Agni V Missile

  1. #1096
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    kolkata
    Posts
    974
    Likes
    172
    India
    the agni3 was reported to have a cep of 40m which was the most accurate missile of it's class.but the agni-5 is 1 generation ahead in terms of range,manuverability,abm countermeasures and navigation than agni3.it has a dual mode navigational system based on inertial naigation and ring laser gyroscope.so it is much more accurate than agni-3.i think it's cep is less than 20m or it can even be less than 10m which will make it's precision similar to cruise missiles and hence and be used in conventional role apart from strategic role
    sayareakd likes this.

  2. #1097
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    112
    Likes
    47
    Well Agni III, IV and Agni V are going to have the the same SOC. All of them have at least an accuracy of 0.001 meters per hour accuracy.(The operative word is at least. This is the accuracy of one of the systems. The accuracy of laser guidance is classified.) Agni V and Agni III are different in terms of material used in the test. Agni III is going to be upgraded to Agni V standard navigational system. Agni III is still being tested. It's not clear if the interstages are going to remain in Agni III in the future tests. Dr Saraswat has stated that Agni III can be upgraded, i.e. the few operational missiles are going to be changed. Read the interview on what's the status of Agni III in front line interview of Avinash Chander.(Read between the lines on the failure analysis.) So Agni III, IV and Agni V have the same accuracy. They will use the same SOC and navigational aids. This does not detract from the fact that the accuracy is in single digits. I have quoted the figures available in public domain.

    Also on a different note, at 5000km the disclosed figures of 29.9 or 30m with even a 10kt warhead will mean there will be nothing left in counter-force or counter-value even if the missile hits 30 m away from the exact position it was supposed to land. Assuming it's Hu jintau's office window. There will be no nothing alive or moving for 200 or 300 meters forget about 30 meters this way or that.

    However this figure of 0.001 meters per hour of travel will become more important at ICBM ranges. There is no need to disclose what it is right now. There are reports of single digit accuracy for all missiles including Agni III. What's changed with Agni IV , Agni V is that it's a standardized package. This fixes two problems with earlier versions weight of the navigational system and consequently the cooling of the navigational system have improved dramatically.(Read the newspaper reports which point to this.) All of this is going back into Agni III. Agni III is getting MIRV too. Agni IV is non MIRV. All future tests of Agni III are tests of some parts of Agni V. Our program is called Integrated missile development program. So what happens in Shourya affects what happens in Agni V, Agni IV and Agni III and the BMD. I could go on but it's sufficient.

    Tea leaf reading as usual. You can choose to ignore it.
    sayareakd and Apollyon like this.

  3. #1098
    Moderator LETHALFORCE
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,639
    Likes
    3245
    United States
    `India capable of making missiles with 8,000 km range`


    Bangalore: India is capable of developing missiles that can hit targets located at more than 8,000 km away, a top official today said.

    "We will develop it as and when we see a need to develop a missile longer in range than Agni-V. We have the capability to do it," Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister V K Saraswat told reporters here.

    Since DRDO had already crossed the 'threshold' of making a system with longer capability and developing its sub- systems, making a longer version of Agni-V would be easier, Saraswat, also the Director General of Defence Research Organisation, said.



    Last month, India test-fired nuclear-capable Agni-V Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile that brought China within its reach with a strike range of over 5000 km.

    Saraswat said Agni-V can double up as a satellite launcher for hurling small-sized spacecraft into the space.

    Agni-V had major propulsion blocks and a kind of aviation technology which makes it a suitable launch vehicle for sending small satellites into space, he added. DRDO had started work on it, he said but refused to give a timeframe.
    sesha_maruthi27 likes this.

  4. #1099
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India


    Is shows the lazer based navigation system used in Agni V and the material used for making RV
    and also the face of the people working in this project
    Kunal Biswas and SPIEZ like this.

  5. #1100
    Stars and Ambassadors sayareakd
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    10,394
    Likes
    6074
    India
    this is old video, discussed at the time of launch.

  6. #1101
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    That's an interesting question,as all media reports claims Agni V as road mobile yet we do not have a vehicle in hand that can ferry it on her own, to the best we have a BEML trailer of 65 tons capacity which itself is 23 tonnes and runs with 32 tyres, now thats no solution for a military mobility compared to other land based missile carriers available around the world, hell even North Korea have her vehicle for her prospective ICBM.

    Either making it domestically or buy it from a foreign firm, I would like something like this.....

    (cross posting)

    ...........................cont in part 2 as rules does not permits <8 images
    sesha_maruthi27 likes this.

  7. #1102
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    ......continuation.

    Watch out the Mammoth Tyres the vehicle got, seems like it is comparable with Indian agricultural tractors, but if current local capacity for missile mobility is the 32 wheeled trailer and as we have seen the innovative wheeled version of BMP that India discovered I am afraid I would prefer a foreign import something like the MZKT-79221
    Last edited by Payeng; 16-06-12 at 02:37 PM.

  8. #1103
    Stars and Ambassadors sayareakd
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    10,394
    Likes
    6074
    India
    i think A5 with canister would be like this as shown in NDTV

    9j2ioz

    [IMG]http://www.ndtv.com/news/Agniapproved295.jpg[/IMG

    so launcher truck would be based on existing agni series.

    like this

    agniiiirday2010?height251&ampwidth400

    agniIII380

  9. #1104
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    Is it a dummy truck head infront of the trailer? Seems like the vehicle in front is doing the real effort.

  10. #1105
    Senior Member H.A.
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    1,405
    Likes
    617
    India
    the dummy truck could be the command module....which would include lifting the missile to the desired angle and then fire it.

  11. #1106
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    Thats India's mobility power, a road train mobility now compare it with MZKT-79221
    Last edited by Payeng; 16-06-12 at 03:56 PM. Reason: correction
    sesha_maruthi27 likes this.

  12. #1107
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    Most likely transport option for Agni V
    10374pg

    This explains why Indian Armed force prefers Tatra above local alternatives.

  13. #1108
    Daku Mongol Singh Payeng
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Neistan
    Posts
    2,315
    Likes
    638
    India
    If my calculations are correct the tyres in MZKT-79221 should be around 62 inch in oppose to 20 inch tyres of the Trailer, a common among Indian lorries.

    Comparing it with a close civilian model of VOLAT

    MZKT-79081
    http://www.mzkt.by/eng/catalog.php?id=79081


    Though I may be wrong the tyre specification is 1600-600-685, if any one wants to try.



    Added later.
    __________________________________________________ _____________________________________
    Forget it it should be around 27 inches..........................LOL (nvm)
    Last edited by Payeng; 16-06-12 at 04:50 PM. Reason: Addition/correction :(

  14. #1109
    Stars and Ambassadors sayareakd
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    10,394
    Likes
    6074
    India
    that is armor protected chamber for the crew, plus it has its own engine to move it on to rail and it can be move to off road to some extent. hope it has NCB protection for the crew.

  15. #1110
    House keeper Sridhar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,122
    Likes
    498
    DRDO: Intercontinental ballistic missiles well within reach

    Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) is the deceptively bland name that obscures from public view the Defence Research & Development Organisation’s (DRDO’s) most glamorous laboratory. At the DRDO missile complex here in Hyderabad, ASL develops the ballistic missiles that, in the ultimate nuclear nightmare, will carry Indian nuclear weapons to targets — thousands of kilometres away. Foreign collaboration is seeping into many areas of R&D, but ASL’s technological domain — the realm of strategic ballistic missiles — is something that no country parts with, for love or for money. No foreigner would ever set foot in ASL.

    But Business Standard has been allowed an exclusive visit. The erudite, soft-spoken director of ASL, Dr V G Sekharan, describes the technologies that were developed for the DRDO’s new, 5,000-kilometre range Agni-5 missile, which was tested flawlessly in April. He reveals nothing except restraint stood between India and an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) that could strike a target anywhere on the globe.

    ICBMs have ranges above 5,500 kilometres, a threshold that the Agni-5 already sits on. For India, a more strategically relevant range would be about 7,500 kilometres, which would cover the world except for the Americas.



    “Going up from 5,000 kilometres to, let us say, 7,500 kilometres requires only incremental changes, which we have already assessed. We would need a more powerful booster, which we could make ourselves at ASL; and we would need to strengthen some of the systems, such as heat shielding, that are already flying on the Agni-V,” says Sekharan.

    For now, however, ASL is not developing an ICBM. Instead, its focus is on “operationalising” the Agni-V, which involves putting it into a canister and conducting three to four test-launches from the canister. When the Agni-V enters service with the Strategic Forces Command (SFC), which operates India’s nuclear deterrent, it will be delivered in hermetically sealed canisters that safeguard the road-mobile missiles for over a decade, while they are transported and handled.

    Launching a ballistic missile from a canister is a technological feat that ASL has perfected with smaller missiles, and will now modify for the bigger Agni-V. Since the missile’s giant rocket motors cannot be fired while it is inside the canister, a gas-generation unit at the bottom of the canister, below the missile, generates a massive boost of gas that ejects the missile from the canister.

    “The gas pushes the Agni-V out, like a bullet from the barrel of a gun. In less than half a second, the 50-tonne missile clears the canister by 15 metres, and that is when the rocket motor can safely ignite. In 30 seconds, the Agni-V breaks the sound barrier and, in 90 seconds, it has left the atmosphere,” explains Sekharan.

    The DRDO has promised the armed forces that the Agni-V will be test-fired from a canister in early 2013. ASL is on track to achieve that target, says Sekharan. Within a couple of months, a “pop-up test” will be conducted with a canister, in which the gas generator ejects a dummy missile. Meanwhile, the actual missile is being integrated with the canister.

    The Agni-V project funding has already been cleared by the political council of the Union cabinet, a fast-track procedure for strategic projects that eliminates cumbersome MoD sanctions. This allows ASL to place orders for the materials and sub-systems that will go into the first few Agni-V missiles, taking care of production lead times. ASL scientists recount that “maraging steel” for the canister takes two years to be delivered by specialist defence PSU, Midhani. The rocket motor casings take another one year.

    On the question that exercises strategic analysts the world over — is ASL developing “multi independently-targetable re-entry vehicles”, or MIRVs — Sekharan remains ambiguous: “I can say we are working on MIRV technologies. The key challenge — the “post-boost vehicle”, which carries the multiple warheads — is not a technology challenge, merely an engineering one. DRDO will acquire and demonstrate the capability for MIRVs by 2014-15. But the decision to deploy MIRVs would be a political one.”

    MIRVs are multiple warheads, up to ten, which would be fitted atop a single Agni-V. These would be a mix of nuclear bombs and dummy warheads to confuse enemy air defences. Each warhead can be programmed to hit a different target; or multiple warheads can be directed at a single target, but with different trajectories.

    Interestingly, Sekharan reveals that the DRDO does not need sanction to begin work on such technologies. “The decision-making works like this: we demonstrate the technology and the capability. Then the government decides, keeping in mind the big picture.”

    “In the Agni-V, the government didn’t say, ‘we have a threat perception… I need a long-range missile.’ It was the DRDO that said that we now have the capability to enhance the Agni-III to 5,000 kilometres, and so the government sanctioned the project.”

    DRDO: Intercontinental ballistic missiles well within reach | idrw.org


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Agni-VI Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM)
    By Sridhar in forum Strategic Forces
    Replies: 75
    Last Post: 19-05-13, 11:08 PM
  2. Agni -MIRV
    By LETHALFORCE in forum Strategic Forces
    Replies: 104
    Last Post: 23-11-12, 06:44 AM
  3. Agni V Missile test launch
    By Singh in forum Strategic Forces
    Replies: 876
    Last Post: 20-04-12, 05:57 AM
  4. AGNI RV MK 2 manoeuvring missile
    By LETHALFORCE in forum Strategic Forces
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-02-10, 06:32 AM
  5. 'Missile woman' to handle ambitious Agni-V project
    By youngindian in forum Strategic Forces
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-07-09, 06:48 PM