Christian population in Mumbai falls--muslim population fastest growing

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    I used to think Hindu right wing is not harmful to the country and they are just being demonized by the media. But ever since I started reading about their views from posts like these, I realize how dangerous and extreme this ideology actually is.

    Reminds me of a North Indian friend who told me South Indians would never be allowed to become PM

    People with very extreme ideologies often lack General Knowledge.

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    sure it is after all all indian Muslims are converts from Hindus. By the way my lineage is Rajput. Found that out a few months back.

    Muslims and Hindus wear the same clothes and eat the same food depending on the region they belong to.

    Yup we are a Hindu nation by all means culturally. Hinduism is a way of life!!

    About the second part regarding bollywood, I said it before that shows how our culture is. "Muslim" actors portraying "Hindu" characters!! Unity in diversity.
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    While on the topic of Bollywood, some of the best Bhajans and other "Hindu" religious songs praising the various Gods have been rendered by Mohammed Rafi, a Muslim.
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    As I said in my earlier post, the attempt to group all Muslims to explain the phenomenon of the partition is a fallacy. And doing so is tantamount to collective blame. I don't think anyone is denying the reality of the partition, but at the same time nobody is going to accept the sweeping generalization as being fact; because it isn't. The ideology of Pakistan was constructed by a small group of Muslim elite who attempted to promise Muslims a better future. However not all Muslims fell into these promises because the Islamic community in India is anything but a monolith (and as it turns out they were the lucky ones).

    I think you might have to settle for the non accept option here. I too find it impossible to agree with your statement that India was divided along religious lines between Hindus and Muslims. Pakistan may have been carved out as an Islamic republic, but India since it's inception has remained committed to secularism which caters to constituents from all religions. There hasn't been a single instance where India was designated or has existed as a Hindu state (as per your definition). As per your vision- legislating Hindu law and customs as the de facto law of the land is equitable to a theocracy. Lucky for India this bullet was averted and given the ground reality it seems unlikely it will ever happen.
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    @ energon

    I find it hilarious that you expected me to enumerate the view,regarding partition,of each and every single Muslim who lived in pre-partition India to be able to qualify to be representative of the Muslim communities overall opinion regarding the partition,you will agree with me here such an exercise is near impossible even in this age of massive communication advances let alone in 1947,i can assure no such sweeping data pertaining to the opinion of all indian Muslims regarding the partition plan exists anywhere.

    However to help evovle a overall picture of the general tilt of the Muslim population during the years running up to the partition,a cursory look at the results of the general election of 1945-46 to the central and provincial assemblies,will be rewarding.Just five years after adopting the Lahore resolution of 194(also known as the Pakistan resolution)wherein the Muslims league had demanded in unequivocal terms the establishing of sovereign Muslim state for the Muslims of the subcontinent,the league won all the 30 Muslim seats that had been reserved for the Muslims.The league scripted a similar,if not a clean sweep,success in the ensuing provincial election where it won overwhelming majority of all Muslim seats.

    The results of the general election,which all but ensured that the partition plan of 1947 was a mere formality,gives us certian picture of general Muslim thinking,which cannot by standard be considered as sweeping generalization.

    Facts elicited from history,not your opinion or for that mine,dictate vehemently that India ought to be Hindu state of a Hindu nation.Don't presume you can prophesy the future,who would have thought that a Hindu nationalist party,considering the fact that not a long while ago a secular centrist party commanded 3/4th majority in the parliament, would emerge as the significant other in India's near bi-polar political structure.Whatever the Hindu society may lack in elsewhere,they are rather extravagantly gifted by providence in one respect,tremendous patience.

    P.S:The Hindu laws are laws that regulate the social affairs of the Hindus,which is recognized by and even incorporated into the incumbent national constitution,how does that equate to theocracy.

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    Trolling? Lol. That's my job to say to people trolling here.

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    Hinduism as a religion wont survive in the modern world ; it doesnt offer much to the modern world.., 100-150 years from now would be drastic change in how religion is percieved by the masses. No religion can stand up to internet and mtv. Islam is like a lamp in a tornado, it is burning the brightest just before it fades away.
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    Is it only me or anyone else who hasn't understood this rant.

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    Couldn't disagree more. Hinduism is very much capable of remaining relevant for the foreseeable future given that it is a dynamic entity. As the nation in general prospers and the level of education increases the unsavory and archaic remnants of the religion will melt away (this has happened in every progressive society thus far). There is bound to be a change in the outlook. Furthermore the adherence to the rule of law and independent judicial conduct thereby relegating religion entirely to the social realm (as opposed to government) will give Hindus greater freedom to submerge themselves in their faith without having to carry the burden of the past social ills. Mind you this argument is applicable to the practitioners of any faith. Access to the internet and cable TV isn't mutually exclusive with the practice of a religion; it is not a zero sum game by any means. Hindus are very much attached to their faith and are highly unlikely to give it up.

    What we are witnessing with Islam is an entirely different situation which is beyond the scope of this argument.
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    Radical Hindus, radical Muslims, and radical Christians should all kill each other so normal people like myself can live in peace.

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    The internet, mtv (and other mass media) cut both ways. It actually simplifies the delivery and magnifies the effect of an 'opiate' to the 'masses'

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    Well if that is the case, why is Hinduism on the decline, its numbers are declining. There are issues within the Hindu community which is creating conduicive situations for other religions to poach as well as Hindu's themselves feeling dejected at the status quo
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    It's not an organized fath and proselytization is not part of it's doctrine

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