The RSS Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh

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    They were responsible. Everyone condemned and asked for resignation. Big action taken No one defended. But why to say RSS is porn group and all are same ?

    if any Congress person was involved. Did anyone said All Congress and it's supporter are Pornstar and porn party supporter even when loads of big proved news are there ? few i mentioned in last post too.

    Check what Lemontree said. Indeed, he popped up this thread by making such statement........ Check Post No. 75.

    This thread was not for all that, But Few deliberately tried to hijack this thread.

    Who are bashing and who is giving Thanks ?? I don't want to talk anything bad about them, even i have seen many things....
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    That is true sir.

    But to let you know, I don't know if you remember from WAB; I come from a very politically active family. Though the family at the time was heavily Congress, it has really split with half of my family (with elder uncle) going to the Akalis. Even my other uncle, General Harbaksh's grand nephew is still with the Congress and is quite close with Maharani Praneet Kaur. In my recent visit back home, was quite happy expressing my opposition to both and rallying up everyone I could for the PPP (though I realize I wasn't taken seriously lol ). Politics is indeed a dirty game, but I try to play my part in shaping the perceptions and thinking of the people around me. That is how I try to ensure my backyard stays clean, but than we are small fish in a large pond.

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    It was more than irresponsible and utterly shameful. Watching porn is not illegal, but I cannot stem any respect for such people holding high offices. If one cannot have control on themselves over such a basic thing, what control would they offer while executing their duty? Can I say that they will not be tempted do something immoral/illegal whenever they can?

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    Tronic,

    I wish you well.

    Go and pursue your agenda.

    Amarinder Singh is my senior and an SCC.

    I wish him well too.

    My point is simple - we all innocents are not innocents, but are victims of the politicians fanning our favourite fears!
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    Use the ignore button as I have done.
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    Brigadier truth hurts and it even stings .My most importanat point is Hinduism in its current form is unworkable it has to reform and it has go drastic modifications and revolution .it has to be more egalitarian and establish institution which cater to the economic and living needs of the population.The missionaries in india established eductaional and medical institutions which are providing facilities to the population.What has the RSS or any other hindu organization got to offer?

    Barring ISKON and its Akshaya patra foundation is there anything the Hindu organizations catering to the masses nope

    Brigadier you are wise beyond and has wisdom .Look at the anguish and the facts my posts got to say for wisdom is what you posess and others don't in DFI.

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    All muslims are equal before god that is the reason and the other reason is In a gurudwara,mosque and Church the community congregates regularly every day/week and at some level there is a good amount of social bonding going on in the community .Where as in a temple most hindus themselves are outcasts and the priest is an idiot ,prick and retard compared to the priests of other religions who can arouse the community and do social work.

    Islam as a religion in power is highly intolerant but even in such environments christianity exists syria,jordan have substantial christian population
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    How many don't watch porn?

    How many married don't fantasise?

    But there is a place to do so, if one indeed wants to do so.

    Seeing porn, however, does not make one impotent to do his duty! Or be active on internet.

    Cross your heart, have you never seen porn?

    If so, join politics and be the next Mahatma Gandhi!

    Even the good old Mahatma was having sex while his father was on the deathbed or so I believe.

    So, who are we to judge.

    Yet, if one goes by the code of conduct, one should not see porn while on duty!

    Period!

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    Hinduism in current form is perfectly workable. It worked for last 5,000 years........But Christian + Islam in current form is surely not workable IMO.

    If anyone can abuse Brahmin, Then can i abuse Sunni Muslim or/and Catholic Christians with my unlimited reasons ? Will mod will come and say, I am being communal ?. Is bashing Hinduism is not communal ??
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    We come from different corners of this country, our thinking can never be the same. Anywho, I have been to Maharashtra, Nanded, Aurangabad, Malegaon and other cities in proximity, and than some in Karnataka side of border. I can clearly see the world of a difference and the segregated Hindu-Muslim communities in that part of India. Maybe my ignorance stems from the fact I'm from Punjab. Oh, we've got Muslims in Punjab too, but I've never seen them as segregated as I have down South. Infact, even the Muslims seem of a different stock, most of their women covered in Burqas, et all. I don't think I've seen a single Muslim woman in Punjab ever wear a Burqa (maybe a Hijab styled scarf on the head, but even that only restricted to the older aunties), the men do wear their muslim caps sometimes, but usually they wield the Muslim style turban, especially in Malerkotla. There is a big cultural difference I'll admit, and maybe that's why our perceptions are so different. Stay in touch, and I would actually love to host you in Punjab one day. In all seriousness, and with no hard feelings. Cheers!

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    I respect your reasons.

    Only problem I have with RSS is that they have plans for the whole of India. RSS mixed religion and nationalism when the two should not mix!

    To put things in retrospect, the Dal Khalsa too is an organization, similar in some ways to the RSS, except they claim to stand for Sikh issues. Now, that is all fine and dandy, but they too mix Sikhi with nationalism and stand for an independent Sikh nation, namely Khalistan!

    Now, the Dal Khalsa was never such a big player until the RSS chaps started to make a large presence in Punjab which has driven more Sikhs to support organizations like Dal Khalsa, and their numbers have swelled. More recently, Punjab has witnessed clashes between RSS supporters (supporting this Bihari godman, don't recall his name) and Dal Khalsa members. I have always grown up a leftist (not in the Indian sense, more like awwed by the guevaras and the castros), so I have never liked religious groups to start off with. But now, religious groups mixing in nationalism? Not good for India.

    That's my last word on the topic for the day.

    Adios!
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    All people are equal in front of God in ALL religions.

    In Hinduism, you have OBC Gods like Krishna, and heavens knows how many as I was reading in an article. I will confess I am not too conversant on Hinduism since the books and interpretations are too many for my rather limited mind storage system and it is too complicated!

    Why has Hinduism survived all the ravages of history?

    My take is different from other people who have commented and who have more knowledge than me on the issue.

    As a simple mind, unburdened in ravelling the complicated issues, I would say, unlike Islam, Christianity and others, which are regimented religions with strict codes of conduct, Hinduism is wayout and cool - do as you feel like.

    Pray if you want or don't pray. Go to temples if you want, or forget it if you don't. Marry with all the time consuming rituals or pay the priest to cut it short or even tailor make the funeral to your family's desire. In short, a cool way to exist and yet pretend all is well!

    If one is not subjugated to laws and boundaries and can feel free to do what one wants and without being ostracised, then one is allured.

    Hence, who wants to pray five times a day and then feel guilty for failing, or wear your best for the Sunday Church etc etc? And yet those who are in this rigid cycle cannot leave since the mind is indoctrinated and the guilt and shame is too overpowering!

    Which life did you like? A school or a college?

    I never got a chance.

    I was in an indoctrinated scene just after school and all through my life (Army).

    I am so indoctrinated that I cannot think beyond it.

    Some think I am but a fanatic beyond seeing the infallibilities of the system.

    I wonder who is right!
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    @ Tronic

    Fair Enough. But RSS is still a Hindu group.

    You said, Dal Khalsa. Sorry, never heard. How many people support it ? I suppose, negligible. Akali Dal do represent Sikh and it's with RSS and last time i checked, Badal was with RSS cadre Modi supporting him as P.M.

    I don't want to talk about Sikhism. Never did. Let me tell you, I know many Sikhs who are very pro-RSS too. RSS always believe in unification and division. Even, they have expansionism Even they blamed Congress for giving major chunk of Punjab and whole Sindh to Pak.

    I also didn't liked religious group. But Since The culture of India is Hinduism. Hence, RSS plays important role for the Nation. A RSS cadre became P.M and will become P.M., Large no. of people support RSS. You can't compare with Christians and Muslims groups. RSS don't have any role in Bangladesh or U.S. as they are Muslim and Christian majority country. So, Muslim + Christians also don't have major role in India. RSS was needed for the country due to demographic.

    Hasta pronto mi amigo !!
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    I have when I was a curious cat. Now the curiosity gone and proper thinking instilled in me (by own self, I have had no guiding persona), it disgusts me. It is matter of understanding that sexual desire is among those that has the greatest strength to drag you to the lowest level. Having realized that, I can now control myself to the extent I want. And it has allowed me to have more control over my mind. I can get aroused only when I want to get aroused. An ideal situation for every person, not just saints.

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    I still fell that religion is good, those who enforce rules are the ones who are the coots!

    And those who do not use their minds to see religion in the contemporary environment as brain denied and fanatical!

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