10 Soldiers Missing After Avalanche In Siachen In Ladakh

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This islamist scum uses a tragedy to drive his Paki agenda :(
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pakistan lost 143 on the spot vs our 9
it could perhaps even have been avoided if we had our detecting radar on the spot instead of being flown in a few DAYS later

im not judging tht as i dont know the circumstances as to why the radar was not already part of their standard equipment - i surmise that the system is new ?

appears we might be close to solving this difficulty and at the very least we are way ahead of pack in this matter

so that basit clown can keep his opinions to himself or his own gov .... we dont need to listen to him
and he is the same clown who deliberately met the Kashmir extremists thus engaging in activities unbecoming of an ambassador ...we dont need advice from such ...in fact if he continues to do similarly, in future, it may be suitable to ask for him to be sent back

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pakistan lost 143 on the spot vs our 9
it could perhaps even have been avoided if we had our detecting radar on the spot instead of being flown in a few DAYS later

im not judging tht as i dont know the circumstances as to why the radar was not already part of their standard equipment - i surmise that the system is new ?

appears we might be close to solving this difficulty and at the very least we are way ahead of pack in this matter

so that basit clown can keep his opinions to himself or his own gov .... we dont need to listen to him
and he is the same clown who deliberately met the Kashmir extremists thus engaging in activities unbecoming of an ambassador ...we dont need advice from such ...in fact if he continues to do similarly, in future, it may be suitable to ask for him to be sent back

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If soldiers had GPS with them...It would not take this much time .
Can some one tell me , whether GPS would work beneath snow?
 

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If soldiers had GPS with them...It would not take this much time .
Can some one tell me , whether GPS would work beneath snow?
They all have GPS but under snow the signal of Satellite is very weak ,they have radio beacon to their location plus special rope which stay above the snow or leave some colour plus dogs are trained to smell and dig the survivor out but a very quick response is must ,we very very lucky this time .They are trying to develop new technique and also predict avalanche but no luck till now plus funding is limited .
 

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They all have GPS but under snow the signal of Satellite is very weak ,they have radio beacon to their location plus special rope which stay above the snow or leave some colour plus dogs are trained to smell and dig the survivor out but a very quick response is must ,we very very lucky this time .They are trying to develop new technique and also predict avalanche but no luck till now plus funding is limited .
We must also remember that this is not the fluffy kind of snow. It would be as hard as concrete once it stops moving. It was a miracle that he survived so long.
We must actually improve upon the shelter that he was found in. If that thing kept him from being crushed for such time, it must be good!
Salute to you LNK Hanumanthappa.
 

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Govt must use drones or satellites to monitor porki army movements.If necessary shoot at sight and inform the IA.
We already use it substantially and still expanding it.
Its good that after Pathankot attack, huge budget was allocated against terrorists, forces with better equipment are slaying jihadis and our presstitute media is abandoned to report on it.
I know because I know about one of soldier. :D
2.Why can't Ind govt create avalanches as we are sitting siachen heights and kill all porkis in lower ground regularly. :p
pakis have many times blamed about DRDO KALI and other weapons create such things against them. :cruisin2:
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If soldiers had GPS with them...It would not take this much time .
Can some one tell me , whether GPS would work beneath snow?
They all have GPS but under snow the signal of Satellite is very weak ,they have radio beacon to their location plus special rope which stay above the snow or leave some colour plus dogs are trained to smell and dig the survivor out but a very quick response is must ,we very very lucky this time .They are trying to develop new technique and also predict avalanche but no luck till now plus funding is limited .
We must also remember that this is not the fluffy kind of snow. It would be as hard as concrete once it stops moving. It was a miracle that he survived so long.
We must actually improve upon the shelter that he was found in. If that thing kept him from being crushed for such time, it must be good!
Salute to you LNK Hanumanthappa.

Bro , thanks for your like ....i double-checked my post .........i did not say GPS ....

i said radar , didnt i ? .... the difference is in the application and signal strength - even though there is much in common in the principles of the science of the two

Times if india reported this fact a few days ago , that the army ( drdo ? ) has developed such a radar based detection system ( earth penetrating radar system ) which can be applied to these avalanche type incidents ...this is over and above the radio beacon signal which they already have been using for some time

i personally am really pleased india has developed this type of earth penetrating RADAR which i believe nether pack nor ccpchigna has ....and the press reports should not give too much detail away , so we shd not be irritated if they say little .

i believe there is more than one source in the indian publications on the net and you can read more details there

Jai Hind , Well done ( v. sad we lost the man in the end and i salute him
profusely for the fight he put up - what a man ! )

Best Regards all ,
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Bro , thanks for your like ....i double-checked my post .........i did not say GPS ....

i said radar , didnt i ? .... the difference is in the application and signal strength - even though there is much in common in the principles of the science of the two

Times if india reported this fact a few days ago , that the army ( drdo ? ) has developed such a radar based detection system ( earth penetrating radar system ) which can be applied to these avalanche type incidents ...this is over and above the radio beacon signal which they already have been using for some time

i personally am really pleased india has developed this type of earth penetrating RADAR which i believe nether pack nor ccpchigna has ....and the press reports should not give too much detail away , so we shd not be irritated if they say little .

i believe there is more than one source in the indian publications on the net and you can read more details there

Jai Hind , Well done ( v. sad we lost the man in the end and i salute him
profusely for the fight he put up - what a man ! )

Best Regards all ,
R
DRDO Reminds Govt About Snow Studies Aircraft Requirement

The DRDO has applied afresh to the government for an urgent requirement of a specialized aircraft to undertake survey missions and data gathering in high altitude snowed out areas. Structured under the DRDO, the Chandigarh-based laboratory has expressed a requirement for one custom-fitted platform capable of undertaking and supporting ongoing and future research central to avalanche and snow studies. The tender requires interested contractors to identify a certified aircraft platform and deliver it fully fitted with specified equipment or capabilities under a stipulated time frame.

Snow and Avalanche Study Establishment (SASE) is looking for an aircraft with twin engines and a minimum range of 2,000-km, capable of high altitude airfield performance and at least five hours time on station. The laboratory has stipulated that it requires the aircraft to have three sensor stations on board to man customer supplied equipment that includes an aerial LiDAR (Light-Radar) system and aerial large format photographic camera system, both from Switzerland's Leica Geosystems AG and and aerial hyper-spectral sensor system from Canadian firm ITRES Research Ltd.

It is learnt that the DRDO hopes to operate the aircraft from both the Chandigarh air force station as well as the Hindon air force station near Delhi (where the C-130J and C-17 squadrons are located). Several firms have evinced interest and are in preliminary discussions already with the DRDO, though the procurement hasn't been accorded high priority given the DRDO's other high-lead time requirements.
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Siachen chora Kashmir Gaya . Simple formula. All IA can do is adopt , introduce world class tech for patrolling etc etc .

In Switzerland Alps skiing resort . They deliberately fire canon rounds in mountain to do force Avalanche . This way there will no chance of another Avalanche . Does IA do that ???
 

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Siachen chora Kashmir Gaya . Simple formula. All IA can do is adopt , introduce world class tech for patrolling etc etc .

In Switzerland Alps skiing resort . They deliberately fire canon rounds in mountain to do force Avalanche . This way there will no chance of another Avalanche . Does IA do that ???
Nope. But this incident happened on a route of patrol not at the base. Since we don't know the topography of the area, we won't be able to comment on the feasibility of forced avalanches.
 

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A Much Delayed DRDO Technology Could Have Saved Lance Naik Koppad

A remote health monitoring smart vest for soldiers has been on trials since 2004-05; it could have instantly relayed information about survivors following the February 3 avalanche that buried the soldiers

A crucial wearable sensor product using sophisticated technologies developed by a lab under Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) could have saved the life of Lance Naik Hanumanthappa Koppad - and may be some others of his team too - who was buried under tonnes of ice 35-feet-thick for six days following a deadly avalanche that entombed the Sonam Post they were guarding on Saltoro Ridge on Siachen Glacier on February 3.

But the product, known as the wearable physiological monitoring system (WPMS) - or simply the 'smart vest' - conceived in 2004-05 is still undergoing field tests today despite over a decade of development and trials at various stages, scientists from Defence Bioengineering & Electrome-dical Laboratory of the DRDO, informed Bangalore Mirror.:tsk:

The scientists refrained from disclosing where the WPMS was being field-tested, but "If the WPMS was used on these soldiers, we could have definitely been able to save (at least some of) them," said M Anandan, joint director, DEBEL, deducing that if Koppad had survived six days buried under 35 feet of snow, there could have been others too who had lived after the avalanche.

The WPMS is a crucial technology which is embedded in a vest worn in direct body contact. It is embedded with an array of sensors, each connected to a central processing unit to allow specialists based at a faraway station to remotely monitor the health and fitness aspects of each of the soldiers posted in remote border areas.

Each soldier wears a smart vest so that specialists at the base station, hundreds of kilometres away, are able to monitor each one independently and simultaneously.
The WPMS is designed using a microcontroller. It is interfaced with wireless communication and global positioning system (GPS) modules. It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate of each soldier.

DEBEL scientists said that among all these, the photoplethysmogram, the galvanic skin response, the heart rate and the GPS-supported geo-locator could have instantly alerted the specialists at the base station that something has gone wrong - and precisely where under the snow - immediately after the avalanche.

The scientists explained that the photoplethysmogram (PPG) noninvasively screens and relays in real-time valuable information about the performance of each soldier's cardiovascular system. It detects anomalies by illuminating the skin with a light from a light-emitting diode (LED) and then measuring the amount of light either transmitted or reflected to a photodiode attached to the vest.
The galvanic skin response (GSR) detects a change in the electrical properties of the skin in response to stress or anxiety; and can be measured either by recording the electrical resistance of the skin or through weak currents generated by the body in such circumstances.

"The GSR and PPG could have instantly relayed clear signals about each soldier's condition - whether dead or alive, and if alive then in what condition," said the DEBEL scientist, who did not want to named.

The search and rescue teams could have been immediately deployed as the WPMS would have informed the base station that Koppad was alive. The WPMS could have also instantly relayed whether the others were alive in the hours and days after the avalanche.
"In fact, we could have had accurate information about how many of the ten had survived immediately after the avalanche; we surely could have instantly known that Lance Naik Koppad was still alive under the icy rubble," said a senior DEBEL scientist.

Instead, they had been all 'declared confirmed dead' on February 5. It was during the exercise to retrieve the bodies on February 8 that they discovered that Koppad was still alive when the first search & rescue team reached the site using life-detecting equipment.

The site itself was located under the humungous rubble of ice and by receiving radio signals emitted from the operations communication sets, which the soldiers on duty atop Siachen are ordered to keep on precisely for such emergencies.

The WPMS was conceived a decade ago. It has been successfully tried at some undisclosed private hospitals in the city as part of the first stage of trials in the mid-2000s, following which it entered the field trial stage.
The WPMS has yet to be inducted into Indian Army; but as DEBEL scientists say, the system could be found most valuable for soldiers posted in harsh environments such as the Siachen Glacier.

WHAT IS WPMS?
* It is a product developed by the Defence Bioengineering & Electromedical Laboratory of the DRDO.
* It is a vest attached with an array of sensors to relay health status of soldiers to remote base stations
* It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate.

HOW COULD WPMS HAVE HELPED?
* It could have remotely alerted the base station that the health parameters of the ten soldiers are abnormal
* It could have provided precise location of each of the soldiers in real-time.
* This could have helped the Army know that at least Koppad was still alive, and may be some others too.
* The precise health status of each would have informed the base station exactly how many are dead, how many alive and in what condition.
* This information could have helped in cutting time, instead of waiting to reach the spot and then realise five days later that at least Koppad was still alive.
* The acquired signals are sent in real-time at a speed of 250samples/second, digitised at 12-bit resolution and transmitted wirelessly along with the geo-location of the wearer.

Source>>
 

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A Much Delayed DRDO Technology Could Have Saved Lance Naik Koppad

A remote health monitoring smart vest for soldiers has been on trials since 2004-05; it could have instantly relayed information about survivors following the February 3 avalanche that buried the soldiers

A crucial wearable sensor product using sophisticated technologies developed by a lab under Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) could have saved the life of Lance Naik Hanumanthappa Koppad - and may be some others of his team too - who was buried under tonnes of ice 35-feet-thick for six days following a deadly avalanche that entombed the Sonam Post they were guarding on Saltoro Ridge on Siachen Glacier on February 3.

But the product, known as the wearable physiological monitoring system (WPMS) - or simply the 'smart vest' - conceived in 2004-05 is still undergoing field tests today despite over a decade of development and trials at various stages, scientists from Defence Bioengineering & Electrome-dical Laboratory of the DRDO, informed Bangalore Mirror.:tsk:

The scientists refrained from disclosing where the WPMS was being field-tested, but "If the WPMS was used on these soldiers, we could have definitely been able to save (at least some of) them," said M Anandan, joint director, DEBEL, deducing that if Koppad had survived six days buried under 35 feet of snow, there could have been others too who had lived after the avalanche.

The WPMS is a crucial technology which is embedded in a vest worn in direct body contact. It is embedded with an array of sensors, each connected to a central processing unit to allow specialists based at a faraway station to remotely monitor the health and fitness aspects of each of the soldiers posted in remote border areas.

Each soldier wears a smart vest so that specialists at the base station, hundreds of kilometres away, are able to monitor each one independently and simultaneously.
The WPMS is designed using a microcontroller. It is interfaced with wireless communication and global positioning system (GPS) modules. It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate of each soldier.

DEBEL scientists said that among all these, the photoplethysmogram, the galvanic skin response, the heart rate and the GPS-supported geo-locator could have instantly alerted the specialists at the base station that something has gone wrong - and precisely where under the snow - immediately after the avalanche.

The scientists explained that the photoplethysmogram (PPG) noninvasively screens and relays in real-time valuable information about the performance of each soldier's cardiovascular system. It detects anomalies by illuminating the skin with a light from a light-emitting diode (LED) and then measuring the amount of light either transmitted or reflected to a photodiode attached to the vest.
The galvanic skin response (GSR) detects a change in the electrical properties of the skin in response to stress or anxiety; and can be measured either by recording the electrical resistance of the skin or through weak currents generated by the body in such circumstances.

"The GSR and PPG could have instantly relayed clear signals about each soldier's condition - whether dead or alive, and if alive then in what condition," said the DEBEL scientist, who did not want to named.

The search and rescue teams could have been immediately deployed as the WPMS would have informed the base station that Koppad was alive. The WPMS could have also instantly relayed whether the others were alive in the hours and days after the avalanche.
"In fact, we could have had accurate information about how many of the ten had survived immediately after the avalanche; we surely could have instantly known that Lance Naik Koppad was still alive under the icy rubble," said a senior DEBEL scientist.

Instead, they had been all 'declared confirmed dead' on February 5. It was during the exercise to retrieve the bodies on February 8 that they discovered that Koppad was still alive when the first search & rescue team reached the site using life-detecting equipment.

The site itself was located under the humungous rubble of ice and by receiving radio signals emitted from the operations communication sets, which the soldiers on duty atop Siachen are ordered to keep on precisely for such emergencies.

The WPMS was conceived a decade ago. It has been successfully tried at some undisclosed private hospitals in the city as part of the first stage of trials in the mid-2000s, following which it entered the field trial stage.
The WPMS has yet to be inducted into Indian Army; but as DEBEL scientists say, the system could be found most valuable for soldiers posted in harsh environments such as the Siachen Glacier.

WHAT IS WPMS?
* It is a product developed by the Defence Bioengineering & Electromedical Laboratory of the DRDO.
* It is a vest attached with an array of sensors to relay health status of soldiers to remote base stations
* It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate.

HOW COULD WPMS HAVE HELPED?
* It could have remotely alerted the base station that the health parameters of the ten soldiers are abnormal
* It could have provided precise location of each of the soldiers in real-time.
* This could have helped the Army know that at least Koppad was still alive, and may be some others too.
* The precise health status of each would have informed the base station exactly how many are dead, how many alive and in what condition.
* This information could have helped in cutting time, instead of waiting to reach the spot and then realise five days later that at least Koppad was still alive.
* The acquired signals are sent in real-time at a speed of 250samples/second, digitised at 12-bit resolution and transmitted wirelessly along with the geo-location of the wearer.

Source>>
Nice ,it could have given a clearer image of what is happening,better late then never let the army do field trail with it ,it will help to reduce loss of life.
 

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A Much Delayed DRDO Technology Could Have Saved Lance Naik Koppad

A remote health monitoring smart vest for soldiers has been on trials since 2004-05; it could have instantly relayed information about survivors following the February 3 avalanche that buried the soldiers

A crucial wearable sensor product using sophisticated technologies developed by a lab under Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) could have saved the life of Lance Naik Hanumanthappa Koppad - and may be some others of his team too - who was buried under tonnes of ice 35-feet-thick for six days following a deadly avalanche that entombed the Sonam Post they were guarding on Saltoro Ridge on Siachen Glacier on February 3.

But the product, known as the wearable physiological monitoring system (WPMS) - or simply the 'smart vest' - conceived in 2004-05 is still undergoing field tests today despite over a decade of development and trials at various stages, scientists from Defence Bioengineering & Electrome-dical Laboratory of the DRDO, informed Bangalore Mirror.:tsk:

The scientists refrained from disclosing where the WPMS was being field-tested, but "If the WPMS was used on these soldiers, we could have definitely been able to save (at least some of) them," said M Anandan, joint director, DEBEL, deducing that if Koppad had survived six days buried under 35 feet of snow, there could have been others too who had lived after the avalanche.

The WPMS is a crucial technology which is embedded in a vest worn in direct body contact. It is embedded with an array of sensors, each connected to a central processing unit to allow specialists based at a faraway station to remotely monitor the health and fitness aspects of each of the soldiers posted in remote border areas.

Each soldier wears a smart vest so that specialists at the base station, hundreds of kilometres away, are able to monitor each one independently and simultaneously.
The WPMS is designed using a microcontroller. It is interfaced with wireless communication and global positioning system (GPS) modules. It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate of each soldier.

DEBEL scientists said that among all these, the photoplethysmogram, the galvanic skin response, the heart rate and the GPS-supported geo-locator could have instantly alerted the specialists at the base station that something has gone wrong - and precisely where under the snow - immediately after the avalanche.

The scientists explained that the photoplethysmogram (PPG) noninvasively screens and relays in real-time valuable information about the performance of each soldier's cardiovascular system. It detects anomalies by illuminating the skin with a light from a light-emitting diode (LED) and then measuring the amount of light either transmitted or reflected to a photodiode attached to the vest.
The galvanic skin response (GSR) detects a change in the electrical properties of the skin in response to stress or anxiety; and can be measured either by recording the electrical resistance of the skin or through weak currents generated by the body in such circumstances.

"The GSR and PPG could have instantly relayed clear signals about each soldier's condition - whether dead or alive, and if alive then in what condition," said the DEBEL scientist, who did not want to named.

The search and rescue teams could have been immediately deployed as the WPMS would have informed the base station that Koppad was alive. The WPMS could have also instantly relayed whether the others were alive in the hours and days after the avalanche.
"In fact, we could have had accurate information about how many of the ten had survived immediately after the avalanche; we surely could have instantly known that Lance Naik Koppad was still alive under the icy rubble," said a senior DEBEL scientist.

Instead, they had been all 'declared confirmed dead' on February 5. It was during the exercise to retrieve the bodies on February 8 that they discovered that Koppad was still alive when the first search & rescue team reached the site using life-detecting equipment.

The site itself was located under the humungous rubble of ice and by receiving radio signals emitted from the operations communication sets, which the soldiers on duty atop Siachen are ordered to keep on precisely for such emergencies.

The WPMS was conceived a decade ago. It has been successfully tried at some undisclosed private hospitals in the city as part of the first stage of trials in the mid-2000s, following which it entered the field trial stage.
The WPMS has yet to be inducted into Indian Army; but as DEBEL scientists say, the system could be found most valuable for soldiers posted in harsh environments such as the Siachen Glacier.

WHAT IS WPMS?
* It is a product developed by the Defence Bioengineering & Electromedical Laboratory of the DRDO.
* It is a vest attached with an array of sensors to relay health status of soldiers to remote base stations
* It monitors and issues real-time signals pertaining to electrocardiogram (ECG), photoplethysmogram, body temperature, blood pressure, galvanic skin response and heart rate.

HOW COULD WPMS HAVE HELPED?
* It could have remotely alerted the base station that the health parameters of the ten soldiers are abnormal
* It could have provided precise location of each of the soldiers in real-time.
* This could have helped the Army know that at least Koppad was still alive, and may be some others too.
* The precise health status of each would have informed the base station exactly how many are dead, how many alive and in what condition.
* This information could have helped in cutting time, instead of waiting to reach the spot and then realise five days later that at least Koppad was still alive.
* The acquired signals are sent in real-time at a speed of 250samples/second, digitised at 12-bit resolution and transmitted wirelessly along with the geo-location of the wearer.

Source>>
Why is it still in trials?
Technology WRT wearables has changed dramatically just the last year. If they are still under trial, they would be better of scrapping the old product and use the currently available options.
This whole thing reminds me of the Police arriving in old Hindi movies. Always late and never of use.
 

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In Siachen tragedy, a tale of an officer's priceless faith
SUJAN DuTTA

Hanamanthappa Koppad

New Delhi, Feb. 11: Faith is a Madrasi Gorkha.

In the collective shock of a country at the death, life and death of Lance Naik Hanamanthappa Koppad, one man stands tall: his commanding officer, Col Um Bahadur Gurung of the Indian Army's 19 Madras battalion.

Gurung kept hope alive and supervised the rescue and search at the post in Sonam after the wall of ice came down on his men on February 3. It was his faith that led the rescuers to Hanamanthappa and the others.

Hanamanthappa died a little before noon following multiple organ failure, three days after he was pulled out alive from the ice-and-snow debris and nine days after the avalanche that killed nine other soldiers.

"Lance Naik Hanamanthappa is no more. He breathed his last at 11.45am today," the Army Research and Referral Hospital said.

"We tried our level best to fight the death of the brave Siachen warrior but this morning his blood pressure dropped despite our best efforts and he had a cardiac arrest," Lt Gen. S.D. Duhan, the director and commandant of the hospital, said.

Gurung is a rare officer. A Nepali from Pokharan, he joined the Indian Army as a sepoy in the Gorkha Rifles. He was selected for the Army Cadet College through tough competition. The ACC in Dehradun trains personnel below officer rank to be commissioned as officers.

Following a stint in the Indian Military Academy, he was commissioned into the Intelligence Corps. He was sent on attachment to 19 Madras. His superiors found his skills were exceptional. They quarrelled with their commanders and finally convinced the military secretary in Army Headquarters that he should be retained in the infantry.

The Thambis (little brother in Tamil) - as the Madras Regiment is often called - have had their way so far. So it is that a Gorkha Thambi was born.

"I found a special spark in him, especially in man management," recalled Maj Gen. Virendra Kumar (retired) who commanded the battalion between 1997 and 1999. "He was a Gorkha but he was received very well by the Madrasis and after his excellent role in Mendhar on the Line of Control, everyone looked up to him."

Kumar recalls that Gurung was tasked to lead a squad that was hunting militants who had infiltrated through the LoC.

"I had left a report with successors that we should try to retain him, especially for his conduct in small team operations. It is not easy to make the transition from jawan to officer but he made it through the written test and the interview." Kumar said his transfer to the infantry required a lot of persuasion.

"Look what he has delivered today. Bodies have taken six to eight months to be found in the Glacier. There are many that are yet to be found," said Kumar who has also served as chief of staff in the Kashmir Valley (15) Corps.

"Demise of soldiers in Siachen is very tragic," Prime Minister Narendra Modi tweeted on February 4. "I salute the brave soldiers who gave their lives to the nation. Condolences to their families."

The message all but conveyed that there was little hope of survivors. Indeed there were doubts on whether the bodies could be recovered at all. But a radio crackled sometime in the evening, static delivering a message from beneath the blinding whiteness of the ice and snow.

Col. Gurung told his men that nobody was to leave but that they should work in short bursts to both keep their bodies warm and continue the search. He called the base commander, at 10,500ft. He was between 19,600 and 20,000ft at all times, even through the nights.

Between the Siachen Brigade (102) commander, the Northern Command and Army Headquarters in Delhi, his calls stirred a whole chain into action. First, two short-range Doppler Radars from the base camp were moved up to Sonam. An additional seven deep search Doppler Radars were flown from the Northern Command headquarters in Udhampur and Sirsawan.

Two battalions of the Ladakh Scouts manning nearby posts were part of the rescue from the beginning. Ladakhis acclimatise faster in the heights. From the Siachen Battle School at the Brigade headquarters, four teams of instructors were sent up.

Gurung knew the post was roughly 20 metres by 20 metres, including the helipad. The wall of ice that had fallen on it and broken into pieces was about 800 metres by 1,200 metres. Using the Doppler Radars, the rescuers found seven spots that may be air bubbles under the ice and snow.

The rescuers started digging seven holes. Each hole was assigned three teams that would take turns in the digging along with the dogs, Dot and Misha.

"Gurung always had a never-say-die attitude," says Colonel Devdutt Patankar (retired). Gurung was his second-in-command when Patankar headed the battalion from 2007 to 2009.

Both Kumar and Patankar recalled Gurung's work during Operation Parakram - the full deployment of the Indian military following the attack on Parliament on December 13, 2001.

He was forward deployed in the Ajnala sector on the Punjab border. The terrain had tall grass, and mining the fields, in anticipation that war could be breaking out with Pakistan, was ordered. Kumar knew this was a dangerous task and did not want casualties.

In Op Parakram, about 500 Indian soldiers were killed during mining and de-mining - soldiers killed without going into a war that never broke out but for which they were deployed for more than a year.

Kumar entrusted the task to Gurung. He was involved in removing six minefields after Parakram was called off. That is because he was meticulous in keeping the record on how many mines were laid and where. Floods and natural phenomena often cause mines to shift and take the lives of soldiers and civilians alike.

Each of the minefields was 600 metres by 400 metres. Kumar said he completed the task and did not have a single casualty.

That same meticulous detailing has gone into finding the bodies of his soldiers through this week in the harshest of climes. He nearly saved one.

Hanamanthappa's death has served another notice on what it means to be an Indian Armyman even in peacetime. What it means for Gurung to lose a man is yet to be learnt.

In the tragedy of the death of Hanamanthappa and his comrades, it is also time to celebrate a hero. That hero is faith, a Madrasi Gorkha and a commanding officer.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160212/jsp/nation/story_68869.jsp
 

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Aum Nama: Shivaya:
you who is the energy & the soul,
You who is the master of the universe,
You who are the provider of Moksha.

Let our warriors be reborn,
let their life force awaken in us, the living,
to rise and and to fight once more,
when our motherland needs her sons the most.
Aum Nama: Shivaya:



-A tribute;
In proud memory of the soldiers of the Indian Army.
 

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Hi-Tech Robots to Help in Surveillance in Harsh Areas like Siachen

NEW DELHI: Martyr Lance Naik Hanamanthappa lost his struggle with life after a miraculous survival for six days in an avalanche which resulted in death of nine other armed forces personnel.
Working in harsh environments like Siachen where temperatures drop to -50 degrees centigrade is never going to be easy. In such areas robotics is the future of surveillance and rescue operations.
Hi-Tech Robotics has developed Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear ( CBRN) - an Unmanned Ground Vehicle (CBRN) in collaboration with Defence Research & design Organisation (DRDO).

The Hi-Tech Robotic Systemz has been co-developed by with VRDE, Ahmadnagar (DRDO lab). This robot can be used for saving lives of defense personnel in Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear warfare and variants of this robot can be used for video surveillance, UXO handling & combat / anti-terrorist operations, according to a statement. At high altitudes with harsh environments, the robot can do surveillance and can aid in rescue operations where landing is not possible.

S Radhakrishnan, OS & Director - Industry Interface and Technology Management, DRDO said, "Military technology is becoming complex and Robotics is going to play a big role in defense technology." Robotics is a multi-disciplinary field and a good understanding of mechanics, automation, electronics, image processing is a must.

Speaking at the sidelines of the event Anuj Kapuria, Director & CEO, The Hi-Tech Robotic Systemz (THRSL) said in a release, "DRDO has provided us an opportunity to develop technology which can strengthen our armed forces."

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