @Neo: Did you had any kind of land reforms in Pakistan(did you abolish "zamindari")? What is the state of farm laborers in Pakistan? What percentage of population depended on agri owns land there?

    [Hint] Watch from around 8:00 in video below :bounce:

     
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    Pakis kill themselves for apparently no reason..so their media dont get mileage reporting such things.
     
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    I saw Some statistics, Finland has 3.75 Million People who belong to High Middle income bracket. India has 5.75 milloin. I do not know if farmers belong to it.
     
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    The problem here is different, globally statistics show that for a farmer to be able to feed and subsist(no luxury) with a four member family that farmer should have at least one acre land under agriculture. The problem here is that up to 65% of Indian farmers do not have that kind of land and hence are always in a state of penury. We as a nation need massive industrialisation so that this massive population can be employed as cheap labour.
     
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    You should make a deal With Russia and start resettling Siberia With Your extra People. There is land for everybody. Next era is post industrialization...
     
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    Farmers are not the only ones in the queue,add us engineers to this list ,especially the ones from tier 2 and 3 cities and those who belong to the core sector.
     
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    I feel sad for you if you think industrialization will save you. Low pay jobs were a good way for China to rise, but that was 30 years ago...

    Next revolution in industry and manufacturing will dramatically drop the need for workers in the process.

    Agriculture....you have how many hundred million small farmers? Farming is also becoming automated, just look at US.

    There are no easy solutions...
     
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    What is this talk about permission for suicide? Is suicide not a sin in your culture/religion?
     
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    It is a sin and it is also illegal.

    They are seeking permission from the President because it is illegal. However, suicide is one crime for which the one who commits the crime cannot be prosecuted or punished.

    There are farmers who are in a desperate situation. I am not sure what percentage of farmers all over the country are in dire straights.
     
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    All political drama ... suicide is a crime too....
    In India => play victim and get freebies ... that is the game.
    especially for farmers who get a "Minimum sale price" + subsidized seed/fertilized/water etc.
    Anyway
    for religion/ culture one is allowed to "die off" AFTER COMPLETING ONES DUTIES ONLY IN CERTAIN BELIEFS/SECTS(not exactly sects but variants as Dharmics don't have sects)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallekhana
    ^^ very very limited and RARE also NOT suicide as these people have a fundamentally different view of life and death
     
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    Nobody in India will understand this.They think a large population would automatically lead to a larger workforce but what they don't realize is that in an age where automation has advanced to such an extent that a large workforce is simply not required.Let alone manufacturing,machines have even replaced humans in service sectors.My neighborhood bank branch has just replaced two of it's tellers with two ATM deposit and withdrawal machines.
    India's humongous population is it's greatest existential threat.
     
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    Somehow automation may have been overstated as imminent. In the time to come industrialization is still the way to absorb a large chunk of the workforce out of agriculture in the developing world. Like in Sri Lanka people r excited abt upcoming foreign textile plants and a possible Volkswagen assembly line so that their youth may opt for jobs at home rather than becoming miserable maids alike in the gulf or tea farming as a mainstay of gvnmt revenue.

    Some of manufacturing is shifting back to Japan and America thanks to relatively lowered costs. Korea and Japan r short of labor thus r hiring many from China, Mongolia, Nepal and so on. Many jobs not gonna b totally automated in the near future.

    Perhaps farming cannot be easily automated / machinized in India as in US - subj to Indian posters findings - in factors such as terrains and land ownership (concentrated in big plantations or scattered among small farmers etc.).

    ~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
     
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    This is politics, let them hang. Why do they need permission? They need a rope.
     
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    the problem with India, is that there are too many small and mid scale farmers, unlike US where farming is done on large scale. In addition, Indian farmers should lean toward cooperatives (cooperatives in dairy has been a huge success, but our agri dept. and farmers must employ this system in agriculture too.)
     
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    And on top of that a LOT of food is wasted due to poor management.The poverty in India is artificial and one of the main reasons is mismanagement and wastage. :tsk:

    All this happening in Kurt-Pyajama Sarkar ( led by a मूर्ख toddler Raul Vinci ) rule who claims to be messiah of farmers. :dude:

    Below is a FOOD FOR THOUGHT........... :shock:


    FCI admits 1.94 lakh MT foodgrain wasted between 2005-13

    Lost in Transit? Where Has All Our Foodgrains Gone?

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