11 Armymen killed in ambush in Manipur, 16 injured. Terrorists ambushed with RPGs and assault fire.

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Please tell us how the Anglican Church intruded expanded and managed their affairs. The missionary there were and continue to be foreigners. Chirstian Teachers, nurses and church staff in majority are from Kerala.
Christianity was not introduced in NE post 1947, Christianity had already expanded it's roots in the region under British protection.

If you wish to know how Christianity managed to expand in such hostile territories, you must read the case study of South America where Bible was shoved down the throats of the Cannibalistic Tribes. It was done in two phases, methods adopted in first phase were extremely brutal, there is a word for it: Cultural Genocide. Interesting read indeed.
 

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Rest In Peace ..

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There is nothing that patrol could have done, They were attacked via rockets from all directions ..



Still the rest of the men held on and fought against an enemy well entrenched and well armed to the teeth, That is a remarkable sprite of Indian Army Soldiers ..
 
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Not too long ago these items were caught before they get to NE terror groups. This include HMGs and RPGs with ammunition and IED explosives & Motars both in 81mm and 51mm ..

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Is it possible to know the manufacturer of these stuff?
 

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I think its well known fact that Chinase arms and training instructor were always present in NE terror camps, But the main issue is with the regional politician and regional religious elements which are funding them in large, This has to be go ..

If it is Chinese made, may be India should raise this issue with the Chinese.
 

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I think its well known fact that Chinase arms and training instructor were always present in NE terror camps, But the main issue is with the regional politician and regional religious elements which are funding them in large, This has to be go ..
Yes the religious politico nexus in NE is really tough nut to crack. It is big enough now to self sustain itself through criminal activities and extortion.
 

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Don't you think army should use bmp and btr in these conflict area or they are also useless against rockets
 

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I remember there was an interview of a man who was training CRPF personnel for combat against the Maoists. There, the trainer said that a lot depends upon who sees whom first. If the ultras see a CRPF patrol party first and open fire first, there will be casualties on the CRPF side. Similarly, with RPG fire, the unfortunate soldiers had little choice. I wonder how such weapons make their way into the country. On the other hand, IIRC yesterday, I saw BBC run a report on widows of Manipur. I won't bother posting the link here. Looks like a concerted effort is being made to weaken India and justify these deaths. I hope the government gives an appropriate response.
 

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I remember there was an interview of a man who was training CRPF personnel for combat against the Maoists. There, the trainer said that a lot depends upon who sees whom first. If the ultras see a CRPF patrol party first and open fire first, there will be casualties on the CRPF side. Similarly, with RPG fire, the unfortunate soldiers had little choice. I wonder how such weapons make their way into the country. On the other hand, IIRC yesterday, I saw BBC run a report on widows of Manipur. I won't bother posting the link here. Looks like a concerted effort is being made to weaken India and justify these deaths. I hope the government gives an appropriate response.
What kind of response does government of india will give to BBC?
I don't see anything happening....
 

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What kind of response does government of india will give to BBC?
I don't see anything happening....
Sorry, my post was ambiguous. I meant to say the government should give a good response to the ultras who carried out the ambush.
 

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Modi’s task force wants Army out of counter-insurgency duties in North East

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s high-level Task Force on the North-East wants the army to be pulled out of counter-insurgency duties in Manipur and Nagaland, and re-deployed east to guard the porous border with Myanmar, government sources said.

The task force will recommend that police in the troubled states be given the lead role in counter-insurgency operations, sources told The Indian Express.

Led by RN Ravi, chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee and the PM’s envoy for peace talks with Nagaland insurgents, the task force’s recommendations were finalised last month, and are due to be formally presented to Modi this month.

The task force’s radical recommendations are significant in the context of Thursday’s ambush in Manipur, which claimed the lives of 18 soldiers. The ambush is thought to have been carried out by the National Socialist Council of Nagaland’s SS Khaplang-led faction (NSCN-K), operating from bases across the border in Myanmar’s Trang area.

“For years now, the Khaplang group has been raising funds by providing training and logistics to insurgent groups like Paresh Barua’s United Liberation Front of Assam, the National Democratic Front of Bodoland, People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak and the Kangleipak Communist Party,” an official involved in preparing the report said.

“It is imperative that what is now a completely un-policed border be sealed if the insurgencies in Nagaland and Manipur are to be contained,” he said.


Key to the plan is reaching a deal that would give Naga tribes living inside Manipur special rights, without changing existing state boundaries.

Though the plan has the backing of the NSCN’s Isak Chishi Swu and Thuingaleng Muivah-led mainstream group, which already runs a proto-state in large swathes of Nagaland, it raised the prospect of marginalisation for Khaplang.

Khaplang, a Myanmar citizen who reached a peace deal with that country’s military in 2012 and then withdrew from a ceasefire with India, now mainly operates from across the border.

“He has realised there’s nothing much for him if a peace deal works out and thinks that by playing spoiler, he can enhance earnings as a provider of services to other North-East insurgents, as well as from extortion,” said an Indian intelligence official.

According to government officials, the success of the new task force plan will depend New Delhi’s ability to breathe life into the state police force.

In 1997, when the NSCN Isak-Muviah entered into a ceasefire government of India, the task of maintaining peace was given to the Assam Rifles – India’s oldest paramilitary force, officered by the army. The arrangement continued on from 2000, when the NSCN Khaplang faction also joined in the ceasefire.

The Nagaland Police, which had until then played a key role in counter-insurgency operations, receded into a background role. Thousands of its personnel were moved out of the state, providing back-up to police forces in cities like New Delhi, and even joining in counter-Maoist operations.

But in the years since, the 10,135-strong Nagaland Police – at 446 for every 100,000 residents, India’s largest in population-adjusted terms – has faced serious allegations of corruption.

In 2012, for example, an internal investigation found police personnel had sold off almost 100 rifles and carbines, along with over 100,000 rounds of ammunition, on the local black market.

In addition, the force is beset by shortages of top police leadership – a consequence of large numbers of young IPS officers leaving the state on central deputation, citing tough living conditions.

L L Doungel, the Director-General of Police, is a 1987 batch West Bengal cadre officer, serving on deputation to his home state. His deputy, Additional Director-General of Police Rupin Sharma, is a Madhya Pradesh cadre officer.

“The senior-most IPS cadre officer from outside the state is from the 1998 batch. New Delhi is going to have to find a way of making the cadre functional again if this plan is going to work,” said a senior state police officer.

Source : http://indianexpress.com/article/in...of-counter-insurgency-duties-in-north-east/2/
 

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Looks like solution to the problem lies in Burma as per media reports, any clue on what Burmese are saying on this issue?
 

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Looks like solution to the problem lies in Burma as per media reports, any clue on what Burmese are saying on this issue?
According to my estimation burma ( mayanmar) is a puppet in hands of china...do you think india and burma had any kinds of conflicts with each other ?...by keeping N.E unstable is only benifit to a retard who is popular among us for his wicked activities....they are playing with innocent people who no world other than their forest. .
 

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According to my estimation burma ( mayanmar) is a puppet in hands of china...do you think india and burma had any kinds of conflicts with each other ?...by keeping N.E unstable is only benifit to a retard who is popular among us for his wicked activities....they are playing with innocent people who no world other than their forest. .
Not necessarily Burma as a country is helping these guys out, but definitely some elements there.

But must say that 2015 is definitely an interesting year since all old flames are restarted. Even khalistani idiots are being activated in Punjab.
 

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Not necessarily Burma as a country is helping these guys out, but definitely some elements there.

But must say that 2015 is definitely an interesting year since all old flames are restarted. Even khalistani idiots are being activated in Punjab.
It's ISI's and MSS's work. No doubt!
 

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