Iranian guards kill Pakistani soldier near border

[Free Karma]

Iranian guards kill Pakistani soldier near border - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Iranian border guards attacked a vehicle of Frontier Corps, a para-military force, inside Pakistani territory killing one personnel and injured another three on Friday morning.

Khan Wasey, the Spokesman FC told Dawn.com that Iranian border guards have been violating Pakistani territory since the past two days. He said the FC's vehicle was also damaged during the attack.

The injured personnel were rushed to Quetta for medical treatment.

Wasey said that Iranian border guards entered inside Pakistani territory and attacked the FC vehicle in Mand Tehsil of Balochistan's Kech district.

In another incident, Wasey said 30 Iranian border guards entered into Pakistan's town of Nokundi which borders Iran and made the residents of a nearby village hostage for six hours.

"They subjected the residents to physiological torture and then left," he said.

Inspector General Frontier Corps, Major General Ejaz Shahid, strongly condemned the infiltration of Iranian guards and vowed to defend the border in the case of future violation.

Additional FC personnel were called in the area to avoid occurrence of another untoward incident and overall security was tightened at the porous 900km border between the two countries.

FC and Home and Tribal Affairs Department Balochistan have informed the Foreign Office with regard to recent violations by Iranian border guards, an officer of the Home Department, who declined to be named told Dawn.com.

Within next few days a formal protest is going to be lodged with Iranian high-ranking officials, he added.

Panic prevailed in Pakistan border towns in the aftermath of Iranian infiltration in the area and their continued attacks.

I suppose Pakistan will complain to UN/U.S/P5/OIC.

 

[ladder]

Pakistan attacked from all sides?

 

[ezsasa]

Any idea if this kind of thing happened in the last 10 years?
if not then i would believe that Iran-US nuclear deal is confirmed in the near future.

 

[tramp]

Mods please merge this thread with 'Idiotic Pakistani musings' because it is already posted there. Thanks.

 

[datguy79]

Iranian guards kill Pakistani soldier near border - Pakistan - DAWN.COM



I suppose Pakistan will complain to UN/U.S/P5/OIC.

Pakistan doesn't care about FC

 

[pmaitra]

Mods please merge this thread with 'Idiotic Pakistani musings' because it is already posted there. Thanks.

Iranian guards killing a Pakistani soldier is worth a thread, and I don't see how this incident is "Idiotic Pakistani Musing."

 

[IBSA]

Iran and India should set an alliance to free Balochistan and Kashmir respectively by joint operations against Pakistan in the two borders

Pakistan wouldnt resist to fight two fronts at same time. There are yet the actions of Taliban along of Afghan border. That means three fronts, though Taliban struggle is a particular one and dont be part of such anti-Pak alliance..

And China could not to do anything against Iranian engagement against Pak since the chinos depends of Iranian gas.

 

[Zebra]

PressTV - Tehran to act if Islamabad refuses to secure border: Iran general

Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:7AM GMT

Iran will step in to contain terrorists if Pakistan refuses to take measures in order to secure its borders to keep terrorists from slipping into the Islamic Republic, a senior Iranian military commander says.

"We believe that every country should respect its commitments vis-à-vis its own internal security as well as that of neighboring countries. Border security is a common and pressing need for neighboring countries. We are, in principle, against intervening in the affairs of any country, but if they fail to abide by their obligations we will have [no choice but] to act," the second-in-command of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Hossein Salami, said on Thursday.

"Terrorists, wherever they may be, even on the soil of neighboring countries, we will find them, and if they do not give up acts of terrorism, we will deal with them without reservation," the senior commander added.

"One of the prerequisites of establishing security is possessing complete intelligence," he said, adding that the IRGC has an intimate knowledge of the status of terrorist groups in the region.

"We monitor all activities by terrorists," Salami said, adding, "Establishing an intelligence control is the best strategy which can contribute to the promotion of security."

Three Iranian police officers were killed when they, along with other patrol police forces, came under attack by armed bandits while on a mission in the city of Saravan in the southeastern province of Sistan-Baluchestan last week.

Another police officer was killed after an explosives-laden car taken to the police station by the same terrorists went off hours after the first incident.

Iranian security forces have apprehended a number of perpetrators behind the recent killings.

Iran and Pakistan signed a security agreement in February 2013, under which both countries are required to cooperate in preventing and combating organized crime, fighting terrorism and countering the activities that pose a threat to the national security of either country.

Iran has repeatedly called on Pakistan to comply with the terms of the agreement.

IA/NN/KA

 

[Zebra]

Iran again warns of crossing into Pakistan if border is not secured – The Express Tribune


By Web Desk
Published: October 17, 2014

Iran issued a veiled threat to Pakistan on Thursday that it might cross the border to contain terrorists if Pakistan fails protect its border and stop terrorists from entering into Iran......

 

[SADAKHUSH]

Iran and India should set an alliance to free Balochistan and Kashmir respectively by joint operations against Pakistan in the two borders

Pakistan wouldnt resist to fight two fronts at same time. There are yet the actions of Taliban along of Afghan border. That means three fronts, though Taliban struggle is a particular one and dont be part of such anti-Pak alliance..

And China could not to do anything against Iranian engagement against Pak since the chinos depends of Iranian gas.

I think the attitude of China towards her neignbour is rubbing on the Pakistani rulers. They are making enemy of their last remaining border country. It is a good news for us. Three neighbours can open the fronts from three sides to teach them a lesson for life and wipe off the name Pakistan from the world map.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

I think the attitude of China towards her neignbour is rubbing on the Pakistani rulers. They are making enemy of their last remaining border country. It is a good news for us. Three neighbours can open the fronts from three sides to teach them a lesson for life and wipe off the name Pakistan from the world map.

iran army is not very strong (sanctions) so they would rely more on proxy which is good thing for us. this will make them to fan baloch issue alongside india resulting in further disintegration of pak.

 

[Virendra]

I thought the Iranian border with Pakistan was fenced already?
Pakistan is leaking insurgents in all directions. There would be a fallout; not everybody favors so much restrain as India.

 

[vishwaprasad]

I would really love to see a full fledge war between Pak-Iran, its a childhood dream of military enthusiastic inside me.... But sadly I have to admit that Pak have an edge over Iran if it comes to war, F-16s, Agostas, Babur cruise missile, Much better tanks and artillery , Awacs almost in everything...

 

[tramp]

Iran will not be an easy walkover for Pakistan. After being under constant Western sanctions, Iran has developed an impressive weaponry, especially missiles and drones. Of course they have not been tested in battle. But that also gives them an edge, because their potential is not yet known to outside world.
Also, do not count out covert Russian backing to defeat US-Saudi nexus. Putin might be itching to get back at the US for the sanctions Moscow has been placed under. May be Moscow's power might be diminished because of the sanctions.
And India could also have some covert hand in favour of Iran where we have built a port as a gateway to Afghanistan and central Asia.
So the outcome is not a foregone conclusion to me. It could at best be a stalemate.

I would really love to see a full fledge war between Pak-Iran, its a childhood dream of military enthusiastic inside me.... But sadly I have to admit that Pak have an edge over Iran if it comes to war, F-16s, Agostas, Babur cruise missile, Much better tanks and artillery , Awacs almost in everything...

 

[vishwaprasad]

Iran will not be an easy walkover for Pakistan. After being under constant Western sanctions, Iran has developed an impressive weaponry, especially missiles and drones. Of course they have not been tested in battle. But that also gives them an edge, because their potential is not yet known to outside world.
Also, do not count out covert Russian backing to defeat US-Saudi nexus. Putin might be itching to get back at the US for the sanctions Moscow has been placed under. May be Moscow's power might be diminished because of the sanctions.
And India could also have some covert hand in favour of Iran where we have built a port as a gateway to Afghanistan and central Asia.
So the outcome is not a foregone conclusion to me. It could at best be a stalemate.

Agree with you that Iran is not easy walk over but if war erupts (even full fledge) then it will be limited on borders only, air border, water and land.... here Pak will have an edge. They have better fighters under Awacs umbrella, F-16 armed with AIM-120 C operating under Awacs guidance will wreck havoc on sanctioned Iran air force. Iran navy will be suffering huge losses due to newly acquired F-22 and Agostas, P3 Orions of PN etc. For tank and artillery Pak even match India let alone Iran... I am not even talking about their short rage - long range ballistic missiles and cruise missiles....so this war if limited on borders then Pak has more chances to win.... Sad but true....

Pak undestands only Indian language which was shown to them in recent skirmishes

 

[Free Karma]

Pakistan asks Iran not to "externalise" its problems - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

"It is not helpful to externalise problems. We need to focus on eliminating terrorism from our countries," Foreign Office spokesperson Tasnim Aslam said at the weekly media briefing.

She was responding to Iranian threat of hot pursuit of militants allegedly launching cross-border attacks on Iran's border posts from their sanctuaries in Balochistan province of Pakistan.

Also read: Analysis: Pakistan and Iran: Friends or foes?

Militants belonging to Jaishul Adl have stepped up attacks on Iranian posts along Pakistan-Iran border over the past fortnight. The attacks prompted Iranian officials to ask Pakistan to control the activity on its border or allow them (Iranian border guards) to take action.

"The Pakistani government has practically no control over the border areas, and if they really cannot control the common border, they should tell us so that we ourselves can take action," an Iranian official was quoted by Iranian media as having said.

Ms Aslam did not outrightly deny cross-border activity and asked Iran to share available evidence with Pakistan.

"There may be cross-border activities or other transnational crimes like narcotic and drug trafficking," she said. "We believe that if Iran has evidence that elements from Pakistan are involved in activities against Iran, they should share it with us". (same old BS :ranger

The spokesperson asked Tehran to use the border management committee of the two countries for investigating the allegations.

"With Iran, we have mechanisms like the border management committee.

We have mechanisms which can investigate such events as was done in the past when the Iranian guards were kidnapped and released inside Iran," she maintained.

But at the same time she challenged Iranian account of the events and said information available with Pakistan suggests that the incidents took place inside Iranian territory and were carried out by Iranian militants.

Emphasising on counter-terrorism cooperation between the two countries she said that Pakistan and Iran were neighbours who shared a long border and both had been affected by the events in this region.

Responding to another question about terrorists' safe havens along the Pak-Afghan border, the spokesperson said: "We are against terrorism in all its forms and manifestations. We are also determined not to allow our territory to be used against any other country. We expect that other countries would also not allow their territories to be used against Pakistan. It is a two way responsibility."

 

[Free Karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYr0mmheSXI

Iran is now shelling the border with mortars.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

pakistan ka toh gangbang hora

 

[tramp]

Seems Pakistan's other borders are also heating up... Afghan border is always warm. Perhaps the border that remains cool is the one with China.

Iranian border guards fire mortar shells inside Pakistani territory - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
QUETTA: Iranian border guards on Saturday fired three mortar shells in Mashkail, Pakistan's bordering town with Iran, officials said.

A security official who requested anonymity told Dawn that mortar shells fired by Iranian guards landed in deserted areas close to the sparsely populated Balochistan's Mashkail town.

"The mortar shell attack caused panic among the people," the official said, adding that Frontier Corps (FC) and Levies personnel reached the spot and security was tightened around the border.

No casualty was reported in the attack, the official added.

Today's shelling came hours after a junior officer of the FC was killed in an attack by Iranian border forces in Mand area of Balochistan's Kech district. Four FC personnel were injured.

Also read: Pakistan asks Iran not to 'externalise' its problems

Moreover, the Balochistan government demanded that the centre take up the issue of continued border violations by Iranian border guards with the Iranian foreign office.

Jan Muhammad Buledi, spokesman for the Balochistan government, stated that Iran had been violating Pakistani territory and attacking civilians for the past three days. Buledi has demanded Islamabad to take up this issue with the Iranian foreign office and lodge a formal protest in this regard.

Earlier on Friday, the Iranian border guards had stormed inside the Mand area of Balochistan and had attacked a vehicle of Frontier Corps, killing one soldier and injuring three others.

Khan Wasay, a spokesman for FC troops in Balochistan, told Dawn that at least 30 Iranian border guards had entered into Pakistan's bordering town of Nokundi and made the residents hostage for six hours.

"We have sent a formal letter to Islamabad regarding Iranian intervention and violation," Akbar Hussain Durrani, Secretary Home and Tribal Affairs Department Balochistan told Dawn.

Durrani said the provincial government had taken up the matter seriously and urged the capital to raise this issue with Tehran.

 

[tramp]

Yes, on paper Pakistan looks formidable for Iran. But it is more because we are more familiar with Pakistan's inventory, most of it being of Western origin. And of course Chinese. There is a huge shroud of secrecy about Iranian inventory because of the sanctions and most of them might be of covert Russian/Chinese origin apart from the native content.

We know Iran has a good range of missiles and UCAVs.. and Pakistan would be tested by them if border skirmish escalates.

Agree with you that Iran is not easy walk over but if war erupts (even full fledge) then it will be limited on borders only, air border, water and land.... here Pak will have an edge. They have better fighters under Awacs umbrella, F-16 armed with AIM-120 C operating under Awacs guidance will wreck havoc on sanctioned Iran air force. Iran navy will be suffering huge losses due to newly acquired F-22 and Agostas, P3 Orions of PN etc. For tank and artillery Pak even match India let alone Iran... I am not even talking about their short rage - long range ballistic missiles and cruise missiles....so this war if limited on borders then Pak has more chances to win.... Sad but true....

Pak undestands only Indian language which was shown to them in recent skirmishes