2016 India–Pakistan military confrontation

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JAMMU: 15 Pakistani soldiers were killed on Friday as Indian troops retaliated to incessant firing by Pakistan along the international border in Jammu and Kashmir since yesterday, the Border Security Force (BSF) said.

Two Pakistani Frontier Force soldiers and 13 Rangers were killed, suggested an initial assessment by the BSF based on calls monitored by Indian agencies. Sources say agencies have intercepted calls from hospitals asking for help to treat the injured.

"There are ceasefire violations repeatedly, we are giving a befitting reply. As far as our people have seen, what we have assessed is at least 15 rangers have been killed," said senior BSF officer Arun Kumar.

Exactly a week ago, seven Pakistani soldiers were killed along the International Border by the BSF.

Firing has been on for the last 24 hours in Rajouri, Samba, Abdullia, RS Pura and Suchetgarh, officials said.

Heavy shelling from Pakistan began around 5 am along the Line of Control in Nowshera, Sundarbani and Pallanwala districts. Yesterday, BSF soldier Jitender Singh, 46, died when Pakistani Rangers fired a mortar shell in RS Pura sector.


Three BSF soldiers have been killed in Pakistani shelling in the last five days.

Areas near the border have been on high alert because of a spurt in firing from Pakistan in the past few days.

"Yesterday, unprovoked ceasefire violation continued till night. It again started at three places this morning. We are giving them an appropriate response," said Defence Ministry spokesperson Manish Mehta.

Home Minister Rajnath Singh had on Thursday urged the BSF to give a "fitting response".

Over the last week, a six-year-old child was killed and 30 people were injured in shelling.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/15-p...-and-kashmir-1585203?pfrom=home-lateststories
 

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15 Porkis killed since the past one week, not today. And that is a rough estimate. There could be more or could be less as reported by the BSF.

Why isn't our media covering the action real-time like in the past?
 

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BSF 105mm At LOC.









Photos are taken from a documentary, These guns have 24km range, surpassing any mortars or light arty that is presently deployed on other side, BSF is using these guns intensively with its motars too.
 

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BSF own 105mm in action.













Photos are taken from a documentary, These guns have 24km range, surpassing any mortars or light arty that is presently deployed on other side, BSF is using these guns intensively with its motars too.
Can you please post the link of that documentary ..
 

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Alright again tell you something is that Pakistan rangers actually lost 20 in two days firing.The report of BSF is giving fitting reply is wrong.IA actually now taking command of all posts.
Last night IA fired 18 rounds of 105mm IFG in direct fire mode to some paki towers....Dats it for now.
@Kunal Biswas sirji plz Confirm this paan wala news.
Lol my paanwala news..........:p
 

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Indian Army soldier's body mutilated by Pakistani terrorist army men at Machil. Probably BAT team.

RIP to brave heart.

Airspace violation also reported time for some action I suppose.
 

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It is hard to tell. I for one doubt that things are tougher today than it was between 1989-1995. Back then, India was ill-prepared for militancy, fed by a significant number of battle hardened Afghan mujahideen - veterans of the Soviet-Mujahideen War. On top of that, the media was primarily DD and AIR, with private media in a rudimentary state. Then, there was the media blanket that was placed. Moreover, what happened three decades ago is a faded memory today and what is happening today seems like a big deal.
@pmaitra: I don't have much context about 1989-1995, maybe you are right in that things were tougher back then. One factor that is different is the government at the center (Congress VS BJP) and the paradigm shift in India after the surgical strikes. India has demonstrated a willingness to take Pakistan on if necessary whereas previous governments would just wring their hands in despair and express indignation. Also a change in India's stature in the world along with improved relations with the West has made it more secure on the military front. The next few days or months should be very interesting IMO.
 

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porkistan is pissed off with surgical strike and they still think they can win war..need more dead people from pakistan border.. keep it up indian army
 

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@pmaitra: I don't have much context about 1989-1995, maybe you are right in that things were tougher back then. One factor that is different is the government at the center (Congress VS BJP) and the paradigm shift in India after the surgical strikes. India has demonstrated a willingness to take Pakistan on if necessary whereas previous governments would just wring their hands in despair and express indignation. Also a change in India's stature in the world along with improved relations with the West has made it more secure on the military front. The next few days or months should be very interesting IMO.
I agree. Actually, the paradigm shift happened for the first time when both India and Pakistan went publicly nuclear. At that point, there was added pressure on both countries to refrain from escalating. Pakistan took this as the weakness of India and then Kargil happened. India had to go to war, but sustained large number of casualties because it had to restrain its troops from crossing the LoC. Since then, dialogues have happened and there has always been the spectre of things blowing out of proportion. Then we had the second paradigm shift, and that was the surgical strikes. I think this time around Modi took the hard decision to call Pakistan's bluff, and I am pretty sure he had to go through a lot of mental agony before he could acquiesce to any of the several options he must have been presented with.
 

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Amid Indo-Pak tension, Navy plans major drill

NEW DELHI: With the operational situation along the western front remaining volatile amid heavy exchanges of cross-border firing with Pakistani forces, the Indian security establishment is taking no chances in being ready for any contingency. Even as the Army and IAF airbases maintain top-levels of operational readiness, the Navy too is swinging into action with a major exercise "Paschim Leher (western wave)" in the Arabian Sea from next week.

Over 40 warships and submarines, backed by maritime fighter jets, patrol aircraft and drones, have already begun to amass on the western seaboard for the intensive combat manoeuvres, which include "a little cross-deployment" even from the eastern seaboard, say top defence sources. Concurrently, the defence ministry has delegated emergency financial powers to the three Service vice-chiefs, Lieutenant General Bipin Rawat, Air Marshal B S Dhanoa and Vice Admiral K B Singh, and set up empowered procurement committees to "make up deficiencies" in the ammunition and spares stockpiles of their forces "at the earliest", added the sources.

The Indian security establishment's assessment is that Pakistan army chief General Raheel Sharif "may try something" in the form of BAT (border action team) operations or a major terror strike in the Indian mainland. "Gen Sharif is likely to keep tensions high in the run-up to his slated retirement towards November end," said a source.

"Gen Sharif may be angling for an extension as the Army chief or assuming some other important role despite his edgy equation with the Nawaz Sharif government. Since Thursday morning, there has been a sudden increase in firing by Pakistani forces both along the line of control (LoC) and international border (IB) in J&K," he added.

The firing has been particularly intense in the Sunderbani, Poonch, Bimber and Tangdhar areas along the LoC as well as the Kathua, Hiranagar and Samba regions of the IB. The cross-border exchanges have been largely restricted to 82-mm mortars and machine gun fire, except for an occasional use of 120-mm heavy mortars by the two sides. Artillery duels, which would mark a major escalation, have not been witnessed so far.

"The situation is not warlike. But it's certainly hot. Our forces have registered as many as 57 ceasefire violations by Pak forces since the Indian Army conducted surgical strikes against terror launch pads in Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir a month ago on September 29," said another source. The creation of the empowered committees, which have already visited Russia and Israel, to fast-track acquisitions for artillery shells, rockets, missiles, tank ammunition and the like comes in the backdrop of the 1.3-million strong Army holding less than half of its authorised war wastage reserves (WWR) for 40 days of "intense fighting", as was reported earlier by TOI.
The Paschim Leher naval exercise, in turn, is a scaled up version of the earlier "Defence of Gujarat Exercise (DGX)" and geared towards tackling both conventional military as well as terror threats emanating from the sea. "The exercise, from November 2 to 14, of the Mumbai-based Western Naval Command will test operational readiness all along the west coast," said the source.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...vy-plans-major-drill/articleshow/55124010.cms

They are back and this time with an even bigger force.
 

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Amid Indo-Pak tension, Navy plans major drill

NEW DELHI: With the operational situation along the western front remaining volatile amid heavy exchanges of cross-border firing with Pakistani forces, the Indian security establishment is taking no chances in being ready for any contingency. Even as the Army and IAF airbases maintain top-levels of operational readiness, the Navy too is swinging into action with a major exercise "Paschim Leher (western wave)" in the Arabian Sea from next week.

Over 40 warships and submarines, backed by maritime fighter jets, patrol aircraft and drones, have already begun to amass on the western seaboard for the intensive combat manoeuvres, which include "a little cross-deployment" even from the eastern seaboard, say top defence sources. Concurrently, the defence ministry has delegated emergency financial powers to the three Service vice-chiefs, Lieutenant General Bipin Rawat, Air Marshal B S Dhanoa and Vice Admiral K B Singh, and set up empowered procurement committees to "make up deficiencies" in the ammunition and spares stockpiles of their forces "at the earliest", added the sources.

The Indian security establishment's assessment is that Pakistan army chief General Raheel Sharif "may try something" in the form of BAT (border action team) operations or a major terror strike in the Indian mainland. "Gen Sharif is likely to keep tensions high in the run-up to his slated retirement towards November end," said a source.

"Gen Sharif may be angling for an extension as the Army chief or assuming some other important role despite his edgy equation with the Nawaz Sharif government. Since Thursday morning, there has been a sudden increase in firing by Pakistani forces both along the line of control (LoC) and international border (IB) in J&K," he added.

The firing has been particularly intense in the Sunderbani, Poonch, Bimber and Tangdhar areas along the LoC as well as the Kathua, Hiranagar and Samba regions of the IB. The cross-border exchanges have been largely restricted to 82-mm mortars and machine gun fire, except for an occasional use of 120-mm heavy mortars by the two sides. Artillery duels, which would mark a major escalation, have not been witnessed so far.

"The situation is not warlike. But it's certainly hot. Our forces have registered as many as 57 ceasefire violations by Pak forces since the Indian Army conducted surgical strikes against terror launch pads in Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir a month ago on September 29," said another source. The creation of the empowered committees, which have already visited Russia and Israel, to fast-track acquisitions for artillery shells, rockets, missiles, tank ammunition and the like comes in the backdrop of the 1.3-million strong Army holding less than half of its authorised war wastage reserves (WWR) for 40 days of "intense fighting", as was reported earlier by TOI.
The Paschim Leher naval exercise, in turn, is a scaled up version of the earlier "Defence of Gujarat Exercise (DGX)" and geared towards tackling both conventional military as well as terror threats emanating from the sea. "The exercise, from November 2 to 14, of the Mumbai-based Western Naval Command will test operational readiness all along the west coast," said the source.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...vy-plans-major-drill/articleshow/55124010.cms

They are back and this time with an even bigger force.
"Yes, the armed forces do not have enough WWR for even 20 days of a full-scale war. But that does not mean they are not operationally ready. The empowered committees have been set up because it was seen that the normal capital procurement route was proving cumbersome and taking too long," said the source.
HUGE facepalm moment. Maybe the strategy is to wait out Rahil's retirement and also buy time to accumulate war reserves and then strike while the iron is still hot but not as hot as its now.
 

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I think this situation is slowly moving towards war! , We are preparing for worst! May be government have inputs of escalation of this situation to a war! Let see what future holds!.


Rest is peace Soldiers you are our true heroes!.
 

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PA has a deal with Nawaz and wants to avoid the Nov 2nd events ever since Imran spoke against the Chinese companies on CPEC. Best way to divert attention is to create tensions in Kashmir...
 

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