At what stage can the fetus be considered a human being ? when the sperm is within the egg or afterwards ?
does anyone care about the rights of the unborn child ?
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As far as I am concerned life begins at birth. The fetus, for all intents and purposes, is the same organism as the mother. A union of two cells is not what constitutes a human being, it is just the first step in a long and complex process.
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At what stage does the fetus become a human being ? Quite clearly the baby is human being before it is born. I mean is the baby not a human being a week before the eventual birth ?Originally Posted by civfanatic
As far as I am concerned life begins at birth. The fetus, for all intents and purposes, is the same organism as the mother; it cannot survive independently until birth. A union of two cells is not what constitutes a human being, it is just the first step in a long and complex process.
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i can explain something, abortion can only be done before 3 months approx.
In Quran Allah said that after certain period which is 3 months approx a fetus should considered a human being because it carrying a soul.
I can post some videos to you of Mr zakir which i know you may not like it.
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Yes spare us mr. zakiri can explain something, abortion can only be done before 5 months approx.
In Quran Allah said that after certain period which is 5 months approx a fetus should considered a human being because it carrying a soul.
I can post some videos to you of Mr zakir which i know you may not like it.
That 5 months must have been decided on some scientific study or observation rather than a wild guess at a drop of a hat. Bring forward that scientific study. I dont know about others but i dont go on the words of religious books on blind faith.
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Abortion can be done as late as 5th month of pregnancy
But for Medical termination of pregnancy, upto 3 months, any one RMP(registered medical practitioners) can do it provided they meet the necessary qualification as per the Medical termination of pregnancy act of 1971( MTP act of 1971)
For fetuses more than 3 months old. two RMPs are required
Here is the cite for details regarding it
http://www.legalservicesindia.com/articles/pregact.htm
Last edited by Mad Indian; 22-02-12 at 03:14 AM.
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"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
A fetus becomes a human being once it is viable, meaning it can survive outside of the uterus. Usually this occurs by the third trimester, at which point we can no longer perform an abortion (under normal circumstances).At what stage does the fetus become a human being ? Quite clearly the baby is human being before it is born. I mean is the baby not a human being a week before the eventual birth ?
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Actually this is a five mark question for us in the Forensic Medicine,,, Here are the grounds on which abortions can be done in india
1. Eugenic reasons.... That is the child is genetically defective, it is highly defective that, it cant survive in this society without being a burden on itself....
2. Socio economic reason- If the child is unexpected and is going the be a burden on the family which cant support it.... imagine a parent of five kids already and porr and becoming pregnant again
3. Humanitarian reasons.... that is if the pregnancy is because of rape
4. Contraceptive failure- Rupture of condoms, Failure of vasectomy etc.....
5. Medical grounds- that is the pregnancy causes significant problem to the mother and may lead to life threatening complications if continued
any way there are no other grounds which can be cited as the reason for Abortion
Last edited by Mad Indian; 22-02-12 at 08:02 PM.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except every other type of government which has been tried" - Winston Churchill
"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
And i personally believe we should liberalise the abortion more without preventing the abortion of the girl child.....
If we are gonna make the Abortions stricter, it will lead to several problems on the society...
It will cause the population to sort to non medical methods which will lead to worsening of the health situation of the population.... Actually the MTP act of 1971 was introduced to check the unsafe abortions
http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-F...e1-330041.aspx
Last edited by Mad Indian; 22-02-12 at 03:16 AM.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except every other type of government which has been tried" - Winston Churchill
"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
And my personal opinion lets not make the country much more conservative than it already is please?????
For a conservative- Stem cell research is bad , cloning is bad, Abortion(even aborting the medical risk cases) is bad... WTH, some idiotic conservatives dont even want a medical delivery to happen... Contraception is bad for some Catholics(i mean not all but some nutjobs)....
Now is that stance gonna do any good for the country....?????
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except every other type of government which has been tried" - Winston Churchill
"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
The Mother is free to do with "it" as she pleases, It's her body.
She Should not be forced to carry it to term, against her own wish.
However if the procedure endangers the mother. No Medical practitioner should be allowed to perform the procedure as it endangers the patients life.
If she chooses to attempt to or try to after that point, she should be placed under suicide watch.
*Only under extreme circumstances should abortions be illegal
If eugenics is an issue , a much better way counter it, is by controlling what information doctors are allowed to reveal about the unborn child to their parents
Just limit information to probable future complications.
To be exact, the baby becomes viable after 28 weeks(7 months) and weighs over 1000g.... Medical termination of pregnancy is illegal at this stage as it is dangerous to the fetus and the mother!!!!At what stage does the fetus become a human being ? Quite clearly the baby is human being before it is born. I mean is the baby not a human being a week before the eventual birth ?
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except every other type of government which has been tried" - Winston Churchill
"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
agreed on most parts, but cant understand this part...!!!! what do you mean in these statements....????If eugenics is an issue , a much better way counter it, is by controlling what information doctors are allowed to reveal about the unborn child to their parents
Just limit information to probable future complications.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except every other type of government which has been tried" - Winston Churchill
"Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around"
I think we should seriously debate unwanted pregnancy as a consequence of rape.
I don't quite like the framing of this sentence. It is rhetorical.
"Yes, abortion can be done at the whims of the mother"
It is not whim. Destroying one's baby in not always whim.
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. - Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
I would not know.
However, the Pope feels so!
I however don't think he would know since he has no experience of the same!
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