10 Strongest Air Forces of the World

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a lot more air defence networks to defend itself, sams, patriots, aegies or other destroyers capable of shooting down anything in the sky including icbm, all weather long range attack cruise missilse eg tom, advanced stealth subs to wipe off chinese navy fleet and prevent chinese ships from approaching near the jp territory, more land attack missiles to keep millions of chinese troops at bay, [dirtymodeon] chemical weapons and cluster bombs [/dirtymodeoff]
How long do you think Japan can have all those capacity?

never heard about chinese declaration of war on its neighbours especially on japan.
How many time China will give Japan to prepare after declaration of war?


as of today, china does not even have ssbn which the western nations have been operating since many decades ago.
How do you know that? You know the spec of Chinese nuclear sub?


agree, but bare in mind that nato can deploy about 15 aircraft carriers with around 1400 jets on board if necessary. each carrier will be escorted by at least 8 to 10 support ships including subs, destroyers, frigates, supply/tanker ships. its obvious you have the upper hand due to proximity, but it does not mean anything if you can't dominate the battlefield.
You can check how many fighter jets China have and how many ACs America can deployed at one time.


i do not wish to go into details, but, as you know the west like to keep its factories in china due to it's workforce, ridiculously cheap labour cost and higher productivity rate.
So? What are you trying to say?
 
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please make another thread to continue the discussion. we've gone too far with irrelevant and off topic posts, and this behaviour can be considered trolling lol.
 

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I wanted to ask if for you the only possible outcome with Pakistan is war, since from your posts it sounds like a fact.

Or it is "Si vis pacem, para bellum"?
Think of it this way. They are not interested in peace.

The only reason why we aren't at war today is because they haven't yet attacked us directly.

Not the case with the Chinese. Saner minds run China.
 

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What makes you think China is not ready?
Your military is modernizing too, same as ours. And you have bigger headaches in dealing with your western coast, than dealing with your south borders. Just like how we aren't ready for a two front war, you aren't ready for a two front war either.

In India, we are building new assets particularly aiming for a two front war, both the army and the air force. Meaning, we have 8 corps against Pak and are only now building up three corps against you. While your army is already bigger, you aren't in a position to move the bulk of your troops away from the east coast against us. Then there is the hassle of moving troops and equipment in the Himalayas. Basically, neither country is in a position that allows victory, and a stalemate is pretty much useless for China.
 

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i would downgrade israel and UK few spots and upgrade japan air force few spots
 

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Your military is modernizing too, same as ours. And you have bigger headaches in dealing with your western coast, than dealing with your south borders. Just like how we aren't ready for a two front war, you aren't ready for a two front war either.

In India, we are building new assets particularly aiming for a two front war, both the army and the air force. Meaning, we have 8 corps against Pak and are only now building up three corps against you. While your army is already bigger, you aren't in a position to move the bulk of your troops away from the east coast against us. Then there is the hassle of moving troops and equipment in the Himalayas. Basically, neither country is in a position that allows victory, and a stalemate is pretty much useless for China.
Well, there will be not a two fronts war for China.

Dominating South Pacific is our short-term goal and South Asia is our long term goal.

I don't think India will attack China first in the foreseeable future, and China will not attack India until our meet our short-term goal.
 

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Well, there will be not a two fronts war for China.

Dominating South Pacific is our short-term goal and South Asia is our long term goal.

I don't think India will attack China first in the foreseeable future, and China will not attack India until our meet our short-term goal.
If you want to attack India, the right time is now. Our armed forces are at their weakest now and 5-10 years down the line you will have very little chance of winning.
 

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If you want to attack India, the right time is now. Our armed forces are at their weakest now and 5-10 years down the line you will have very little chance of winning.
always thought china and india were good friends if not allies. doubt these countries would join russia if it went to war against nato for instance.
 

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always thought china and india were good friends if not allies. doubt these countries would join russia if it went to war against nato for instance.
We are neighbors with border disputes and China has expansionist tendencies, they claim our Arunachal Pradesh as their land. If China really thinks that they can win decisively against India without any aftermaths like international pressure/sanctions they will attack tomorrow but sadly for them the treacherous mountain means the aggressor needs overwhelming numerical superiority and without out it the end result is stalemate.

In case of hypothetical war between Russia and NATO India's stance will be mainly neutral. Do you really think West will go to war with Russia over Ukraine?
 

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If you want to attack India, the right time is now. Our armed forces are at their weakest now and 5-10 years down the line you will have very little chance of winning.
1.India is big country but weak and not a big threat to China as long as Aksai Chin and Tibet is still controlled by China.
2.On the other hand, the threat at West Pacific is much larger and immediate. So , we have to deal with it first.
3.Now is 52nd year after 1962, do you think the gap between China and India is bigger or smaller? We can give you 5-10 years more, but the gap between us will keep growing.( Does India's growth rate ever surpass China?)
4. Base on the above, India and China is not immediate threat to each other. So, India and China is still have some space to cooperate for now.
5. As for long-term, we like your location in Indian Ocean....
 
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In case of hypothetical war between Russia and NATO India's stance will be mainly neutral. Do you really think West will go to war with Russia over Ukraine?
nato would have already declared war on russia if ukraine was one of nato countries. since it is not, there's not much we can do, plus most of the polls suggested that it's their own internal problems. not worth risking the lives and wasting resources. please stay on topic. what's the top 10 air force and why?
 
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I would say that Finland is close to top ten also. We have only 20 F-18's fewer than Australia. In the top of international fighter aces we are second after Germany. Considering the size of our "ilmavoimat" that is quite an achievement.

List of World War II flying aces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Luettelo suomalaisista hävittäjä-ässistä – Wikipedia


Also our doctrine emphasize using common road airstrips at crisis, do not know if other countries do the same. In the latest exercises at Netherlands Finnish pilots had 16:1 kill ratio. We should be able to down 1040 Russian planes, before running out of planes.



[video]https://m.youtube.com/?gl=DE&hl=de#/watch?v=bNuVCvIGKxE[/video]
 
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Sorry to say

a Decent Air force Need Good Number of Fighters Ground Attackers Multirole Jets with Good AEWCS Aerial Tanker and Good Number of Both Strategic and Small Air lifters

only Some Hornets not makes a Country in Top ten list
 
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1.India is big country but weak and not a big threat to China as long as Aksai Chin and Tibet is still controlled by China.
2.On the other hand, the threat at West Pacific is much larger and immediate. So , we have to deal with it first.
3.Now is 52nd year after 1962, do you think the gap between China and India is bigger or smaller? We can give you 5-10 years more, but the gap between us will keep growing.( Does India's growth rate ever surpass China?)
4. Base on the above, India and China is not immediate threat to each other. So, India and China is still have some space to cooperate for now.
5. As for long-term, we like your location in Indian Ocean....
I've been trying to explain this to you for a long time.
India is actually weaker than china. But the question is how much weaker???
Do you know how much china will lost from a war with India??
Weaker and powerful doesn't matter here it's future which matters.
China will have to spend a few trillion dollars to wage a war against India.
Which means bye bye good growth figures for both the countries.
And do you think this war will end in months???
India is no threat to china and hence china will never wage a war against India because she knows the consequences will not be good for the chinese.
 

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1) USA
2) Russia
3) China
4) UK
5) Israel
6) Japan
7) France
8) Belgium
9) Saudi Arabia
10) Sweden
 

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quite, and in fact isreal can't fight outside of it's backyard. doubt it would last long if it went to war against countries like turkey, saudi arabia or even iran.
Sorry sir israil beat combined Arab air force so you can't say they are use less .israil consider its backyard are most important thing than other things .
 

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1.India is big country but weak and not a big threat to China as long as Aksai Chin and Tibet is still controlled by China.
2.On the other hand, the threat at West Pacific is much larger and immediate. So , we have to deal with it first.
3.Now is 52nd year after 1962, do you think the gap between China and India is bigger or smaller? We can give you 5-10 years more, but the gap between us will keep growing.( Does India's growth rate ever surpass China?)
4. Base on the above, India and China is not immediate threat to each other. So, India and China is still have some space to cooperate for now.
5. As for long-term, we like your location in Indian Ocean....
Sorry you will meet your short goal if you do. then you will not dominate Indian ocean because China will face its mirror statergy by India which it used against USA. History repeat its self .Rome,,Germany,ussr .all this loss there base because they look for others base and make large number of enemy who group to gather and bring then down .super power will create there own death trap
 

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