Why Pakistan bombing their own country?

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Yet you Indian xxxxx are so scared of the International administer plebesite.
Yes, we not enough xxxxx to absolve Pakistan of it's duties of fulfillment of required condition as required by UN before UN mandated referendum takes place.

Now, comeback with referendum/ plebiscite bogey, after you have fulfilled your side of commitment.

What are those? Go to UN website archive section to read and understand.

So, before you call someone 'xxxxx' better gage your answer ---------------------------------------------------------------------.
 

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Yet you Indian xxxxx are so scared of the International administer plebesite.
Bhai Jaan !!

That will open the gate for more plebiscite in Pakistan --> Baluchistan that accounts for 50% of Pakistan landscape
China --> TIBET & Xingianj that account for 20% of China's landmass
Turkey --> Kurdistan
Iran --> Kurdistan
Sri Lanka --> Tamil speaking Jafna

Some other nations too...

Do you think it is feasible ??
 

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Bhai Jaan !!

That will open the gate for more plebiscite in Pakistan --> Baluchistan that accounts for 50% of Pakistan landscape
China --> TIBET & Xingianj that account for 20% of China's landmass
Turkey --> Kurdistan
Iran --> Kurdistan
Sri Lanka --> Tamil speaking Jafna

Some other nations too...

Do you think it is feasible ??
Yes I think it is. Even in Baluchistan. Instead of killing ...vote.
 

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As per your logic there was no india till 5000 years ago, how you are claiming the land now. if Muslim ruled on Hindustan , it does not mean India belongs to Muslims , i said Kashmir and kashmir does not stand for Kashmiri Muslims only ,
Bharat existed much before 5000 years Ago actually. And there is no comparison between the orignal habitants of Bharat and Muslims Invaders of Kashmir, Apart from causing Violence, throwing away of Pandits and making Kashmir an International Nuisance what is their Positive Contribution?
 

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I said India once used AF.

For Official entry Indian Military did not admit it till late 1980's. So India officially too acknowledged.

Mizo Students Demand Public Apology From Indian PM For Bombing Mizoram | Sinlung
You said the following

India too bombed, Mizo villages in 1966 Uprising, using air force.
and now you are saying this

I said India once used AF.
Hell and heaven difference between the two.

One of them is correct the other is wrong and propaganda. Chose to take the debate further.

I didn't find any official account in the link you provided. Try to find that and provide it here.
 

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You said the following



and now you are saying this



Hell and heaven difference between the two.

One of them is correct the other is wrong and propaganda. Chose to take the debate further.

I didn't find any official account in the link you provided. Try to find that and provide it here.
:facepalm:

What hell and heaven difference?

You wanted a link, I gave you.

Can you bomb with out AF?

For Official account, Indian Government yet has not publicly apologized for that.

:facepalm:

Fact is IAF bombed, when it softened up insurgent resistance but also made local people angry, and insurgency continued, in late 1980's Indian Military admitted this bombing, and ow Mizo students demand apology from PM.
 

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Quiz: Look at the image at bottom and choose one of the options below. The first person to guess correctly will get one extra houri when he dies. (72+1)
a. Image shows Israeli army in Gaza
b. Image shows Russian rebels in Ukraine
c. Image shows Pakistani army in Waziristan
d. Image shows Lashkar e Toiba freedom fighters in Mumbai

 

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:facepalm:

What hell and heaven difference?

You wanted a link, I gave you.

Can you bomb with out AF?

For Official account, Indian Government yet has not publicly apologized for that.

:facepalm:

Fact is IAF bombed, when it softened up insurgent resistance but also made local people angry, and insurgency continued, in late 1980's Indian Military admitted this bombing, and ow Mizo students demand apology from PM.
Yes there is hell and heaven difference.

If you say IAF was used, it's correct.

If you say IAF bombed it's wrong.

Because you guys have a habit of changing what had happened using your own word which distorts the statement doesn't mean it's correct.

Now, you will say ''IAF flattened the Mizo Villages by bombing them'' is also correct?

I wanted a link which has official Indian stance. You can keep the propaganda to yourself.

I have gone through 100's of them to separate wheat from the chaff.

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PS. I will make things easier for you. Don't have to dig for links. Read carefully the Wiki article you posted, you will get the answer.
 

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Yes there is hell and heaven difference.

If you say IAF was used, it's correct.

If you say IAF bombed it's wrong.

Because you guys have a habit of changing what had happened using your own word which distorts the statement doesn't mean it's correct.

Now, you will say ''IAF flattened the Mizo Villages by bombing them'' is also correct?

I wanted a link which has official Indian stance. You can keep the propaganda to yourself.

I have gone through 100's of them to separate wheat from the chaff.
What does Air Force do when it is called to help Army? Attacking ground targets or hovering above head just?

IAF used Rockets and incendiary bombs.

Case Closed.
@bennedose Option C.

Can I have Bailando model and Ariana instead of Houri? :hmm: :rofl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1966_Mizo_National_Front_uprising#Airstrikes

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he IAF was asked to carry the troops in Mi-4 helicopters into the besieged AR camp, accompanied with fighter escorts, but failed due to heavy and accurate fire by the insurgents. The Toofani fighters of 29 Squadron operating from Kumbhirgram and Hunter fighters of 17 Squadron operating from Jorhat undertook independent missions to escort the troop reinforcements and to suppress the insurgents.[1] Later, when the Eastern Army Commander Lt Gen SHFJ Manekshaw, MC overflew parts of Mizoram in 1968, his helicopter was fired at by the insurgents.[6]

On the afternoon of 4 March 1966, the IAF jet fighters strafed the MNF targets in Aizawl using machine guns, allegedly causing few civilian casualties.[4][7] The next day, a more extensive airstrike was carried out for about five hours. According to some Mizos, the planes used incendiary bombs, resulting in fires that destroyed several houses in the Dawrpui and Chhinga Veng areas. According to some other accounts, the houses were destroyed in the fires started by the prisoners released from the Aizawl jail by the insurgents.[4] Apart from Aizawl, the neighbouring villages of Tualbung and Hnahlan were also allegedly bombarded. No human casualties were officially reported in these airstrikes, but most of the civilian population fled Aizawl, and took refuge in the remote villages in the adjacent hills.

In the history of independent India, this remains the only instance of the Government of India resorting to air strikes in its own territory.[1] Locals claim that Rajesh Pilot and Suresh Kalmadi were among the IAF pilots who dropped the bombs.[8] Pu Zoramthanga, who went on to become the Chief Minister of Mizoram in 1998, once said that the main reason he joined the MNF and became a rebel was the "relentless bombing of Aizawl in 1966".[9]
 
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What does Air Force do when it is called to help Army? Attacking ground targets or hovering above head just?

IAF used Rockets and incendiary bombs.

Case Closed.
@bennedose Option C.

Can I have Bailando model and Ariana instead of Houri? :hmm: :rofl:
IAF used Rockets and incendiary bombs.
There you go wrong, No credible reference exits of those being used.

Only Strafing runs were carried out against rebel stronghold in Aizawl and nearby.

All other are user accounts cited by HR sources whose bias in 1966 were anti India at best.

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PS. Provide Rockets and Bombs were used from credible sources and you shall win. :thumb:
 
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There you go wrong, No credible reference exits of those being used.

Only Strafing runs were carried out against rebel stronghold in Aizawl and nearby.

All other are user accounts cited by HR sources whose bias in 1966 were anti India at best.

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PS. Provide Rockets and Bombs were used from credible sources and you shall win. :thumb:
Silent rally echoes Mizo pain of '66 IAF attacks - The Times of India

Gaddafi in Mizoram | Opinion | Times Crest

The Assam Tribune Online

Happy now...
 

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Quiz: Look at the image at bottom and choose one of the options below. The first person to guess correctly will get one extra houri when he dies. (72+1)
a. Image shows Israeli army in Gaza
b. Image shows Russian rebels in Ukraine
c. Image shows Pakistani army in Waziristan
d. Image shows Lashkar e Toiba freedom fighters in Mumbai

Actually I am reminded of a scene in the movie Black Hawk Down. The stances of the soldiers in the right almost look identical to that of the US rangers in the movie.

Not sure why that scene would pop up first thing as I saw the pic.
 

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Quiz: Look at the image at bottom and choose one of the options below. The first person to guess correctly will get one extra houri when he dies. (72+1)
a. Image shows Israeli army in Gaza
b. Image shows Russian rebels in Ukraine
c. Image shows Pakistani army in Waziristan
d. Image shows Lashkar e Toiba freedom fighters in Mumbai

Hmmm... Tough one. Shall we see them one by one:

a) Can't be this because the soldiers shown are from a brave martial race based on their eagerness in the battlefield, and we all know that jews are short and cowardly.

b) Can't be Russian rebels because they are busy shooting down national birds of Malaysia

d) Can't be LeT in Mumbai because Mumbai is not this organized or clean.

c) Has to be, look at how they run around paradoxically in disparate directions confused because on the one hand 'pakistan ka matlab kya' and 'jihad fi sabillilah' and on the other hand they are fighting against abdul ghazi bhais that believe these things even more profoundly than themselves.

Do I get the extra?
 

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]Silent rally echoes Mizo pain of '66 IAF attacks - The Times of India

"In the first wave of the attack, the combat planes used machine guns. Later, bomb attacks were carried out," said Mawia, a 67-year-old resident of Aizawl, who still shudders to think of the strikes. "The IAF resumed the air strikes the very next day and continued the operation for five long hours," added Mawia.
User account, which is not a credible source.

Gaddafi in Mizoram | Opinion | Times Crest

Again user accounts which are not credible.

On March 5 and 6, 1966, hundreds of incendiary bombs reduced houses, schools, markets, churches and even hospitals to ashes. Miraculously, just 15 people died in Aizawl, but that was because most of the 10, 000-odd residents of the hill town had fled when fighting between the rebels and Indian security forces broke out. The IAF fighters - Toofanis and Hunters - flew low over Aizawl and strafed many areas before bombing and devastating the town. The bombings continued with a greater vengeance the next day.
That means IAF was bombing empty villages? Hundred of bombs on empty villages, were dropped for what?
These are all unverified as the 100,000 unmarked graves in Kashmir. There are many account of that also, how many of them are correct?

The Assam Tribune Online

Liberal use of word bombing, no explicit reference to use of Bomb and rockets, Journalists have no idea how to difference between strafing and bombing.
 
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Hmmm... Tough one. Shall we see them one by one:

a) Can't be this because the soldiers shown are from a brave martial race based on their eagerness in the battlefield, and we all know that jews are short and cowardly.

b) Can't be Russian rebels because they are busy shooting down national birds of Malaysia

d) Can't be LeT in Mumbai because Mumbai is not this organized or clean.

c) Has to be, look at how they run around paradoxically in disparate directions confused because on the one hand 'pakistan ka matlab kya' and 'jihad fi sabillilah' and on the other hand they are fighting against abdul ghazi bhais that believe these things even more profoundly than themselves.

Do I get the extra?
I will also go with your answer. But. what will you do the extra? She like the other 72 has a firm believe to remain virgin till eternity.
 

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]Silent rally echoes Mizo pain of '66 IAF attacks - The Times of India



User account, which is not a credible source.

Gaddafi in Mizoram | Opinion | Times Crest

Again user accounts which are not credible.



That means IAF was bombing empty villages? Hundred of bombs on empty villages, were dropped for what?
These are all unverified as the 100,000 unmarked graves in Kashmir. There are many account of that also, how many of them are correct?

The Assam Tribune Online

Liberal use of word bombing, no explicit reference to use of Bomb and rockets, Journalists have no idea how to difference between strafing and bombing.
So what is your credible source's definition? I am too Indian and patriotic, but not blind.

Every thing those suit Indian claim(even if unverified) are all credible but any hing that contradicts are non-credible?

Accept the truth. It will only help to bring people of NE India to mainsteam Indian society more closer.
 

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So what is your credible source's definition? I am too Indian and patriotic, but not blind.

Every thing those suit Indian claim(even if unverified) are all credible but any hing that contradicts are non-credible?

Accept the truth. It will only help to bring people of NE India to mainsteam Indian society more closer.
There is nothing about being Patriotic or blindly patriotic.

If you believe user accounts, you also have to believe the 100,000 unmarked graves in Kashmir. Because those are also user accounts.
Just showing how credible your links are.

Don't have to do grandstanding, about what needs to be done to bring NE into mainstream.

You claimed something for which you have no credible links.

But, even you claims ( if taken to be correct) prove that 100's of bombs and rockets killed only 15 people. Unless and until IAF was practicing bombing, what was the purpose?
If civilian deaths were minimal, apology for what?
 
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Actually I am reminded of a scene in the movie Black Hawk Down. The stances of the soldiers in the right almost look identical to that of the US rangers in the movie.

Not sure why that scene would pop up first thing as I saw the pic.
I can explain that.

Two things stand out
1. The state of the town (reminds you of Somalia)
2. The soldiers uniforms (reminds you of USA)

You get half a houri for figuring this out but only one country in the world destroys its own cities and stands shoulder to shoulder with Somalia in being both decrepit and piously Islamic while its soldiers wear US gifted uniforms because they have been ever ready to do the US's job.

You get half a houri more for writing the name of that country down in 8 letters
 

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