Right wing extremism.

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    1. & 3. The state has enforced a minimum age limit to get married.
    2. The Mumbai High Court has already passed a judgement regarding this.
    4. If you consider Marriage to be a religious rite, and follow injunctions regarding it; and then you ought to treat consider religious injunctions regarding its dissolution. Else frame up a pre-nup agreement or get married in a court.

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    I don't know if muslims consider it unjust or not but because state has made it illegal. Personal laws cannot override what the state deems unfit.

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    The personal law boards have helped in ensuring that the state doesn't intervene in your marriage.

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    I didn't understand your point ?

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    The state took a more libertarian approach.
    If you wish to follow your religious beliefs in regards to your personal matters such as marriage, divorce and succession then you should be able to do so, provided you follow certain conditions.

    If you wish you can customize your divorce and succession using a pre-nuptial agreement and will respectively. This is again a choice given to the citizens.

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    You are confusing a few issues.

    I want intelligentsia to be a part to make sure clerics wouldn't automatically be thrust as leaders, and orthodoxy wouldn't be allowed to reign.

    I can't say for modern or rational, but if any practice is inhumane or unjust then the state intervenes. And if the intelligentsia ensures that the personal law boards organically evolve then nothing like it.

    Removal of personal laws and imposition of UCC in India, would do more harm than good imo.

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    Article 44 of the Indian Constitution says “The state shall endeavour to secure for the citizens a uniform civil code throughout the territory of India”

    There you have it. Sorted.

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    Thinking about it .To counter Missionary activities in India .Spreading the message of Navayana is the only method.Let all dalits be Neo-Buddhists (practicising) ones to be precise.Thinking about it Maharasthra is the only state where the Missionairies cannot enter thanks to Ambedhkar(not RSS).Ambedhkar definetly is the ultimate nationalist

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    Again dont mix up Culture and Civil laws. Civil laws concern the inheritance of properties, legality of marriage and others. I dont know about Sikh culture or tradition, I am damn sure, UCC does not make you guys to say mantra and make you lot tie a mangal sutra with three knots as the Hindus do. Nor does the UCC going to say "how" muslims should conduct their ceremony. Is this simple example enough to make you understand the difference between cultural autonomy and unified Civil laws?

    Point being? because this line is in direct confrontation with your statement regarding UCC- in which you claimed UCC will be seen by muslims as infringement on their rights.

    Really? And UCC is going to interfere in your marriage by giving you instructions on how you do your marriage(or how muslims should do their marriage) by asking you lot to tie three knots right?

    Cultural autonomy and UCC are Strawman comparisons to say the least.

    You wont

    Yep If he can want to marry whomever he wants, whatever way he wants by whatever way he wants within the UCC. For instance, If i have a belief that I should have two wives, since lord Krishna had two wives, Then I should be considered a nutcase> But then again by your defn of religious autonomy, I should be allowed to have two wives citing religious beliefs>

    But then again you said something about provided you follow "certain conditions" right?- That "certain conditions" is what we FFing call as UCC-Just making a point

    Yep we should do this for the Hindu law too. Make it possible for the Hindus to say triple talaq and divorce the women and then give them pice of crap as alimony as per Islamic laws, as you rightly said, Hindusim is a religion of Tolerance

    He is not. Its quite the opposite really!!!

    And unjust and inhumane and being rational or modern are two different things right

    Yep it will harm the Communal pigs more than the secular ones

    For Instance , they have successfully seperated out the Sikhs from the majority identity and the UCC identity . Next It will be jains and then budhists in that order. And sure it does more good to the country

    One thing is sure. My words are a waste of space in this forum really, since its pretty useless to argue with some one pretending to be asleep.

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    Typical Bull shit by the Left wing extremists


    This is what it says. Read the under lined part
    Taking lines out of context now?

    Here is what it means. It means that UCC cant be enforced by court, but the State should enact laws to ensure UCC, That is pass legislation, That is after making the Laws, the court can enforce it, just like any law

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    To correct these minority appeasers is the only way to counter propaganda. Well done MI.
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    You've nailed it.
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    Maddy, as much as we sit on opposite poles, I have to acknowledge you have some great qualities. You never give up, and you are spirited. You are quite an intelligent chap. Keep it up.

    P.S.: Not giving you the license to hurl expletives though.

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    Article 44 remains the only directive principle of the Indian Constitution under which no action has been taken for six decades after the Bharata republic was formed. That would be the cue for the LWEs to start screaming about why the BJP could not do it during the six years they had. Which brings us to the issue that the BJP should ally only with those parties with which it shares a common philosophical base.
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    karthic Iam hearing bjp is picking up strength in South T.N

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    that will be good news if it happens and do provide some source when it happens

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    Thats true, thanks to Evangelicals

    BJP is particularly strong in Nagerkovil, and you know why

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    They where no relevent till now because people here did not have reason to support them,

    But all credit goes to Suckulars and christian missionary who are in full swing trying to convert people every day now people see why they need to support BJP who are real secular.
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