Osama Bin Laden was killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan

[johnee]

another conspiracy theory but why would Ayman al-Zawahiri get OBL killed after all obl wasn`t as active and was just acting as boss without actual powers

That news, seems to be trash.

 

[A chauhan]

Who knows if OBL is alive in US custody (getting third degree treatment) and they shot him Filmi bullet, they declared him dead to avoid any airplane hijack for his release, afterall US has not issued any photograph of dead OBL ? Lol

 

[A chauhan]

Now Al qaeda planning to attack on UK in Mumbai attack style : -

http://www.zeenews.com/Special/story.aspx?sid=OSD&aid=704280

 

[nitesh]

run US run, mighty PA is coming

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden

Pakistan's army ordered a reduction in U.S. military personnel operating inside the country on Thursday in apparent protest at a unilateral American commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden

 

[pmaitra]

Who knows if OBL is alive in US custody (getting third degree treatment) and they shot him Filmi bullet, they declared him dead to avoid any airplane hijack for his release, afterall US has not issued any photograph of dead OBL ? Lol

Excellent point. US does not want a Beslan like crisis in the US.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Gaza Hamas leader condemns bin Laden killing

GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories (AFP) – Ismail Haniya, the head of the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip, on Monday condemned the killing of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a US raid in Pakistan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110502...estinianshamas​

 

[AirforcePilot]

Who knows if OBL is alive in US custody (getting third degree treatment) and they shot him Filmi bullet, they declared him dead to avoid any airplane hijack for his release, afterall US has not issued any photograph of dead OBL ? Lol

The only way OBL was to leave Pakistan was in a body bag. It would of made no difference if OBL was armed or not, the mission was to eliminate him. To capture him would of been a severe problem. I personally would like to see the pictures but the WH made the final call not to release the photos. From news reports OBL 12 year old kid and his wife seen the killing of OBL. That's good enough for me!

 

[Oracle]

/\/\/\ That's good enough for me too. That SOB deserved to be clothed in pork fat and then burnt to infinity! Fcuking ******!

 

[pmaitra]

The only way OBL was to leave Pakistan was in a body bag. It would of made no difference if OBL was armed or not, the mission was to eliminate him. To capture him would of been a severe problem. I personally would like to see the pictures but the WH made the final call not to release the photos. From news reports OBL 12 year old kid and his wife seen the killing of OBL. That's good enough for me!

^^ I too think OBL is dead. Let us all forget about OBL and head to OBX instead.

OBX - Outer Banks, North Carolina, fun time on the beach.

 

[chex3009]

US fears abandoned bin Laden raid helicopter may fall into enemy hands

WASHINGTON -- US defense officials are concerned the wreckage of a helicopter left behind after the raid to kill Osama bin Laden at a Pakistan compound could fall into enemy hands, FOX News Channel reported Wednesday.

Discussions are reportedly taking place at the highest levels to ensure that Pakistan hands back the remnants of the aircraft that have been clearly shown in photographs released by Reuters.

The pictures show a large section of the damaged helicopter lying near the compound in Abbottabad.

It appears to have an unusual tail assembly, possibly hinting at a type of previously-unknown stealth capability.

US officials are worried the China or enemy states could use the technology in the helicopter to advance their own military capabilities, FOX reported.

Defense sources, cited by FOX, said earlier this week that Chinook and Blackhawk helicopters had been used to carry US Navy SEALs to the compound on their successful mission to kill the al Qaeda terror chief.

One of the aircraft had a "flight-control issue" and was unable to lift off again after landing. The aircraft was destroyed by the crew and the assault force, and crew members left the compound in a second helicopter.

The Wall Street Journal said the helicopter experienced "mechanical failure" and was destroyed at the site.

Source : poconorecord

 

[Kunal Biswas]

US fears abandoned bin Laden raid helicopter may fall into enemy hands


Source : poconorecord

Its Media Hype..
The Helo is mainly deigned for Sound reduction, The Technology existed since 90s, Its nothing new but, Yes recently exposed !

News Discussion

Technology

Some thing now every one will try !

I bet Dhruv will too come with these Tools some time.....

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Pray for Osama: Geelani to Kashmiris

Srinagar, May 5 (IBNS) Hurriat hardliner Syed Ali Shah Geelani on Thursday appealed to Kashmiris to hold funeral prayers for slain al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden on Friday.

A statement issued by Hurriat Conference said Geelani appealed to Imams (Muslim priests) and people to pray for Osama after Friday 'namaz' in the afternoon.

Addressing Osama as a 'martyr', Geelani said: "He represented a thinking which opposed foreign occupational forces. His heart bore the pain of the entire Muslim Ummah (clan). He gave up his life of comfort to fight for their cause."

Meanwhile, Geelani has been put under house arrest by the Jammu & Kashmir Police on Thursday.

http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetai...ils050511v.php






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[Someoneforyou]

U.S. President Barack Obama to meet commandos who carried out raid to kill Osama bin Laden
UNITED STATES - 5 MAY 2011

WASHINGTON: President Barack Obama will on Friday meet members of the secretive team of elite commandos that carried out the covert operation inside Pakistan that killed Osama bin Laden, a US official said.

Obama also met Admiral William McRaven, chairman of Joint Special Operations Command in the Oval Office on Wednesday to thank him for the successful assault on bin Laden's lair in Abbottabad, the official said on condition of anonymity.

The president, who will visit Fort Campbell in Kentucky Friday, "will have the opportunity to privately thank some of the special operators involved in the operation," the official said.

The Navy SEALs team helicoptered across Pakistan and killed bin Laden in the early hours of Monday morning before taking his corpse to a US ship in the Arabian Sea for a burial at sea.


Source: AFP

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/pak...d-to-play-victim/story-fn8ljzlv-1226050726377

Pakistan must no longer be allowed to play victim

BLAMING the rest of the world for Pakistan's failure to capture Osama bin Laden was not the most grown-up approach for its Prime Minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, to take.

In the alleyways of Karachi, it is just possible that Osama bin Laden might have escaped notice, but not in the garrison town of Abbottabad.

Gilani can rail against the failure of other nations' intelligence agencies and demand support to combat terrorism. But every Pakistani I have spoken to in the past two days believes the army or the ISI intelligence agency must have known bin Laden's whereabouts.

"No one will be surprised now," one told me grimly, "if Mullah Omar (the Afghan Taliban leader) turns up next door."

The brutal exposure of Pakistan's double game taking America's money to fight extremists while harbouring its enemies makes this a dangerous moment. The US decision to go after bin Laden alone without telling the ISI is only the latest manifestation of the loss of patience that began when AQ Khan sold nuclear secrets to rogue states (the ISI claimed he acted alone) and has deepened since two jihadis testified that the ISI trained some of the perpetrators of the 2008 attacks in Mumbai.

The West cannot turn its back on Pakistan, which is a nuclear power, but it must rewrite the script so that the army cannot continue to play the victim card with Washington, asking for aid to combat extremism while blatantly failing in the mission and exporting terrorism elsewhere.

In The Washington Post this week, President Asif Ali Zardari wrote that his late wife, Benazir Bhutto, had been targeted by bin Laden for being a moderate, democratically elected woman. "We can become everything that al-Qa'ida and the Taliban most fear, a vision of a modern Islamic future. Our people, our government, our military, our intelligence agencies are very much united," he said.

Sadly, it is not that simple. Zardari is so weak he has not even dared to visit Abbottabad since the events of the weekend. He is the nominal ruler of a country that has been run for 40 years by the military and intelligence agencies, with some civil servants, irrespective of who is officially in power. Pakistan's military-industrial complex has jailed judges, stifled the press, prevented parliament from scrutinising the defence budget and whipped up Islamist fervour when it suits. It reaches everywhere: Asma Jahangir, the woman lawyer and human rights activist, is said to have joked that hairdressing is the only business in which the army does not have a stake.

That military-industrial complex owes its might to US money. During the anti-Soviet struggle in Afghanistan, the CIA worked with the Pakistani army to arm and train the Mujaheddin, including Osama bin Laden. But the army hit its most lucrative era after 9/11 and George W. Bush's "with us or against us" ultimatum to General Pervez Musharraf to join the war on terror. Between 2002 and last year, the US gave $US20 billion in aid to Pakistan, according to the Congressional Research Office; $US14bn of it went to the military.

The ruling class has used its vulnerability to extremism as a stick with which to beat more money out of its allies, but ultimately it will suffer from the forces it has unleashed.

Bin Laden was no friend to ordinary Pakistanis, who have suffered more than any other nation from the kind of terrorism he sponsored. In his death, there is an opportunity for US President Barack Obama to advance matters on Pakistan's western border by inviting the Afghan Taliban to renounce al-Qa'ida and enter peace talks. And for him to use the power of his money in a different way.

The aid contract between the US and Pakistan has been a no-questions-asked bribe that has, arguably, made a bad situation worse by creating a skewed set of incentives to promote the terrorism on which the US is waging war.

A better way to combat extremism might be to build infrastructure, enterprise and secular schools that are not madrassas. The Pakistani establishment should embrace any such offer of jobs and education. And it must stop playing the victim the world will no longer buy it.

The Times

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-th...s-incompetence-bin-laden-search-denies-hiding

Former Pakistani President Musharraf Concedes Incompetence in Bin Laden Search, But Denies Hiding 9/11 Mastermind
Controversial /embarrassing Musharraf interview video link

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/05/04/wikileaks-expose-pakistans-blatant-betrayal-of-america/

WikiLeaks Exposes Pakistan's Blatant Betrayal of America

The total lack of communication between the US and Pakistani governments on the assassination of Osama bin Laden came as no surprise to those who long-suspected rank duplicity in the Pakistani power-structure. Recently revealed information, obtained by WikiLeaks, has now verified this suspicion in spades, exposing, in particular, the incredibly corrupt and treacherous nature of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Among other things, the ISI has worked closely with al-Qaeda, the Taliban and other radical Islamists, including Salafists and Wahhabists.

According to one leaked diplomatic cable recording the assessment of a foreign counter-terrorism official, Pakistani security forces had protected bin Laden all these years, warning him whenever American forces were closing in on him. This, in fact, was how he escaped Northern Waziristan, the diplomat said. The leaked document acknowledges that Pakistan is still a breeding ground for terrorists, who migrate to other areas (i.e. Tajikistan), and that Pakistan was manipulating terrorist groups for "geopolitical gains," as the official described it.

However, the immense degree of corruption by Pakistan extends far beyond its protection of bin Laden. WikiLeaks cables also reveal that Pakistan's ISI smuggled al-Qaeda terrorists through airport security to help them avoid capture and, moreover, helped send an al-Qaeda unit into Afghanistan to fight alongside the Taliban. According to one document, a Guantanamo Bay detainee (an equivalent of an Afghani Brigadier General) helped pass 65 al-Qaeda members directly to the ISI and "unidentified Wahabi party officials," who then smuggled the cadre into Pakistan. The detainee reported witnessing one high-ranking terrorist boasting of another incident in which the ISI "sent a military unit into Afghanistan, posing as civilians to fight alongside the Taliban against US forces." After the unit was captured, funds were "secured"¦from the ISID [ISI] for their release." US officials also cited in the same document that the ISI is linked to the Salafist Islamic group Juma'at Ul Dawa Al Qurani (JDQ).

A clear indication of the high-level of protection offered to bin Laden by the Pakistanis was his last place of residence. When US military personnel finally caught up with al Qaeda's leader and dispensed long overdue justice, bin Laden was living unbothered deep inside Pakistan in Abbottabad, a military town known as the heart of Pakistan's army establishment. Rawalpindi, the army's headquarters, is called its "head." Many high-ranking Pakistani officers live in Abbottabad, which hosts Pakistan's most prestigious military academies.

Bin Laden's home in Abbottabad is an elaborate luxury compound that may have been built for him in 2005, the Wall Street Journal reported. The compound is valued at $1 million and was described by one American official as "extraordinarily unique," which gave the American intelligence operatives tracking bin Laden "confidence" that he may be living there.
The $1 million sum is, of course, nothing compared to the $1 billion that the Pakistani army has been receiving annually from the United States for being a supposed "ally" in the War on Terror. And so, as it turns out, the Pakistani military's greatest fear these past ten years was more likely not al-Qaeda terrorist attacks, but rather that bin Laden would fall into American hands. Such an occurrence, would result in Pakistan losing the financial gifts from America needed "to fight" terrorism.

Also on the table if bin Laden was captured would have been the additional $1 billion Pakistan receives annually in non-military aid and $300 million in "separate" military assistance. So with such large amounts of money at stake, it is no wonder that corrupt and jihad-minded Pakistani officials would constantly deny for years that they knew the whereabouts of al Qaeda leader's and smarmily challenged accusers to provide evidence to the contrary. Bin Laden was the goose laying the golden egg for Pakistan's security establishment.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Data From Raid Links Bin Laden to Newer Terror Plots


WASHINGTON — After reviewing computer files and documents seized at the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed, American intelligence analysts have concluded that the chief of Al Qaeda played a direct role for years in plotting terror attacks from his hide-out in Abbottabad, Pakistan, United States officials said Thursday.
With Bin Laden's whereabouts and activities a mystery in recent years, many intelligence analysts and terror experts had concluded that he had been relegated to an inspirational figure with little role in current and future Qaeda operations.
A rushed examination of the trove of materials from the compound in Pakistan prompted Obama administration officials on Thursday to issue a warning that Al Qaeda last year had considered attacks on American railroads.
The documents include a handwritten notebook from February 2010 that discusses tampering with tracks to derail a train on a bridge, possibly on Christmas, New Year's Day, the day of the State of the Union address or the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, officials said. But they said there was no evidence of a specific plot. An Obama administration official said that documents about attacking railroads were among the first to be translated from Arabic and analyzed. The materials, along with others reviewed in the intelligence cache, have given intelligence officials a much richer picture of the Qaeda founder's leadership of the network as he tried to elude a global dragnet.
"He wasn't just a figurehead," said one American official, speaking only on condition of anonymity, who had been briefed on the documents. "He continued to plot and plan, to come up with ideas about targets, and to communicate those ideas to other senior Qaeda leaders."
The crash program across the intelligence community to translate and analyze the documents has as its top priority discovering any clues about terror attacks that might be in the works. Intelligence analysts also were scrubbing the files for any information that might lead to identifying the location of Al Qaeda's surviving leadership.
Since Sunday night, when President Obama announced the killing of Bin Laden in a daring raid, counterterrorism officials have been alert to the possibility of new attacks from Al Qaeda to avenge its leader's death and prove its continuing relevance.
Department of Homeland Security officials have reviewed potential terrorist targets and deployed extra security at airports. And in response to the new evidence seized at the Bin Laden compound, the Transportation Security Administration issued a bulletin to rail companies.
But officials emphasized that the information was both dated and vague. "It looks very, very aspirational, and we have no evidence that it developed beyond the initial discussion," said Matt Chandler, a spokesman for Homeland Security.
"We want to stress that this alleged Al Qaeda plotting is based on initial reporting, which is often misleading or inaccurate and subject to change," he added.
As the Bin Laden trail grew cold and the terror chief stopped broadcasting videos to the world in the last several years, Bin Laden's status as the world's most influential terrorist seemed to diminish. Still, in the decade since he fled Afghanistan in late 2001, he managed to release four to six audio messages each year, often making reference to current events, showing that his hideout was not entirely cut off from the outside world.
The only exception was 2005 — the year he is believed to have moved to the compound in Abbottabad — when his silence led to months of speculation that he might be dead.
"If he could get six audio messages out in a year, he could certainly get instructions to his followers," said Ben N. Venzke, who runs IntelCenter, a Virginia company that tracks terrorist groups' Internet communications.
"I think the notion that he was completely irrelevant was exaggerated," Mr. Venzke said. "His role was always as senior leader, giving strategic direction."
The fact that Bin Laden was found not in Pakistan's rugged tribal areas but on the outskirts of an affluent town less than an hour's drive from the capital, Islamabad, has prompted a rethinking of the widespread notion that he had little control over the rest of Al Qaeda.
"Until now, the prevailing wisdom was that he was hiding in a remote, isolated mountain range and cut off from his followers," said Bruce Hoffman, an expert on Al Qaeda at Georgetown University. "Now we know that was all wrong and reconsider what his role really was."
Even with his death, American officials and terror experts have warned since Sunday night that that is not the end of Al Qaeda. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, in Rome for talks about the war in Libya, told international donors on Thursday that the United States would continue aggressive operations against militants.
In fact, missiles fired from a Pentagon drone killed several militant suspects driving in a car in Yemen on Thursday. It was unclear who was killed in the strike, although American officials said that the suspects may have been operatives with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
And, as the Central Intelligence Agency continues its drone bombing campaign in Pakistan, the trove of documents collected at the compound in Abbottabad is likely to produce intelligence for future strikes there.

 

[Vikramaditya]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-th...s-incompetence-bin-laden-search-denies-hiding

Former Pakistani President Musharraf Concedes Incompetence in Bin Laden Search, But Denies Hiding 9/11 Mastermind
Controversial /embarrassing Musharraf interview video link

Either they are incompetence or they are hiding osama.If they say they are incompetence then their own people will be behind them or i f they say they are hiding osama then whole wold, so they have chosen incompetence.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Either they are incompetence or they are hiding osama.If they say they are incompetence then their own people will be behind them or i f they say they are hiding osama then whole wold, so they have chosen incompetence.

He always has an excuse for failures he has made a career of failures ; the Kargil loser.He also confesses to sending terrorists organizations into India a real idiot.

 

[Virendra]

Afghanistan 'had Abbottabad lead four years ago'
Osama bin Laden death: Afghanistan 'had Abbottabad lead four years ago'

Afghanistan's former intelligence chief says Pakistan's then president Pervez Musharraf angrily rejected Osama hideout tip
Jon Boone in Kabul
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 May 2011 18.25 BST

Afghan intelligence believed Osama bin Laden was hiding in an area close to Abbottabad four years ago – but no action was taken after the claim was furiously rejected by Pakistan's president, Afghanistan's former intelligence chief has said.

Agents working for the National Directorate of Security (NDS), the country's intelligence service, worked out that the world's most wanted man must be inside Pakistan proper, rather than the semi-autonomous tribal areas, as early in 2004, Amrullah Saleh told the Guardian.

He said they believed Bin Laden must be there based on "thousands of interrogation reports" and the assumption that Osama – "a millionaire with multiple wives and no background of toughness" – would not be living in a tent.

"I was pretty sure he was in the settled areas of Pakistan because in 2005 it was still very easy to infiltrate the tribal areas, and we had massive numbers of informants there," he said. "They could find any Arab but notBin Laden."

Their intelligence became more precise in 2007 when they believed he was hiding in Manshera, a town a short distance from Abbottabad where the NDS had identified two al-Qaida safe houses.

But the former spy chief said that Pervez Musharraf, then president of Pakistan, was outraged at the suggestion that Bin Laden was hiding in such a prominent part of the country.

In a meeting with Musharraf and Hamid Karzai the Pakistani president became furious and smashed his fist down on the table. "He said, 'Am I the president of the Republic of Banana?'" Saleh recalled. "Then he turned to President Karzai and said, 'Why have you have brought this Panjshiri guy to teach me intelligence?'"

He said Karzai had to intervene as Musharraf got increasingly angry and began to physically threaten Saleh.

Afghanistan's former top spy – who has long been a hate figure in Islamabad among officials who believed he was implacably anti-Pakistani – also said he had no doubts that Mullah Omar, the leader of the Taliban movement, was hiding in a safe house owned by the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the Pakistani spy agency, in the city of Karachi.

"He is protected by ISI, General Pasha [Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, director-general of the ISI] knows as I am talking to you where is Mullah Omar and he keeps daily briefs from his officers about the location of senior Taliban leaders, simple," he said.

Saleh was speaking to the Guardian soon after addressing a rally of several thousand Afghans in Kabul organised as a show of strength of what he called Afghanistan's "anti-Taliban constituency" who are alarmed at the prospect of peace talks with insurgents.

The killing of Bin Laden, who was sheltered by the Taliban regime in the 1990s, has prompted heady speculation that an "end game" to the 10-year conflict is now at hand, with the Afghan government and the Taliban-led insurgency striking a deal.

But "deal making" were dirty words to the crowd gathered in a huge tent in Kabul lined with banners saying "We didn't vote for Karzai to make deals" and "Don't sacrifice justice for dealing".

Speeches were interrupted several times by chants from the crowd of "Death to the Taliban! Death to the suicide bombers! Death to the Punjabis!" – a reference to the protesters' view that the Taliban are under the control of the ISI.

Saleh is a burly and comparatively young man who earned the respect of the CIA during his sometimes brutal leadership of Afghanistan's intelligence service. He received a rapturous reception from the flag-waving crowd when he marched into the tent

Saleh lambasted Karzai for calling the Taliban disaffected "brothers".

"They are not my brother, they are not your brother – those are our enemies," he declared, to cheers.

Saleh warned the government that his movement would not remain content with peaceful demonstrations if Karzai did not change course. Later he told the Guardian that if Karzai "sold out in order to bring the Taliban" there would be no choice but to "rise up".

"We have been exposed to a lot of weapons, it is not very difficult to resort to fighting and create influence," he said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-afghan-intelligence-abbottabad-lead
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Amrullah Saleh, former Afghan intelligence chief is perceived as a strong anti Taliban anti Pakistan figure. He worked for the legendary anti-Taliban leader Ahmad Shah Massoud.
He also opposes the Afghan president's recent policy of compromise with the Taliban.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrullah_Saleh


Regards,
Virendra