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    Yes that is because the political establishment is following the divide and rule principle adopted by the British. In ALL the other countries, who are secular, the majority religion does not worry about the the need to pander to the minorities for eg. The UK. They live and let live.

    Its not so in India. In India the politicians of a certain 'secular' party are still stuck in a time warp.

    When Bandra-Worli sea link was inaugurated, Amitabh Bacchan was invited. The congress were pissed off. They were doubly pissed off when AB chose to be a brand ambassador for Gujarat tourism. In the opinion of Congress, ambassador of Gujarat Tourism is effectively an ambassador of Modi. The congress is still stuck in' Indira is India and India is Indira' mode. They cannot differentiate between an individual and state. These are the same guys who killed many a Sikhs and are still living to not suffer the consequences of that. The Ranganath Mishra commission stated that congress was responsible and the people who participated in the riots were clearly sympathetic to the Congress or party members themselves. Read it up yourself if you doubt me.

    Extrapolating this, in Gujarat the new Nanavati commission states implicitly the attacks on the Godhra train were pre-planned and it exonerated Modi.

    In spite of this, our media tells us Modi was responsible for the riots. These are the exact people who claim RSS is anti-Muslim and anti-Christian. They are pro-Hindu but they are not anti any religion. They clearly oppose any institution or party or group who are anti-Hindu.

    Congress is proven to be anti Hindu by trying to be pro muslim and pro christian. I could give you many links which prove that as well.

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    Clearly you have no clue of what you are talking about.

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    ad hominem. RSS does not stand in elections. And BJP is not RSS. I am RSS but I am not BJP.

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    BJP is not RSS & that is why I still have faith in BJP.

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    I don't think either of Congress and BJP is pro Hindu and even pro muslim. They're both pro power.
    But in my opinion the pseudo sickulars of Congress are more dangerous for the people (specially minorities) because of the hypocrisy they're full of.

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Oh please, media is one of the culprit and you can't deny that.
And supporting RSS and supporting BJP is different thing.Well, you came up with topic of support than let me clear here further.
Congress has the bigger foot since our independence.Most of the politicians linked to RSS were in congress.BJP was built firmly in 80s and than it was continuously getting support from people who're literate and knew what's congress' strategy. Whilst poor, iliterate people were unaware of congress' political tectics. Still, you can find out how illiterate and ignorant people are.The lady who cooks in our mess says Congress is good, I asked why, she said during Indira Gandhi era there was no price rise, things were very much cheaper than now.Now what should I tell this lady.She's still in the dark.It's just an example, it's congress' vote bank who don't know the reality.
Than media entered in the battlefield.And you know the rest of the story.
RSS has been doing good work from a long time ago.It never seeks any attention on good works done by them.But media always shows their negative side and creat a bias in people's mind.Negative,paid and half true journalism is the fashion of today's era.I'm glad that most of the big cities having educated people have kicked out congress from civic bodies.
The foothold of congress is decreased a lot.It's winning elections on the basis of religion, caste based politics and also due to poor and rural areas' votes.
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    "RSS has been doing good work from a long time ago.It never seeks any attention on good works done by them"

    Very true, best example - how many of us aware that the famous Vivekananda Rock Memorial, that sacred monument and popular tourist attraction in Kanyakumari is built by a RSS Pracharak Shri. Eknath Ranade and also he is the founder of the famous social service organisation Vivekananda Kendra...RSS is one of the best thing happened to India - it units all Hindus as same children of mother India in-spite of different caste, creed, language or region...

    Vivekananda Rock Memorial, Kanyakumari - Eknath Ranade

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    Shuridh is frustrated with the support base of RSS. LOLOL. Don't worry my friend, it is an elephant, and is not bothered by roadside mongrels.

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    Dude.. forget abt RSS for a moment. Can i use your same logic of hatred for RSS to hate all Muslims?

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    If RSS were an anti-Muslim or anti-Christian organization then we could have seen hundreds of communal riots and religious turmoils here , and it has not happened because RSS ideology is different to what minority believes. Just have a look at Pakistan, and compare RSS with any anti-Hindu group of Pakistan, they abduct girls, marry them and convert them forcefully to Islam, have you ever seen RSS doing that ? basically RSS is pro-Hindu and being pro-Hindu doesn't mean it's anti-Muslim or anti-Christian.

    IMO he fears Hindu nationality and Hindutva, not RSS, RSS is just an excuse to falsely condemn and avoid Hindutva for many here.Many people who does not understand Hindutva takes it as a violent one, which is false. You see anti RSS comments basically comes from the minority communities, although there are some ignorants in majority communities too.

    In any country you will find religious minorities living under false and imaginary fears, but here in India majority is living in fear , now the same is happening in UK and Germany , US is already doing successful sting operations for terrorism. And some people blame RSS here.
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    i never say anything against hinduism.but you brought up muslim people.what you think rss represent all hindu.a religious fundamentalist organisation can't be compare with a whole group of religious population.you brings hatred for muslim as a whole issue which reflect rss core idology.
    Rss can be compareble with deboand/jammat -e hind not muslim.

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    Obviously, You know nothing about RSS.

    RSS in past gave one of the best Prime Minister and Chief Minister in India. (ABY and Modi). Today, There are 6 Chief Minister affiliated to RSS. It is running 70,000 schools catering 10+ millions students and around 1,00,000+ projects for social welfare.

    Comparing to Deoband ? looks like, You are smoking some cheap stuff these days.
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    "Don't judge success of RSS's ideology using the success of BJP. Each of 1,60,000 RSS projects are revolutions by themselves!" - Bala Apte

    If i support RSS that doesn't mean i will support BJP too. RSS does not tell it's cadres or indulge in any social activity for any political reason. They hardly tell to vote for BJP. They even criticize BJP many times. Indeed, In past they praised Indira Gandhi too.

    Basically, Sangh has an ideology and since BJP is a political extension of RSS, everyone thinks RSS=BJP which is not true. BJP may or may not win election but RSS is always rising. 5 cadres to 50 million supporters in 85 years!!

    Many don't know about various RSS projects because RSS don't do publicity. It's their strategy for some valid reason and i think it's good!!
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    Muslims stage dharna against ‘Beef Festival’ in Raipur, Chattisgarh

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    The members and activists of the Muslim Rashtriya Manch (MRM) Chhattisgrah State staged a massive dharna to protest against the blatant use of beef in the name of ‘Beef Festival’ organised by some ‘Dalit’ students of the Usmania Univesity at Hyderabad.

    The dharna staged at Budhapara was attended by over 200 Muslims including religious leaders and women. Addressing the activists MRM National Convenor Mohd Afzal, who had come to Raipur for the MRM Central Committee meeting, denounced the ‘Beef Festival’ in strongest words and demanded a complete ban on cow slaughter and use of beef. ‘Cow slaughter is against our culture. Such festivals are detrimental to our culture and therefore we demand a complete ban and strong punishment to the organisers of this ‘Beef Festival”, Afzal said to the thunderous applause from the audience.

    Describing this event as an attempt to wedge a divide between the Hindu and Muslim community Afzal blamed the forces behind this incident as anti-India and enemy of this country and its people. People should come forward to denounce such attempts, he said.

    Dr Salim Raj, Convenor of Chhattisgarh unit of MRM said that such festivals should not be organised at the University. Organising such events would create communal divide and tension. Dr Raj demanded stern action against the organisers of the ‘Beef Festival’.

    Shahjad Ali from Agra said that all communities in our country should respect the feelings of each other and thus create an atmosphere of communal harmony. In such a situation, organising festivals like this in university campus is a direct affront on the communal harmony and peace.

    The dharna meeting was addressed by MRM leaders including Girish Juyal, Abu Bkar Naqvi, Maulana Jalaluddin Rizvi, Imran Chaudhary, Maulana Said Jauhari, Mohd Sharif MIrza, Shahnaz Ali, Rehana Khan, Nazma Begam, and others.

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    BTW, Muslim Rashtriya Manch is a Muslim and sister organization under the RSS. It has presence in 23 states and 175 districts.
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    RSS' Magic - Kashmiri Muslims call for revoking article 370, taking back PoK and CAK

    For over eight decades, RSS has been working for empowering India with a nationalist agenda despite all the calumny against it. A fresh example of the same has appeared with reference to Kashmir. Some would know that Indresh Kumar, a senior RSS functionary, who’s been with the RSS since 1959, had founded Muslim Rashtriya Manch (MRM), an organisation of nationalist Muslims with a motive to bring Muslims in national mainstream. Indresh Kumar, who graduated with highest honours from Punjab Engineering College in Mechanical Engineering, didn’t take up a job to serve the nation. MRM has been the result of his tireless efforts and commitment towards the nation. However, his efforts and accomplishments were never reported by the mainstream media. If at all they were reported, that was in a demeaning manner. MRM had in the past collected the signatures of a million muslims to oppose cow-slaughter. But terrified of the growing influence of an RSS functionary among Muslims, Congress led government tried to frame him in the Mecca Mosque blast case and used the CBI for the same. This all notwithstanding, MRM’s activities went on and on, and now, the results are showing bright and beautiful.

    “Scrap Article 370, ensure employment to Kashmiri youths, retrieve areas forcefully occupied by Pakistan and China in Kashmir”. These are not the demands voiced by Hindu organizations or it's leaders. These demands were raised publically and in unison by the Muslims of India on Sunday, December 18, 2011 at Jantar-Mantar in New Delhi.

    The occasion was culmination of “Hum Hindustani-Kashmir Hindustan Ka”, a unique campaign launched some three months ago by Muslim Rashtriya Manch (MRM), an organization of nationalist Muslims of India. During the three-month campaign the MRM activists conducted prayers in mosques, convened seminars and meetings all over the country. The campaign concluded at New Delhi on December 18 in which nearly 10,000 Muslims drawn from 23 states and 175 districts of India participated braving the chilling cold and dense fog to raise these demands.

    Initiating the discussion Mohd Farooq from Srinagar categorically stated that the Article 370 was the main problem of Jammu and Kashmir. This article should be removed. Even the common people were in favor of its removal, he stated. He also blamed Sheikh Abdulla and Pt. Nehru for the problems of Kashmir. Mushtaq Ahmed Pir from Baramulla expressed that politics would not solve the problems of the people of Kashmir neither the problems would be redressed by raising the tricolor in Lal Chowk. A different approach needed to resolve and redress the issues blocking progress of the state.

    Bashir Ahmed, who started his speech with ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ stated demanded voting right for the refugees residing in Kashmir for the past six decades. Engineer Gulam Ali, who came from Bakkarwal community, blamed Sheikh Abdullah and Pt. Nehru for the present state of affairs in J & K. He said that the political leaders conspired against the Muslims of Jammu and heaped injustices against them. Demanding scrapping of Article 370, he added that this article helped only a handful of political leaders in the state. It has not done any good to the common masses, he added. Gulam Ali also demanded action on two resolutions adopted by the Parliament with regard to taking back the Indian territories forcefully occupied by Pakistan and China.

    Halima, a sister from Kashmir called for steps to improve the economic condition of the common people in the state. Nazir Mir, who lost three of his brothers in terrorist violence said that political parties had been playing with the sentiments of the people. Denouncing the demand for ‘azadi’ Mir asked “who want ‘azadi’ when we are already ‘azad’? He said that we were associated with the Muslim Rashtriya Manch and would remain so.

    Mufti maulana Abdus Saami voiced similar sentiments regarding Article 370. He said that this constitutional provision was solely responsible the problems of the state. Stalwarts like Maulana Hasrat Mohani, Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar, Rafi Ahmed Kidwai had opposed the inclusion of Article 370. But Pt Nehru insisted on its inclusion and in the following years political parties were using this provision for playing their political game. He praised the MRM for raising the issues related to border security for the first time. He assured that the Muslims in India would associated with the MRM and work under the guidance from Sri Indresh Kumar.

    President of Jamat-e-Hind said that this program was organized to insure progress of the nation. The situation in our border regions was serious even after sixty years of independence. The MRM was the first Muslim organization to raise the issue of border security. Abbas Ali Bohra from Bangalore said that Muslims in south India were in solidarity with the nationalist Muslims of J & K. He urged the Muslims to unite under the banner of the MRM and give a befitting reply to those anti-national forces active in the Kashmir Valley.

    Dr Salim Raj, Chairman of Haj Commmittee, Chhattisgarh said that Muslims were always patriotic in nature. He blamed the Congress for defaming the Muslims. Tanveer Ahmed, President of BJP Minority Morcha reminded the people the history of Kashmir problem. He said that the accession of Kashmir with India was ‘full and final’ when the Maharaja Hari Singh signed the “Instrument of Accession” on 26th October 1947. The problem of Kashmir was created by Pt Nehru when he declared one-sided ceasefire and took the issue to the UN. Quoting Rafi Ahmed Kidwai he said that Pt Nehru and his Congress were responsible for distorting the culture of Kashmir. He demanded implementation on Parliament resolutions.

    Imran Ismail, Corporator from New Delhi It was Indresh Kumar, who stepped forward for helping the widows of Kashmir on whose appeal he took 724 sewing machines to Kashmir. Similarly during the earth quake, again it was Indresh Kumar who took initiative to organize help to Kashmiri victims. Not a single Muslims leader came forward to help the Muslims in Kashmir, Ismail said raising questions over attempts to bracket Indresh Kumar in terrorist activities. He blamed the political leaders for misleading Muslims regarding RSS and Hindu organizations and its leaders like Indresh Kumar. These parties and leaders have created an atmosphere of doubt about the Muslims also, he said and added that this needed to be removed once again.

    Dr J K Jain of BJP said that the demand for autonomy for Kashmir was based on wrong premises. The Congress and other parties were trying to divide the society by spreading falsehood and misbelieve against each other.

    Indresh Kumar, Patron of the Manch, who could not make it to the program as his train was running behind the schedule, addressed the gathering on mobile phone. He blamed the government for playing dangerous game by blaming innocent Muslims and patriotic Hindus by falsely implicating them in terrorist activities in the country. Indresh Kumar said the anti-India elements and political parties were trying to mislead people in Kashmir. He also demanded scrapping of Article 370 which drove a wedge between people of the same land. This Article spread hatred and divided people. The MRM would carry forward this view to generate national and patriotic fervor in the country. Referring to the presence of large number of Muslims from various parts of the country Indresh Kumar expressed confidence that this movement would usher in a new era of brotherhood, peace, love and mutual understanding among the people of this country.

    On one hand we have so called secular political parties who’re all hell bent on abusing the Muslims like a vote bank and woo them by offering reservation. They’ve already divided the Hindus in the name of caste. On the other, we have RSS and its sister organisations which are working to eradicate caste-system from India and also integrate Muslims into mainstream nationalism. Those who are familiar with RSS volunteers or are associated with the activities undertaken by RSS’ sister organisations, have utmost respect for RSS. Millions of families are there whose kids have got education in schools run by RSS. It is for the media to show the truth, but when Media is itself marred with darkness (recall, Neera Radia tapes), then the lack of a nationalist media haunts the people. The people who want to break the nation, for their vote bank politics, or the so called intellectuals and mainstream media people have created a thick air of calumny against RSS obstructing the view of the common people, who’re not in direct or indirect contact with RSS’ and its sister organisations’ activities. They need to look beyond this evil design

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