13 out of world's top 20 polluted cities in India, only three in China

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We are the ones who sacrificed most in this war on terrorism and still doing military operation against them and we will eliminate them inshallah..just ask raw to stay away from sponsoring these terrorists...

why you always divert the topic with irrelevant post?
Really, didn't you feel like laughing when you typed this ?
 

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India may be lagging behind China on several economic indicators but when it comes to environmental degradation, the country has definitely outsmarted its giant neighbour.

Of the world’s top 20 polluted cities, 13 are in India compared to just three in China. Air pollution slashes life expectancy by 3.2 years for the 660 million Indians who live in cities, including Delhi. In China, the corresponding dip is marginally lower at three years.

The Ganga and Yamuna are ranked among the world’s 10 most polluted rivers. China has just one. An evaluation in February ranked Vapi in Gujarat and Sukinda in Odisha among the 10 most environmentally-degraded zones in the world. China had no entries on the list.

The two nations have seen furious economic growth in the past decade fuelling a rapid rise in pollution. China leads the world in carbon emissions and India is in third position. But one important difference between the two emerging economies lies in China’s ability to manage the impact of breakneck economic growth on its environment much better than India. The effect of China’s success is most visible in its air and water, both of which have a direct bearing on public health.

Both countries were saddled with almost identical environmental concerns a decade ago, but China cleaned many of its polluted rivers and managed to check the spiralling urban air pollution through stringent rules.

The results are showing. “Beijing's air pollution has dipped 40% since 2000 as we have taken steps to phase out polluting vehicles and put checks on building heating systems,” said Beijing municipal officer Li Kunsheng at an event in Delhi earlier this year.

In contrast, Delhi’s air pollution has steadily climbed by 20% in the same period with successive governments reluctant to act. The story is the same in cities across the country. Coimbatore is the only exception as the air there was found to be fit for breathing.

The impact of rising toxins in the air is clearly visible on an average Indian's life, as proved by a Lancet study in 2012 that ranked air pollution as the sixth biggest killer with an annual estimated toll of 66 million.

A 2015 report by the Centre for Science and Environment, a Delhi-based NGO, says the decline in the country's overall environmental standards was because of river pollution, which is worse now than it was three decades ago, piling garbage in cities and increasingly toxic urban air.

"In India, environment degradation is a runaway problem impinging on public health an exacerbating poverty," says Sunita Narain, the NGO's director general. “We need to act and act fast ... otherwise the health cost would be enormous,” she added.

A three-year analysis of the water quality in 290 rivers by the Central Pollution Control Board said about 66% of the stretches monitored had high organic pollution. It means 8,400 km of these rivers are badly polluted and not fit for supporting aquatic life. "Increasing flow of untreated waste water from cities into these rivers is the reason for our rivers getting polluted," says Shashi Shekhar, CPCB chairman and special secretary in the environment ministry.

But not all news is bad with innovative green initiatives sprouting all over the country. The bicycling clubs in Bengaluru act as one of the biggest networks of bikers in the country, a group of people have generated organic fertilizer from waste in Kolkata and Bungroo and a programme of the Gujarat Ecological Commission has turned wasteland into a good agri-production zone.

And then, there are a new band of young environment activists such as Ritwick Dutta who took authorities to court for violating environmental laws and protect people's right to a clean environment. As a result, the National Green Tribunal has compensated locals for pollution and one such case is in Tamil Nadu.

Union environment minister Prakash Javadekar is also hopeful of people's participation pushing governments to improve the environment, saying a policy of "development without destruction" is in place.

In the coming years, his ministry plans to introduce a new environmental regime that will focus on "self-regulation" and strengthen the "polluter-pay principle" with higher penalties for violation of environmental laws.



http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...but-there-is-still-hope/article1-1355013.aspx
So the world is concerned about the well-being of indian and Chinese cities. Because we are the future. No one cared about Pakistani cities, whether they existed or existing or will exist. Simple, no one gave a damn about your cities and how they are. How does that feel...?
 

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You have not been to India. Come visit India and then make such ill informed comments.
Ok, I have visited Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok. I guess Indian big cities are closer to Bangkok.
 

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We are the ones who sacrificed most in this war on terrorism and still doing military operation against them and we will eliminate them inshallah..just ask raw to stay away from sponsoring these terrorists...

why you always divert the topic with irrelevant post?
Get out of the so called "victimhood" you are trying to portray and asking for sympathy.

You are the one who created Terrorists and they are after your ass and butchering your children.

Allah is angry with Un-Islamic Pakis and giving punishment.You wanted to give us 1000 cuts and instead got same on you and bleeding.So stop crying and stop Terrorism or else you would be broken in few more pieces.Just ask Army/ISI to stop doing Un-Islamic Terrorism and Pakistan would progress slowly.Even if you take decision today it would take 10 years to see results since Terrorism has gone inside your bone marrow.

Your Army/ISI has given you nothing but insults,humiliation and division of Pakistan and a Terrorist tag on your forehead.

Also...don't talk about derailing the topic since you are doing it in all threads where you are cornered and left with no reply.
 

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I beg to differ you r the ones who created it. Now it has gone out of control its ur fault . Stop playing victim card
Out of control. If you created or have been supporting something then it should not go against you. Should it? They did not listen to our delegation.Pakistan just like USA supported Taliban during soviet war to end communist expansion

They were pro Pakistani thats why Pakistan supported them when they took control of Afghanistan. Talibans had no involvement with terrorism back then as they were even freedom fighter for USA. Its after 9/11 when they associated themselves with al qaida and gave them protection and refused to hand over osma created problems for them.
 

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Really, didn't you feel like laughing when you typed this ?
I know they dont tell you anything in India beside 26/11 and 9/11 and their victims. Terrorist attacks staged in Pakistan have killed over 35,000 people, 5,000 of which are law enforcement personnel and caused material damage to the Pakistan Economy totalling US$67 billion by the IMF and the World Bank.
 

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Out of control. If you created or have been supporting something then it should not go against you. Should it? They did not listen to our delegation.Pakistan just like USA supported Taliban during soviet war to end communist expansion

They were pro Pakistani thats why Pakistan supported them when they took control of Afghanistan. Talibans had no involvement with terrorism back then as they were even freedom fighter for USA. Its after 9/11 when they associated themselves with al qaida and gave them protection and refused to hand over osma created problems for them.
You gave recognition to Terrorist Organization called Taliban.

You sheltered Osama for such a long time and denied his existence like a pathological liar.

Pakistan has no credibility.

Pakistan is a PROVEN TERRORIST STATE.

 

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back to topic on original OP....

i guess we will have to bear with this pollution nonsense articles till the paris climate meet.
 

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Now coming back to topic of this thread and solution to stem the growth of pollution, I would propose the following steps:

1. Governments in the region should form a joint working group to set the quarterly goals to reduce
dependence on cooking fuel.
2. The countries should move away from thermal plants to non polluting generation plants.
3. Since majority of population lives in villages, we should source the cheapest way to provide power
generation at local level by using solar cells.
4. We should source the cheapest non polluting fuel and technology for the cooking since the present cow
dung and woods used are the one of the biggest contributor of pollution.
5. I would suggest the forum members to form a open source on this forum to share their ideas with
Governments of the region.

Let us focus on bringing positive change for the region. Best of luck.
You seem sensible poster. Its quiet strange that those people who contribute in constructive debate get no "like" while one lines hater and off topic trolls getting all attention. We know its quiet hard to control pollution in developing countries with this huge population and increasing demand of industrialization and big cities of Bangladesh and Pakistan have very much same problems as you see pollution in air, land and water.First thing is to change this attitude towards pollution whether indoor or outdoor..look at this map to see how condition is worse




Here is China vs India as they are two most populated countries


http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/02/india-v-china




AIR pollution in India and China is already a great threat to human health. By one estimate, northern Chinese lives are 5.5 years shorter than they should be, all because of foul air. The lives of nearly 700m Indians would, on average, be over three years longer if national standards for air quality were met. One big problem is indoors: particles from smoke from dung or wood fires, or from paraffin stoves and lamps. In India indoor air pollution is thought to cause 1m deaths a year. But the fastest growing threat is outdoor air pollution, especially in cities. Air pollution is caused by traffic fumes, industrial emissions, construction dust, burning rubbish and more. It is thought already to kill nearly 700,000 Indians a year, and that toll is likely to rise sharply in the coming decades.

India's poor fuel standards, poor-quality vehicles and badly planned cities help to explain why so many of its cities are choked with awful air. Even China, notorious for problems with smog and pollution, appears better off than India. Michael Greenstone of Chicago University points out that far more cities in India (with Delhi the worst, by far) endure very high average levels of small particulate matter known as PM2.5. This is particularly deadly, as particles settle deep in the lungs, causing cancer, heart attacks and strokes. Air pollution affects not just the big cities. Much of northern India along the Gangetic plain is draped in smoggy air for large parts of the year. This is also bad for crops. One study of wheat yields in India, from 1980 to 2010, suggests these are one-third lower than they should be because of high exposure to ozone and other air pollution.
 

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You gave recognition to Terrorist Organization called Taliban.

You sheltered Osama for such a long time and denied his existence like a pathological liar.
Give some rest to this non sense. You get orgasm over Osama and veena as bring them in every topic lol
Osama was in Afghanistan and he got hidden in Pakistan after this military invasion of US/NATO in Afghanistan. Now don't derail this topic further and have some constructive debate instead of posting irrelevant non sense. Topic is about pollution and you are polluting this topic
 

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Give some rest to this non sense. You get orgasm over Osama and veena as bring them in every topic lol

Osama was in Afghanistan and he got hidden in Pakistan after this military invasion of US/NATO in Afghanistan. Now don't derail this topic further and have some constructive debate instead of posting irrelevant non sense.

Topic is about pollution and you are polluting this topic
You are uttering non-sense in all threads.

You knew where Osama was and actually Pak Army was protecting Osama until US came and raped your sovereignty.You got proved to be a Terrorist State and no one believe you.

Pakistan is a Terrorist State and Veena Malik is a sexy Islamic Paki girl.
 

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Ok, I have visited Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok. I guess Indian big cities are closer to Bangkok.
India is not just about big cities, come and spend some time in India, I will be your guide.
 

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You seem sensible poster. Its quiet strange that those people who contribute in constructive debate get no "like" while one lines hater and off topic trolls getting all attention. We know its quiet hard to control pollution in developing countries with this huge population and increasing demand of industrialization and big cities of Bangladesh and Pakistan have very much same problems as you see pollution in air, land and water.First thing is to change this attitude towards pollution whether indoor or outdoor..look at this map to see how condition is worse




Here is China vs India as they are two most populated countries


http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/02/india-v-china




AIR pollution in India and China is already a great threat to human health. By one estimate, northern Chinese lives are 5.5 years shorter than they should be, all because of foul air. The lives of nearly 700m Indians would, on average, be over three years longer if national standards for air quality were met. One big problem is indoors: particles from smoke from dung or wood fires, or from paraffin stoves and lamps. In India indoor air pollution is thought to cause 1m deaths a year. But the fastest growing threat is outdoor air pollution, especially in cities. Air pollution is caused by traffic fumes, industrial emissions, construction dust, burning rubbish and more. It is thought already to kill nearly 700,000 Indians a year, and that toll is likely to rise sharply in the coming decades.

India's poor fuel standards, poor-quality vehicles and badly planned cities help to explain why so many of its cities are choked with awful air. Even China, notorious for problems with smog and pollution, appears better off than India. Michael Greenstone of Chicago University points out that far more cities in India (with Delhi the worst, by far) endure very high average levels of small particulate matter known as PM2.5. This is particularly deadly, as particles settle deep in the lungs, causing cancer, heart attacks and strokes. Air pollution affects not just the big cities. Much of northern India along the Gangetic plain is draped in smoggy air for large parts of the year. This is also bad for crops. One study of wheat yields in India, from 1980 to 2010, suggests these are one-third lower than they should be because of high exposure to ozone and other air pollution.
What is the source of this article. Please post a link.
 

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Out of control. If you created or have been supporting something then it should not go against you. Should it? They did not listen to our delegation.Pakistan just like USA supported Taliban during soviet war to end communist expansion

They were pro Pakistani thats why Pakistan supported them when they took control of Afghanistan. Talibans had no involvement with terrorism back then as they were even freedom fighter for USA. Its after 9/11 when they associated themselves with al qaida and gave them protection and refused to hand over osma created problems for them.

u forgot that, after afghan jihad ended. ur phu-pha hamid gul who is enjoying 72 camel in hell ,used them for Kashmir jihad for 25 yrs.its there, u gave them excessive power and money ,when u try to control them they gone out of hand,
 
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@Raja.pakistani

Thank you for your kind words. The best thing at this time on this forum for you is either to ignore non topic related response or develop a thick skin.

We had the pollution problems in North America such as acid rain due to coal fired power plants which was killing the fresh water source from our lakes in Canada and in New York state there was incident of Love Canal. The entire population from that area had to be relocated. Now a days oil extraction from sand is a source of pollution and burning of oil flares is creating health problems for people living near those projects due to presence of hydrogen sulfide in the air.

The level of pollution has come down after we moved from coal fired to gas fired power plants. In Ontario fro example we have shut down all the coal fired plants and eliminated the acid rain issues. The reduction in manufacturing plants in USA and Canada helped us reduce the pollution of water source as well. Most of the heavy carcinogenic containing chemicals have become the headache for China and Mexico where the enforcement of the laws is rare thus these two countries are in a jam. It has been reported that up to 70 percent of China's lake are polluted beyond any chance of solving the issue.

In South Asia corridor we have to change the method of construction in the villages where most of the pollution causing fuels are used. We also have to introduce solar powered stoves and natural gas based as well.

GOI is in process of fighting pollution at all levels. one can read about the initiatives on GOI web sites. Our new PM is hands on and reviews the progress of all the major projects himself. One example is the railway stations have clean and dust bins placed on the platform. The tracks have deployed heavy vacuum system to keep them free of debris and other natural accidents. In future they have plans to introduce the toilet systems as found in Airplanes.
We have a PM who is continuously thinking of improving the delivery of service to his citizens. As a CM of Gujrat he had a solar power generation system installed on a canal to save water from evaporation and generate power as well.
 
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Wondering why @Raja.pakistani repeatedly puts China alongside India in "Air Pollution Level" comparison??!! Just becoz the 2 are both populous?

Your post is ignorant to state
AIR pollution in India and China is already a great threat to human health
Better to take China out of your meter.

Here cometh Chinese life expectancy under the "health threat" vs. Indian among others -






See China is way above India, Russia and the world average (I bet Pakistan included), despite the "foul air".

By one estimate, northern Chinese lives are 5.5 years shorter than they should be, all because of foul air.
So how long would u expect Chinese to live plus the 5.5years?? We're already close to US of America and Europe! We said byebye to India in 1965 so why don't u grow some common sense and measure some others more in the league of India?:shoot:
 

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