Pak needs mini-nukes to deter India

[Rowdy]

Did you change the weed brand? How are they going to provide cover to terrorists with nuke bombs? Are you trying to introduce a hitherto unknown suicide bomber (diff being he has a nuke bomb to blow up) Enter the sophisticated suicide bomber.

Simple ... they carryout terror attacks a la mumbai and India cant retaliate because they have tactical nukes. They always reduce the intensity of conflict.

The solution is not to raise the intensity of conflict, but to reduce it further. Like funding TTP.

 

[Rashna]

That is something they tried before they got tactical nukes. And they are still reeling after the world wide humiliation caused to their reputation. Then they had the Abottabad shocker which has further made it quite open to the world how complicit they are in supporting and spreading terrorism whilst getting paid for being part of the War on Terror. All this was pre tactical nukes. They accuse india of keeping them engaged in low grade warfare. They on the other hand are still sending terrorists in to J&K and skirmishes there are commonplace. This has all been going on forever. Their tactical nukes haven't really given them any advantage they didn't possess earlier. Short of declaring war on India, no weapon tactical or otherwise is of any use to them. And 99% it is highly unlikely that India will start any war with Pakistan. Given this scenario i have a feeling these tactile nukes are for sale to non nuclear muslim sates. And this is also the reason the US is sounding jittery about them falling in to the wrong hands. Therefore India is the ruse, the real reason for having so many nuclear weapons is simple, sell them to the highest bidder and make billions.

Simple ... they carryout terror attacks a la mumbai and India cant retaliate because they have tactical nukes. They always reduce the intensity of conflict.

The solution is not to raise the intensity of conflict, but to reduce it further. Like funding TTP.

 

[roma]

i saw some photos of the 1971 conflict and out victory then

it is tempting to always keep going back to those days
i feel however that we are overemphasizing and hyping our good fortune
although it is true india won overwhelmingly, there was a lot of good fortune o our side too,
without which the victory would still have been ours but not quite as spectacular

but we need to move out of that mind -set - those scenarios are not valid today !
pak with its nuke first policy is not going to be the same as pak of 1971. obviously

nevertheless their policy of hiding their nukes mini or otherwise , from NATO
will cost them highly - both in terms of money and also the health of their personnel
driving those vehicles around !

 

[Rashna]

What about your leaders who talk of ham bhi aloo gosht khatein hain aur aap bhi, aap bhi rab ko maante hain ham bhi? You know what your bravado will one lead to your annihilation. Hindu civilization is still going strong after your clans attacked it. What does that tell you? That a Hindu is stubborn as hell, maybe appearing to be harmless but learning from the past and ensuring that their kindness is never taken advantage of ever again. From the way you talk i know its your pakistani DNA speaking. lol. Remember that dreaming is good however if you wake up during your dream you shouldn't feel you had a nightmare.
India is pakistan's nightmare and no nukes can save you from this nightmare.

For all its belligerence, the hindu nationalist BJP has always surrendered to Pakistan. After Kargil, they begged Pakistan and invited their leader (and had a love affair at Taj Mahal, lol). After parliament attack, the hindu nationalists spoke brave words but surrendered again without a whimper. Point is, Hindus usually talk boldly but lag behind in delivery. History will attest to that. So no one fears India, least of all Pakistan which has put India in its place since 1947. Everyone in the world knows that Hindus, even the nationalist types, can easily be bullied or bought or tamed. That's why India is not respected anywhere.

 

[Ray]

Pakistan doesn't need nukes to frighten India. Even if Pakistan doesn't have a single nuke, even if Pakistan only has a poor military, India would still be frightened. This fear is based on history. Since Hindus have always lost wars to Muslims - historical fact, not my personal view - this fear of losing to Pakistan will always be there for most Indians.

If you disagree, ask yourself why even the so-called nationalist hindu party like the BJP has always fallen at Pakistan's feet and begged for a reprieve? Why even these staunch hindutva clowns get jittery and surrender to pakistan? It is because historically, Hindus have always surrendered to Muslims - in modern times, that's just playing out as India vs Pakistan.

Are you the agent of Pakistan?

Further, you are totally meandering, hallucinating, totally asinine blather without any substantiation and acting the goat and getting everyone's goat.

You are living a charmed life, since some Fairy Godmother is not sending you back to where you belong.

Will that Fairy Godmother also wake up and smell the coffee?

 

[blueblood]

Are you the agent of Pakistan?

Further, you are totally meandering, hallucinating, totally asinine blather without any substantiation and acting the goat and getting everyone's goat.

You are living a charmed life, since some Fairy Godmother is not sending you back to where you belong.

Will that Fairy Godmother also wake up and smell the coffee?

No sir, according to him, he is a Brahmin youngster from Chennai who got discriminated by Delhi girls for his darker colour, IIRC. He is neither a Pakistani nor a Muslim and also I am the next Pope.

 

[Ray]

No sir, according to him, he is a Brahmin youngster from Chennai who got discriminated by Delhi girls for his darker colour, IIRC. He is neither a Pakistani nor a Muslim and also I am the next Pope.

Well, on the cyberspace, one can claim that one is God descended on Earth.

He is one such oddity foisted on us, who is delusionary and hallucination in broad daylight.

He is of the ilk of Yasin Malik, who milks India of its munificence and at the same time, breathes fire.

Opportunist of a high treachery index.

I heard a Hindi dialogue in a film - kok men saanp janam diya hai.

If you observe this post of his

Pakistan doesn't need nukes to frighten India. Even if Pakistan doesn't have a single nuke, even if Pakistan only has a poor military, India would still be frightened. This fear is based on history. Since Hindus have always lost wars to Muslims - historical fact, not my personal view - this fear of losing to Pakistan will always be there for most Indians.

If you disagree, ask yourself why even the so-called nationalist hindu party like the BJP has always fallen at Pakistan's feet and begged for a reprieve? Why even these staunch hindutva clowns get jittery and surrender to pakistan? It is because historically, Hindus have always surrendered to Muslims - in modern times, that's just playing out as India vs Pakistan.

He states - Even if Pakistan doesn't have a single nuke, even if Pakistan only has a poor military, India would still be frightened. This fear is based on history.

The man is rapturous over past 'history'. Poor soul, he lives in the Past and not the Present. The present history, this poor sod does not register that Pakistan have been kicked in the teeth every time it waged war.

Therefore, his statement indicates he is a Pakistan or a Pakistani agent.

 

[rock127]

No sir, according to him, he is a Brahmin youngster from Chennai who got discriminated by Delhi girls for his darker colour, IIRC. He is neither a Pakistani nor a Muslim and also I am the next Pope.

Here is the @genius

 

[debasree]

Pakis shurely use nukes against advancing Indian armour in paji soil and India will have to think to counter it massive air strike may be option for this we need to add more fighters in iaf let's bomb them to stone age with conventional weapons and all so massive bombardment from sea assets

 

[Anikastha]

Its not too late for pakistan ....Let them read INDIAN NUCLEAR DOCTRINE carefully.....We've clearly stated that we will use nuclear weapons only when we are striked by nukes. ...If nuclear attck on india( whether it is mini nuke or big one)
we will reply in same language which will turn pakistan into nuclear waste land...We have ABM and scientists are trying to improve its efficiency..Oh sorry I just forgot that they just kids ....give them lollypop..

 

[blueblood]

Here is the @genius

Come on man, that's slandering, I won't stand for it.

 

[roma]

These nukes are not to deter India. They are to provide cover/shelter to terrorists.

Simple ... they carryout terror attacks a la mumbai and India cant retaliate because they have tactical nukes. They always reduce the intensity of conflict.
The solution is not to raise the intensity of conflict, but to reduce it further. Like funding TTP.

Pakis shurely use nukes against advancing Indian armour in paji soil and India will have to think to counter it massive air strike may be option for this we need to add more fighters in iaf let's bomb them to stone age with conventional weapons and all so massive bombardment from sea assets

Its not too late for pakistan ....Let them read INDIAN NUCLEAR DOCTRINE carefully.....We've clearly stated that we will use nuclear weapons only when we are striked by nukes. ...If nuclear attck on india( whether it is mini nuke or big one)
we will reply in same language which will turn pakistan into nuclear waste land...We have ABM and scientists are trying to improve its efficiency..Oh sorry I just forgot that they just kids ....give them lollypop..

tsk tsk tsk, ..... guys, guys - packland ( referred to henceforth alternatively as Isi-stan ) or
the land of the inter-services "intelligence" ( not really very intelligent )
doesnt deserve all the thought that went into cold start doctrine and policies of that level of thinking

neither do we need to retaliate by nuking them ....heck they dont deserve our quality nukes
there is a saying advising us not to cast pearls before swi..... and for that isi-stan "might" ( i said "might" )
qualify if they keep up they addiction to nukes

what india needs as antidote to isi-stan is not cold-start ,
but rather a simplistic tit for tat , which a 10 year old indian kid could figure-out
......... and that is the essence of the sophistication packland's war doctrine

first we need to shed our super-pacifist policies !, when it comes to isi-land
and indeed others who would plan harm against us .....and tats includes our
bhai-bhai ( bye-bye ) neighbour to the north-east as well .

what we need to seriously do is to have a couple of institutes of strategic thinking regarding balouchistan,
WFP, sindhu-desh and gilgit-baltistan .....( if only our great Mr J Nehru had such resources at hand )

these proposed strategic institutes will think out strategies to help the oppressed in those areas

our member @Rowdy wrote above that we can fund TTP - ,
well im not sure if TTP is the right organization,
but basically you get his idea !

we can ramp up the level of sophistication and do something really worthwhile along those lines

it's about time this goi did something along those lines .......but i understand they're only a year in office
so we need some patience, and that's fine ....they will do well !

we cant be the only Gandhi nation in the region where everyone else is behaving like
a Mao and a JInn(ah) ....

we need to give them a taste ......of their own !

 

[Ray]

To all,

do keep me informed everytime this ass @genius goes off the rocker.

 

[Ray]

@Rashna,

I have no time for 'hero worshipping' or acquiring 'gurus' to bring solace to the tormented soul.

Gandhi served his purpose and was duly projected as the one who gave India its freedom and Nehru as the sole saviour, with others being hanger ons.

However, things are changing and all are getting their due in the freedom struggle, a fact suppressed to give Gandhi Nehru the sole piece of the cake.

Gandhi said Partition over his Dead Body. He proved to be a false 'God'. Partition came and he was gleefully delighted. Millions died. Millions were homeless and deprived. It was Bengal and Punjab alone that took the brunt. Rest of India rejoiced and accepted the fairy tale spun by the Nehru Gandhi lobby that they alone were the architect and saviour of India and it Independence.

The truth is unravelling and the false propaganda is being exposed.

This is contrary to historiographers' interpretations of Indian freedom struggle. It was not because of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, but because of Subhas Chandra Bose the British left India.

This would certainly be a great surprise to those who believe in Nehruvian interpretation of history. But the fact of the matter is that this was the truth.

It was one of the best kept secrets till date, thanks to Jawaharlal Nehru and his Congress.

It was the year 1956. Justice Phani Bhusan Chakravartti, then Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court, asked visiting British Prime Minister Clement Atlee about why the Britishers left India.

Atlee said

Clement Atlee was asked that why did you (the British) leave India, after all you had won the Second World War. The burst was over since then. The Quit India Movement was a flop in 1942. So what was the tearing hurry in 1947 that you decided to leave the country immediately?

Then British Prime Minister replied it was (because of) the spark that Subhas Chandra Bose created among the soldiers of Indian Army. Atlee said, 'It was the threat of Subhas Bose and the rise of Indian nationalism from which we understood that it was a matter of time'."

This was also aired by AIR.

it is time to call the bluff.

 

[Peter]

Pakistan doesn't need nukes to frighten India. Even if Pakistan doesn't have a single nuke, even if Pakistan only has a poor military, India would still be frightened. This fear is based on history. Since Hindus have always lost wars to Muslims - historical fact, not my personal view - this fear of losing to Pakistan will always be there for most Indians.

If you disagree, ask yourself why even the so-called nationalist hindu party like the BJP has always fallen at Pakistan's feet and begged for a reprieve? Why even these staunch hindutva clowns get jittery and surrender to pakistan? It is because historically, Hindus have always surrendered to Muslims - in modern times, that's just playing out as India vs Pakistan.

This is not a Hindu Muslim issue but an India Pakistan one. India is a secular republic FYI. You are actually trying to make it a Hindu Muslim issue so that you can get sympathy from Muslim members in DFI.
You are hellbent on proving that we would stoop to the level of pakis and post the nonsense which they generally do. Sadly you have failed again.

 

[Ray]

This is not a Hindu Muslim issue but an India Pakistan one. India is a secular republic FYI. You are actually trying to make it a Hindu Muslim issue so that you can get sympathy from Muslim members in DFI.
You are hellbent on proving that we would stoop to the level of pakis and post the nonsense which they generally do. Sadly you have failed again.

You must cater for his infantile under developed mind to realise he is a fool.

No Indian Muslim is as stupid as him.

Do not underestimate the genuine India Muslim.

 

[Sylex21]

Pakistan doesn't need nukes to frighten India. Even if Pakistan doesn't have a single nuke, even if Pakistan only has a poor military, India would still be frightened. This fear is based on history. Since Hindus have always lost wars to Muslims - historical fact, not my personal view - this fear of losing to Pakistan will always be there for most Indians.

If you disagree, ask yourself why even the so-called nationalist hindu party like the BJP has always fallen at Pakistan's feet and begged for a reprieve? Why even these staunch hindutva clowns get jittery and surrender to pakistan? It is because historically, Hindus have always surrendered to Muslims - in modern times, that's just playing out as India vs Pakistan.

Obvious troll of complete lunatic. Not even worth responding to seriously.

 

[no smoking]

Its not too late for pakistan ....Let them read INDIAN NUCLEAR DOCTRINE carefully.....We've clearly stated that we will use nuclear weapons only when we are striked by nukes.

Well, the Pakistan makes it very clear they will use nukes if they are going to lose a big part of their territory. Unless you are calling them bluffing, then this will prevent another 1971 war for them.

...If nuclear attck on india( whether it is mini nuke or big one)
we will reply in same language which will turn pakistan into nuclear waste land...

Based on the nuclear stock on both sides, that is pretty much what will look like of India land.

We have ABM and scientists are trying to improve its efficiency..Oh sorry I just forgot that they just kids ....give them lollypop..

First, your ABM is still decades from battle ready;
Second, you two are too close, there is no warning time for your ABM to get prepared;
Third, their scientists are also working on improving their missile's capability to penetrate your ABM, that is lots easier and lots cheaper.

 

[prohumanity]

Paranoid Pakis ..poodles and slaves of their donors are shitting in their pants. Cold start can put cold water on their sinister dreams against India. Neither their Uncle not their father-king can save them from mighty Indian military and will of 1.2 billion peace-loving Indian people. They should keep hanging heads down and keep standing with their begging bowls in front of White House and Saudi Royal palace.

 

[sgarg]

Karachi is called city of death where thousands die a violent death every year due to mafia or sectarian violence. All major Pakistani cities lack security for ordinary citizens. This is a country low on education and hygiene. I guess talking about "nukes" makes a Pakistani "feel important" as nothing else is there to even register presence of Pakistan on the world map.

I can understand Pakistani mind. It is a country of fools and fools love to rush to their deaths.