2 missing Kalyan youths call family and confirm fighting for ISIS

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  1. fyodor

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    KALYAN: Two of the four Kalyan youths suspected to have joined the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) called up their families earlier this week and confirmed they were working as members of the militant Sunni Islamist group in the Raqqa province of Syria, investigating officials said.

    Aarif Majid and Saleem Tanki, the two youths who spoke to their families, told them they were safe and that their entire family would go to 'jannat' or heaven because of the 'work' they were doing as part of ISIS, the officials said.

    Aarif and Saleem said that the other two youths from Kalyan who had gone missing, Aman Tandel and Fahad Shaikh, were also with ISIS and safe. All four were living separately in two groups in the same province, they said.

    Though Aarif's family denied such a call and Saleem's family was unavailable for comment, sources said both had shared details with the anti-terrorism squad and National Investigation Agency.

    2 missing Kalyan youths call up families, confirm they're fighting for ISIS in Syria - The Times of India
     
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    How.many Indians have confirmed their presence with ISIS sofar?
     
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    how they were radicalised

    businessman, Adil Dolare, reportedly worked for a religious institution named the Islamic Guidance Centre in Kalyan in Thane district. Dolare would reportedly meet the four men every evening. The 35-year-old businessman who runs a private enterprise in Navi Mumbai often gave talks on Islam.

    ATS seized pen drives and laptops from the houses of the four missing Kalyan youth to look into any possible connections with terror organisations.

    “While there may have been cases of youth crossing India’s borders to fight a global war earlier, this is the first time that we have a proper record. We need to build on inputs to now look into how they were reached and indocrinated, and how their travel was funded. They were moved between countries before being sent to Iraq, and they appear to have been in touch with people outside India for over eight months,” a report in the Indian Express quotes a senior ATS officer as saying.

    The New York Times reports: "On Twitter, ISIS has hijacked World Cup hashtags, flooding unsuspecting soccer fans with its propaganda screeds. It has used Facebook as a death-threat generator; the text-sharing app JustPaste to upload book-length tirades; the app SoundCloud for jihadi music; and YouTube and Twitter for videos to terrify its enemies."
     
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    Who knows how many of such men are their? Number might might well be hundreds if not thousands.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I am sure Kamal Farooqi will say this is not true and the Muslims are being targeted in the same way he said Bhatkal, the confirmed terrorist, was being defended by him.
     
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    That will be difficult to disclose since the Govt will claim it can cause communal disharmony.

    That is just the way ostriches get eaten!

    The Sunnis, notwithstanding, appear to be daft.

    Caliphate!

    What total bogus an idea.

    They will be bombed out of existence by those who find the idea as idiotic.

    Or maybe people will laugh into their sleeve and enjoy Muslims kill Muslim in consonance to their historical power struggle between the Sunnis and the Shias (that has little to do with religion) and finally decimate themselves from the face of the earth.
     
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    Aah! Good old noble jihad.
     
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    why dont they go to palestine and fight against a strong enemy?
    they would instead go fight against weak govt in iraq.
    is this what islam teaches you? kill the weak and lick the strong?
     
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    Under Passport act, they're eligible to be denied reentry into India.
     
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    25 crore.:rofl::laugh::lol:
     
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    It should be the job of India's anti terror forces to move to get their passports cancelled and deny them entry into the country.
     
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    India shaken by case of Muslim men missing in Iraq - The Times of India

    KALYAN, India: For more than a decade, as alienated young Muslim men from all over the world left home to fight on the side of Islamists in distant conflicts, it has been a truism that they were not coming from India, a country whose participatory politics and preoccupation with nearby enemies seemed to make it an exception.

    That theory has been shaken this summer by an unusual case.

    Four young men from this city on the outskirts of Mumbai — well-educated children of a rising middle class — disappeared from their homes with no warning in late May, leaving behind a note about fighting to defend Islam. Investigators traced them to Mosul and have said they were recruited over the internet by the Islamic State — a process that, while relatively well-known in the West, has not been documented in India.

    The case, though still viewed as an aberration, has opened up the unsettling possibility that Indian Muslims could be vulnerable for recruitment into sectarian conflicts in the Middle East via the internet. Authorities in the regions of Kashmir and Tamil Nadu have taken notice of youths displaying Islamic State banners and insignia in recent days, and on Sunday they detained a young man for questioning over a social media posting showing a large group of Indian Muslims in Islamic State T-shirts.

    In a country that is home to the world's second-largest Muslim population, and that has long struggled with low-level domestic terrorism, the possibility of a returning flow of well-trained jihadis is a chilling prospect.

    "This came as a shock to all of us, this incident," said Deven Bharti, a senior official in the Mumbai police department. "Trying to join the global war, it is quite a new thing."

    Concerned that the Kalyan cases might not be unique, Bharti said that "as a precautionary measure, we have asked all functioning units to look at missing boys."

    Bharti, who led the investigation into the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks, has spent years tracking the region's homegrown terrorists and is familiar with the path they typically take: Spurred by grievances toward India's Hindu majority, they cross to Pakistan for training, then return to India as part of a terrorist cell or volunteer to fight in the disputed territory of Kashmir.

    The four men who vanished from their homes on May 24, however, did not fit that pattern.

    Brought up in middle-class enclaves — the kind with gates marked "Salesmen, Beggars Not Allowed" — three of the four men had received training as engineers, a credential that epitomizes success in India.

    In their neighborhoods, conservative Islam commingles with economic aspiration, as women in black veils, or niqabs, squeeze by a school bus headed to "Old Boy's Association English High School." The young in Kalyan are increasingly conservative, said Iftekhar Khan, whose nephew, Fahad Tanvir Sheikh, 24, was one of the young men who disappeared.

    Khan said his nephew had refused to allow a television in the family's home and made it a practice to confront young men and women if he spotted them chatting in public. Sheikh also refused to vote in Indian elections, saying they were forbidden by Islam, and nagged his uncle - who is a local elected official — for trimming his beard.

    "The new generation is educated," Khan said. "Unlike our generation, they understand the concept of Islam and are against sinning."

    Another difference, he said, is that they focus less on grievances toward India's government and more on Islamic struggles in the Middle East.

    Asked about the Islamic State, Khan said the group had been improperly labeled terrorist. "It's the same people who ruled with Saddam Hussein that America pushed aside to create their puppet government," he said. "Now that America is going out, Saddam's old force are fighting for governance in their own land."

    On the afternoon of May 24, Sheikh spent the afternoon playing cricket. Then he showered, changed and left the house, telling his family he had work to do, Khan said.

    The same thing happened in three other households: Arif Majeed, 22, the son of a doctor, told his family he was going to study. Aman Tandel, 20, said he was going out to eat dinner. Shaheen Farooqui Tanki, 26, left without saying anything.

    The men next contacted their families a few days later from Baghdad, where they had traveled as part of a religious tour group. Six days later, they broke off from the group and never returned. Alarmed, Majeed's father filed a missing-person report with the police. In a letter left behind for his family, one of the men asked for forgiveness and said he would next see them in heaven.

    "It is a blessed journey for me, because I don't want to live in this sinful country," he said.

    The letter urged the family to follow the precepts of Salafism, an ultraconservative form of Sunni Islam. Like other relatives interviewed, Khan said he was skeptical that the men intended to fight.

    The events set in motion an intense investigation. Officials have been searching for one or more people who may have steered the men toward the Islamic State before their departure, but believe that much of the recruitment took place online, based on their digital footprint.

    Thomas F Lynch III, a specialist in Islamic terrorism at the National Defense University in Washington, said that "there is no credible reporting I'm aware of in over a decade" that Indian Muslims had become involved in jihadi activities.

    The development could prove to be a watershed "at both international and Indian levels," he added, because Indian Muslims "have been enraged by local grievances but have not so much bought into the idea of worldwide oppression against Muslims."

    The Islamic State, however, is making an effort to recruit a broader range of Muslims than its predecessors. Other Salafist movements, like al-Qaida, avoided doing that, for fear of aggravating the subcontinent's giant Hindu population or provoking a harsh government reaction, he said, but the newcomer is far less cautious.

    "They have to take a lot more risk, they have to be a lot more flashy, and they have to cast a wider net," Lynch said.

    In interviews, some law enforcement officials shrugged off the notion that India's Muslims could be drawn into sectarian conflicts, for the same reasons they have not to date: because India's Muslims have access to political power and are well-assimilated, thinking themselves first and foremost as Indians.

    "Whatever the grievances, they can always be sorted out through a legal process," said Anil Kumbhare, deputy commissioner of police at the special branch in Thane. "It will never happen in India. It has become the DNA of the nation, democracy."

    But in Borivali-Padgha, a quiet village an hour's drive from Kalyan that is known as a hub of ultraconservative Islam, no one shrugged off the threat. Since the four men disappeared, residents there said, investigators from the Anti-Terrorism Squad have been combing the neighborhood, looking for anyone who may have had contact with them.

    Each surge in police pressure deepens the sense of resentment among young Muslims, said Saleem Yusuf Shaikh, 40, the vice principal of a school in a nearby city, who began to weep discussing the fighting in the Gaza Strip. He said he urged his students to read India's constitution for reassurance that their rights would be protected.

    "If I had not read the constitution and understood India's secular tradition, I could also have become a victim of terrorism," he said. "It's very easy, until you feel that you are getting justice and are secure, you will try to go to the other side. But by the time you realize you want to come back, it gets too late."
     
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    Indian youth from Kalyan who joined ISIS killed in clashes in Syria - The Times of India

    KALYAN: Aarib Majid, one of four boys from Kalyan who had gone to Iraq and joined ISIS, has been killed in clashes in Syria.

    Sahim Tanki, who had also gone to Iraq with Aarib Majid, on Tuesday called up his family informing them that their associate Majid had died in clashes and asked his family to inform Majid's relatives.

    Majid was a third year engineering student from Kalsekar college in Navi Mumbai. He was son of doctor Ejaz Majid, a local physician in Kalyan.

    Ejaz's family was unavailable for comments but their relatives confirmed about Tanki's call.

    However, they could not confirm how Majid died.

    Majid, Tanki, along with Fahad Shaikh and Aman Tandel left India on June 26 with some pilgrims on tour to Iraq without informing their parents.

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    Good riddance. May his soul REST IN ISLAMIC JIHADI HELL :amen:
     
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    Q is from where they are radicalised or influenced ?? Us mulle nu faru. Catch that mula
     
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    His family would now claim compensation for death, and sickular Cong-NCP govt will give it too. Just see when his death is confirmed.
     
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    All muslims are radicalised since times immemorial.
     
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    As per TOI, one died fighting in Chidiya. We must plan a Jihadi Memorial in Delhi for these Selfless fighters who do not prefer to join Indian Army but to die a miserable death as a terrorist.
     
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    I will not believe the story of their death unless their bodies are recovered. The confirmation comes from their own family. They know that incase their sons return they will be captured by ATS. It might be decoy so that IB will stop tracing them.
     

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