Alexander the Great Invades India

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Anyway, I don't understand what you are saying Indian states should have done. Do you think they just allowed foreign invaders to pass through their lands, without any resistance? There were probably numerous battles fought around the Khyber Pass throughout history. But numerous times, the invaders were able to break through. If any Indian state or a coalition of Indian states gathered enough forces to repel an invading force at the Khyber Pass, or at any other key strategic pass like the Bolan Pass, it would be just a temporary victory. All states and nations rise and decline; sooner or later a new Central Asian horde would emerge and defeat the weakening Indian states or coalition of states. Since Central Asian peoples are nomadic in nature, populations on India's NW frontier were always in flux and the frontier was seldom stable.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say. There had be a permanent solution to the problem, not just a temporary "closing" of the pass by an Indian army. One cannot except an Indian state to maintain constant vigilance over these strategic passes for all of eternity.



Probably because India itself was divided into numerous states. Only a centralized pan-Indian empire with unquestioned dominance over the subcontinent could afford to look towards Central Asia. But throughout Indian history, there have been few of those. Only the Mauryas and Mughals ruled over what is now Afghanistan, and both attempted to expand their influence into Central Asia through various means, with varying degrees of success.

A totally understand what you are trying to say.

1) We were never a strong or united force to hold either of the passes.

2) Both the passes were not wide there were areas where only a few could move. Hence a big force would not be required to protect either of the passes. Some articles point out that not more than 8 people can go through the Khyber Pass at a time.

3) Instability was a problem. Instability was also partly caused by invading forces, invariably through the Passes. Hence securing the passes could have been a bigger issue towards stability in the region.
 

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The Greeks were a scattered force back than. They were never a total force, they were a group of different forces fighting together.

The Greeks lost after the Persians had surrounded them from the back as well, after a naval group also landed. But correct me if I m wrong, anyway it was a battle of David vs Goliath.
Yes, the Greeks were divided among themselves, but when the Persians invaded Greece many rival city-states did come together. For example, at Battle of Thermopylae there were not only Spartans but also some 7,000 other Greeks from various city-states like Athens and Thebes. So there was at least a temporary unity among the Greeks caused by having a common enemy (the Persians).

A totally understand what you are trying to say.

1) We were never a strong or united force to hold either of the passes.
Even if India was ruled by a strong or united force, how long do you expect a single empire to hold on to these passes? No empire can last forever. We can assume that both the Mauryas and Mughals controlled these passes since both ruled Afghanistan, but as soon as central imperial authority broke down the passes were no longer secure and a fresh batch of invaders descended onto the subcontinent - the Greco-Bactrians in the case of the Mauryas and the Afghan Durranis in the case of the Mughals. What I am saying, is that there had to be a more permanent solution to ensure the stability of the region. And this could be achieved only by invading Central Asia itself and colonizing it with settlers from India proper, just like the Chinese conquered Xinjiang and settled it with Hans, or the Russians conquered Kazakhstan and settled it with Slavs.

However, unlike the Russian and Chinese empires, no Indian empire was ever centralized or powerful enough to carry out such an endeavor.
 
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Alexander? No, it's Porus the Great - Times Of India

Alexander? No, it's Porus the Great

BANGALORE: Alexander the Great invaded India. But King Porus defeated Alexander and chased him away. Which narrative should we use to teach our children?

This was the poser to the MLCs in the legislative council by primary and secondary education minister Vishweshwara Hegde Kageri.

The minister said: There are always different perspectives to an issue. We can look at this historical incident in two ways. The first one is what we have been taught and told for years. This perspective breeds inferiority complex among the children. The second narrative helps children swell with pride. Which method should we adopt? We have gained Independence long ago. Shouldn't we narrate history from our perspective?''

He said education should help children inculcate self-respect, love for the country and courage to take on challenges.

Kageri was replying to Congress leader C Motamma, who moved a calling attention motion stating that fifth and eighth standard textbooks had been distorted, dealing a blow to social justice and the principles of the Constitution. Don't spoil the minds of the children by distorting facts. Instead, stress on moral education,'' she said.

Motamma referred to the lesson in the 8th standard Hindi textbook of 2012 titled 'Punyakoti', which is found in Kannada folklore 'Govinahaadu'. She said the conclusive lines had been changed to give a different meaning. In the original Kannada poem, the tiger leaves the cow without eating as the latter displays extraordinary honesty and truth. The tiger sacrifices its life for the same reason. But the textbook has a different version. The tiger says, "Using cow as food is a wicked thought. So I pledge that I will not eat any cows here after..." This is to propagate the idea that consumption of beef is immoral.

The minister said it had been already been rectified. He admitted that there could be some minor errors in the curriculum. Preparing textbooks is a huge task. If there are any anomalies, we will make amends,'' he said.
 
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How "Great" Was Alexander? [P.1]


How "Great" Was Alexander?


Why was Alexander III of Macedon called 'Great'? The answer seems relatively straightforward: from an early age he was an achiever, he conquered territories on a superhuman scale, he established an empire until his times unrivalled, and he died young, at the height of his power. Thus, at the youthful age of 20, in 336, he inherited the powerful empire of Macedon, which by then controlled Greece and had already started to make inroads into Asia. In 334 he invaded Persia, and within a decade he had defeated the Persians, subdued Egypt, and pushed on to Iran, Afghanistan and even India. As well as his vast conquests Alexander is credited with the spread of Greek culture and education in his empire, not to mention being responsible for the physical and cultural formation of the hellenistic kingdoms -- some would argue that the hellenistic world was Alexander's legacy.[2] He has also been viewed as a philosophical idealist, striving to create a unity of mankind by his so-called fusion of the races policy, in which he attempted to integrate Persians and Orientals into his administration and army. Thus, within a dozen years Alexander's empire stretched from Greece in the west to India in the far east, and he was even worshipped as a god by many of his subjects while still alive. On the basis of his military conquests contemporary historians, and especially those writing in Roman times who measured success by the number of body-bags used, deemed him great.[3]

However, does a man deserve to be called 'The Great' who was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of his own men and for the unnecessary wholesale slaughter of native peoples? How 'great' is a king who prefers constant warfare over consolidating conquered territories and long-term administration? Or who, through his own recklessness, often endangered his own life andthe lives of his men? Or whose violent temper on occasion led him to murder his friends and who towards the end of his life was an alcoholic, paranoid, megalomaniac, who believed in his own divinity?These are questions posed by our standards of today of course, but nevertheless they are legitimate questions given the influence which Alexander has exerted throughout history -an influence which will no doubt continue.[4]

The aims of this paper are to trace some reasons for questioning the greatness of Alexander as is reflected in his epithet, and to add potential evidence dealing with the attitude of the Macedonians, Alexander"s own people, in their king"s absence. It is important to stress that when evaluating Alexander it is essential to view the "package" of king as a whole; i.e., as king, commander and statesman. All too often this is not the case. There is no question that Alexander was spectacularly successful in the military field, and had Alexander only been a general his epithet may well have been deserved. But he was not just a general; he was a king too, and hence military exploits form only a percentage of what Alexander did, or did not do -- in other words, we must look at the 'package' of him as king as a whole. By its nature this paper is impressionistic, and it can only deal rapidly with selected examples from Alexander's reign and discuss points briefly. However, given the unequalled influence Alexander has played in cultures and history from the time of his death to today, it is important to stress that there is a chasm of a difference between the mythical Alexander, which for the most part we have today, and the historical.

Alexander died in 323, and over the course of time the mythical king and his exploits sprang into being. Alexander himself was not above embellishing his own life and achievements. He very likely told the court historian Callisthenes of Olynthus what to say about his victory over Darius III at the battle of Issus in 333, for example.[5] Contemporary Attic oratory also exaggerated his achievements,[6] and so within a generation of his death erroneous stories were already being told.

As time continued we move into the genre of pulp fiction. In the third or second century BC Alexander's exploits formed the plot of the story known as the Alexander Romance, which added significantly to the Alexander legend and had such a massive influence on many cultures into the Middle Ages.[7] Given its life-span, deeds were attributed to Alexander which are unhistorical, such as his encounters with the tribe of headless men, his flying exploits in a basket borne by eagles, and the search for the Water of Life, which ended with his transformation into a mermaid. These stories became illustrative fodder for the various manuscripts of the Alexander Romance -- one of the most popular episodes is Alexander's ascent to heaven, inspired by the myth of Bellerephon to fly to Mount Olympus on Pegasus, which is found in many Byzantine and later art-works, sculptures and paintings. As a result of the Romance Alexander astonishingly appears in the literature of other cultures: in Hebrew literature, for example, he was seen as a preacher and prophet, who even becomes converted to Christianity. In Persian literature he is the hero Sikandar, sent to punish the impure peoples. In the West he appears as a Frank, a Goth, a Russian and a Saxon.

Then there is Plutarch, writing in the late first and second century AD, who has probably done the most damage to our knowing the historical Alexander. In his treatise On The Fortune or The Virtue of Alexander, Plutarch was swayed (understandably) by the social background against which he was writing and especially by his own philosophical beliefs, and he portrayed Alexander as both an action man and a philosopher-king, whose mission was to impose Greek civilisation on the 'barbarian' Persians. Plutarch's work is essentially a rhetorical exercise, but as time continued

The Alexander legend was a ready feeding ground for artists throughout the centuries as well. When Alexander invaded Persia in 334 he detoured to Troy to sacrifice at the tomb of his hero Achilles. This was a stirring story, which became a model for heroic piety in the Renaissance and later periods; thus, for example, we have Fontebasso's painting of Alexander's sacrifice at Achilles' tomb in the eighteenth century. In modern Greece Alexander became both an art-work and a symbol, as seen in the painting by Engonopoulos in 1977 of the face-less Alexander standing with his arm around the face-less Pavlos Melas, a modern hero of the struggle for Macedonian independence.

Thus, we can see how the historical Alexander has faded into the invincible general, the great leader, explorer and king, as time continued, especially in the Middle Ages with its world of chivalry, warriors and great battles: a superb context into which to fit Alexander, even if this meant distortion of the truth, and history subsumed to legend. Indeed, during the Middle Ages was regarded as one of the four great kings of the ancient world. Let us now consider some specific aspects of Alexander's reign in support of this.

In 334 Alexander III left home for Asia, entrusting to Antipater as guardian (epitropos) a stable -- for a while -- Greece and Macedon (Arr. 1.11.3). The king also unilaterally made Antipater deputy hegemon in the League of Corinth. Alexander's 'mandate' or prime directive, as inherited from his father Philip II and endorsed by the League of Corinth, was to pursue his father's plan of punishing the Persians for their sacrilegious acts of 150 years ago and to 'liberate' (whatever that meant) the Greek cities of Asia Minor. In other words, a panhellenic mandate. After he had fulfilled it, people quite rightly would have expected him to return home. People were wrong: the king would soon disregard the prime directive for personal reasons, causing discontent amongst the army with him and also, even more ominously, with his countrymen back home.

We have a fair amount of information for events in mainland Greece, especially Athens, during the reign of Alexander, however events in Macedon in this period are undocumented and largely unknown. We certainly cannot say that there was a hiatus in Macedonian history, for Antipater kept Macedon powerful and united while Alexander was absent, so much so that there was economic growth, and education and military training, for example, remained at a high standard.[9] However, appearance is not likely to reflect reality. Macedon in this period may well have been fraught with discontent, and it provides insights into the Macedonians' attitude to their king and he to them. At the same time a consideration of the Macedonian background also lends further weight to questioning the aptness of Alexander's title 'Great'.

Alexander's military successes throughout his reign were spectacular to a very large degree -- and certainly manufactured by the king to be great (see below) -- and we should expect his people back home to feel proud of their king at the head of his panhellenic mission of punishment and liberation, and to proclaim his victories to all and sundry. His deeds and the geographical extent of his conquests were certainly known for we have references to them in contemporary Attic oratory.[10] However, the impression which strikes us about the Macedonians themselves is that Alexander was far from their idea of an ideal king. Why might they feel this way? In addressing this, we can begin with the vexed question of Macedonian manpower. Did Alexander's demands for reinforcements from the mainland seriously deplete the fighting strength of the army under Antipater? Did he make these demands regardless of the pressure under which he was putting Antipater and without regard for the lives of his people and the security of his kingdom from external threat? And if so, how did the people feel and how did they react?

I take as my example the abortive war of Agis III of 331. This is the only Greek attempt at the overthrow of the Macedonian hegemony which we know about from the time Alexander left for Persia until his death, and therefore it is significant. It is impossible to determine the fighting strength of Macedon at this time,[11] and Badian's most recent discussion of this complex issue, which effectively rebuts the views of others, will no doubt be itself challenged at some point.[12] While Billows and Badian argue that the fighting strength of Macedon was never depleted to the extent that there was a serious manpower problem, numerical accuracy is not the issue here. It has to be said that Agis III had posed no small threat to Antipater, and that the latter's forces were not at full strength (Diodorus 18.12.2 says that Antipater was short of 'citizen soldiers', i.e. Macedonians proper), and he had just sent 6,500 Macedonians to Alexander. Alexander had left Antipater with only 13,500 Macedonians (12,000 infantry and 1500 cavalry), and when the king needed reinforcements the first year he crossed into Asia he had had to resort to somewhat hastily-levied local troops (Arr. 1.24.2). In 332 Alexander needed more men (Diod. 17.49.1, Curt. 4.6.30), this time from the Greek mainland; in 331, 500 cavalry and 6000 infantry arrived after the battle of Gaugamela (Diod. 17.65.1, Curt. 5.1.40), and as late as 324 Antipater had orders to bring more men to him (Arr. 7.12.4). Antipater was never able to rebuild his manpower significantly. Even in the so-called Lamian War, which broke out on Alexander's death and lasted about a year, he had only 600 cavalry and 13,000 infantry and was forced to recruit soldiers from elsewhere -- and we know what a detrimental impact on his forces the desertion of the 2,000 strong contingent of Thessalian cavalry was and how Antipater only just managed to struggle to Lamia for refuge (Diod. 18.12.3-4). Moreover, it was only the timely arrivals of Leonnatus and then Craterus with several thousand Macedonian veterans that saved the day.

Agis III had accepted ten ships and money from Persia to hire 8,000 mercenaries (Diod. 17.48.1, Curt. 4.1.39), with which he occupied Crete, and so in late 331 Sparta was able to mobilise a fairly formidable force. Then in the same year Memnon, the general of Thrace, and in command of a powerful army (Diod. 17.62.5), leagued with some Thracians and rose in revolt, thereby stretching Antipater's own army further. Antipater had to lead all his army into Thrace to put down this rising (Diod. 17.62.6). This episode shows not only the ever-present danger of external threats to the kingdom's security but also the need for an adequate army -- something denied to Antipater. Although Antipater dealt with Memnon and with Agis successfully, his manpower reserve had been depleted since he had need of a large sum from Alexander (Arr. 3.16.10) to boost his small force of 1500 cavalry and 12,000 infantry (Diod. 17.17.5), and we later find -- in 325 -- Memnon leading 5,000 Thracian cavalry to Alexander in Asia since Macedon could not then have raised such a large force of cavalry.

Alexander's money on this occasion had helped to save the day, but money cannot be the answer to solving problems: the king should not have continued to demand troops which could, and did, weaken Antipater's position. Take the Thracian discontent at this time, Agis' insurgence, Peloponnesian stirrings, and throw in a potential revolt of the Greek states (as Agis must have intended) and we have a recipe for disaster.[13] These threats would not have been lost on the Macedonians, and we simply cannot imagine they would not have been worried by them.

Perhaps Alexander relied too much on money buying his way out of trouble. Whilst he may be acclaimed for rewarding his men with high pay, various bonuses, remission of taxes in certain cases, cancellation of soldiers' debts and various signs of royal favour (Arr. 1.16.5, 7.5.1-3, 12.1-2), the argument can be made that such measures were to ensure the loyalty of his men, especially as he pushed further eastwards after defeating the Persians so decisively. And the question is, what happened when money and favour were no longer enough, especially when we consider the 'down side' such as the huge numbers of casualties stemming from Alexander's battles,[14] the numerous demands for reinforcements, and especially the forced settlement from Macedon and Greece to the newly-founded cities at the farthest ends of the world?[15] There was also the worrying news from those who did return home of Alexander's drunken rages which resulted in him killing -- either by his own hands or from false implication in conspiracies -- some of those close to him, his paranoia, his orientalism, and even his belief that he was divine as a son of Zeus. Another factor too is that his people back home did not know Alexander as a man and a king: he had only been home as king for about two years before he left his country, and he showed no signs of coming back until his men forced the issue with a mutiny (see below). Macedon needed a king, and Alexander was not there.

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That Alexander's money and favour proved insufficient and discontent grew are proved by the two mutinies which he faced in 326 at the Hyphasis (Beas) river and in 324 at Opis (on the use of the term 'mutiny' see below). In 326 while at Taxila Alexander heard that the Indian prince Porus was defying him, and so marched to do battle at the Hydaspes river. He was successful, and Porus was defeated. Rather than return to Taxila to recuperate and more importantly sit out the monsoon weather, Alexander ordered his men to continue their advance into India. His pothos -- personal longing (note again the personal element) -- to conquer more territory was frustrated when his men mutinied at the Hyphasis river.[16] Perhaps more than just seventy days of marching endlessly through monsoon rains into more unknown territory was at the heart of the issue. After all, Curtius says (9.2.3) that King Aggrammes (sic) was reported to be waiting at the Delhi gap with a force which included 3,000 elephants. Curtius believed this was true, and we know that the Nanda kings of Magadha had a more powerful state than any of the ones Alexander tangled with so far. Thus, another battle loomed, one in which Alexander's men had no desire to participate, and they refused to follow him further. Alexander sulked in his tent like his Homeric hero Achilles for three days, but to no avail. His bluff was called and Coenus, representing the views of the men, prevailed. Alexander was forced to turn back, and by late September 326 he was once again at the Hydaspes. Coenus' defiance of Alexander earned him little in the way of reward as a few days after the Hyphasis mutiny he was found dead in suspicious circumstances (Arr. 6.2.1, Curt. 9.3.20). The coincidence is too much, and, as with others who flouted Alexander (see below), we can see the hand of a furious and spiteful king at work here.

Athough Alexander might try to disguise the lack of advance at the Hyphasis river as due to unfavourable omens (Arr. 5.3.6), no one would be unaware that the real reason was that the army en masse simply did not want to go further.[17] Again needless risk-taking followed: instead of retracing his steps he went for another route, through the Gedrosian desert.[18] Starvation, heat, little water, and flash flooding had their effects, and as the march continued the baggage animals had to be slaughtered for food (Arr. 6.25.2). Plutarch (Alexander 66.4-5) talks of the army reduced to a quarter of its original size; although this is over-exaggeration, there is no doubt that this march was a major logistical blunder on the part of Alexander, and that it unnecessarily cost many lives.

A few years later in 324 Alexander was faced with another mutiny, this time at Opis, not far from Babylon. At Opis Alexander announced that his veteran soldiers and those injured were to be discharged and that he had ordered new blood from Macedon.[19] For some reason the older soldiers saw Alexander's move as tantamount to a rejection of them and of their capabilities, and the remaining soldiers had no wish to remain and fight with Persians and Iranians. For the second time in his reign Alexander was hit with a mutiny, this time over his orientalising policy. Once again, Alexander sulked in his tent for two days, and then he called his men's bluff by announcing that Macedonian military commands and titles were to be transferred to selected Persians. His men capitulated at once, and the clash was resolved with the famous banquet, in which Macedonian, Greek, Persian and Iranian sipped from the same cup and Alexander prayed for homonoia or concord (Arr. 7.11.9).[20]

The term 'mutiny' for the army's resistance to Alexander on both occasions has lately been queried. For example, Bosworth has this to say on the Opis incident: 'This protest can hardly be dignified with the term mutiny that is universally applied to it. The troops confined themselves to verbal complaints, but they were contumacious and wounding.'[21] It is important to look beyond the immediate context of both 'protests' to their full implications. The degree to which the men mouthed insults at the king or criticised his behaviour and plans is irrelevant. The crucial point is that in both instances the army as a whole stood fast against the orders of Alexander. This was outright rebellion against the king and commander; refusal to obey the orders of a superior in this manner is mutiny. The 326 incident ended only when Alexander agreed to his army's demands to turn back. Although Alexander's bluff was successful at Opis, it was only when he cunningly played on the racial tensions that his men capitulated. Until that time they had stood fast against him, and there is no indication of a change of mood until Alexander adopted the strategy he did. The Macedonians might well have needed Alexander in the far east (cf. Arr. 6.12.1-3), but this did not stop them from defying him when they felt the situation demanded it. Both incidents were quite simply mutinies, and as such votes of no confidence in Alexander as a military commander and as a king.[22]

Alexander's generalship and actual military victories may be questioned in several key areas. For example, after the battle of Issus in 333 Darius fled towards Media, but Alexander pressed on to Egypt. He did not pursue Darius, as he surely ought to have done and thus consolidate his gains, especially when so far from home and with the mood of the locals so prone to fluctuation, but left him alone. He was more interested in what lay to the south: the riches of Babylon and then Susa, or as Arrian describes them (3.16.2) the 'prizes of the war'. However, a war can hardly be seen as won if the opposing king and commander remains at large and has the potential to regroup. Alexander's action was lucky for Darius, then, as he was able to regroup his forces and bring Alexander to battle again almost two years later, at Gaugamela (331). It was not lucky for Alexander, though, and especially so for those men on both sides who fell needlessly that day in yet another battle.

We have also the various sieges which Alexander undertook and which were often lengthy, costly, and questionable. A case in point is that of Tyre in 332 as Alexander made his way to Egypt after his victory at Issus. In Phoenicia Byblos and Sidon surrendered to Alexander, as did the island town (as it was then) of Tyre until the king expressed his personal desire to sacrifice in the main temple there. Quite rightly considering his demand sacrilegious, the Tyrians resisted him and Alexander, his ego affronted and refusing to back down, laid siege to the town.[23] The siege itself lasted several months, cost the king a fortune in money and manpower, and resulted in the slaughter of the male Tyrians and the selling of the Tyrian women and children into slavery. There is no question that control of Tyre was essential since Alexander could not afford a revolt of the Phoenician cities, given their traditional rivalries, as he pushed on to Egypt. Nor indeed, if we believe his speech at Arrian 2.17, could he allow Tyre independence with the Persian navy a threat and the Phoenician fleet the strongest contingent in it. However, there was no guarantee that the destruction of Tyre would result in the Phoencian fleet surrendering to him as he only seems to have expected it would (Arr. 2.17.3). Moreover, laying siege to Tyre was not necessary: he could simply have left a garrison, for example, on the mainland opposite the town to keep it in check. Another option, given that the Tyrians had originally surrendered to him, would have been the diplomatic one: to recognise the impiety of his demand in their eyes and thus relinquish it, thereby continuing on his way speedily and with their goodwill. Ultimately no real gain came from his siege except to Alexander on a purely personal level again: his damaged ego had been repaired; the cost in time, manpower and reputation mattered little.

Alexander's great military victories over his Persian and Indian foes which have so long occupied a place in popular folklore and been much admired throughout the centuries are very likely to have been embellished and nothing like the popular conceptions of them. A case in point is the battle of Issus in 333. Darius threw victory away at that battle and he was, to put it bluntly, a mediocre commander -- the battle might have been very different if Alexander had faced a more competent commander such as Memnon, for example. Alexander was lucky, but this does not come in the 'official' account we have of the battle, probably since he told Callisthenes, the court historian, what to write about it.

Luck again is the principal factor in Alexander's victory at Granicus the previous year (334). His river crossing is commendable, no doubt against that, but against an outnumbered and hastily-levied Persian contingent, and with no Great King present in order to exhort and to lead the troops in person, it comes as no surprise that the Macedonians and their superbly drilled phalanx were victorious. Similarly embellished, perhaps distorted out of all proportion even, is the 'great' battle against Porus in India at the Hydaspes river in 326.[24] Alexander effected a brilliant river crossing against his Indian foe, given the swelling of that river by the seasonal rains and melting of the snow in the Himalayas, but in reality the battle was over before it began. Porus was outnumbered and outclassed, and he and his army never stood a chance. However, we would never know this from our sources or indeed from the commemorative coinage which Alexander struck to mark his defeat of Porus, and which are pure propaganda to exaggerate that defeat.[25]

The king's own men would know. And word would filter through to the Macedonians back home. Alexander's growing orientalism, as seen in his apparent integration of foreigners into his administration and army, was a cause of great discontent as the traditional Macedonian warrior-king transformed himself into something akin to a sultan. He began to change his appearance, preferring a mixture of Persian and Macedonian clothing, despite the obvious displeasure of his troops (Arr. 7.8.2), and he had also assumed the upright tiara, the symbol of Persian kingship (Arr. 4.7.4). Some saw the writing on the wall and duly pandered to the king. Thus, Peucestas, the Macedonian satrap of Persis, was well rewarded by the king for adopting Persian dress and learning the Persian language (Arr. 6.30.2-3). However, he was the only Macedonian to do so according to Arrian.

Significant also was Alexander's attempt to adopt the Persian custom of proskynesis -- genuflection -- at his court in Bactra in 327, and his expectation that his men would follow suit.[26] Proskynesis was a social act which had long been practised by the Persians and involved prostrating oneself before the person of the king in an act of subservience, and thereby accepting his lordship. The custom however was regarded as tantamount to worship and thus sacrilegious to the Greeks -- worship of a god or a dead hero was one thing, but worship of a person while still alive quite another. Callisthenes thwarted Alexander's attempt (Arr. 4.10.5-12.1), something which the king never forgot and which would soon cost Callisthenes his life in sadistic circumstances (Arr. 4.14.1-3, Curt. 8.6.24).

Why Alexander tried to introduce proskynesis is unknown. Perhaps he was simply attempting to create a form of social protocol common to Macedonians, Greeks and Persians. However, he would have been well aware of the religious connotations associated with the act and hence its implications for his own being. It was plain stupidity on his part if he thought his men would embrace the custom with relish, and his action clearly shows that he had lost touch with his army and the religious beliefs on which he had been raised. Evidence for this may be seen in the motives for the Pages' Conspiracy, a serious attempt on Alexander's life, which occurred not long after Alexander tried to enforce proskynesis on all. A more likely explanation for the attempt to introduce proskynesis is that Alexander now thought of himself as divine (cf. Arr. 4.9.9, Curt. 8.5.5), and thus proskynesis was a logical means of recognising his divine status in public by all men (see below).

Indeed, Alexander's belief that he was divine impacts adversely on any evaluation of him. History is riddled with megalomaniacs who along the way suffered from divine pretensions, and the epithet 'Great' is not attached to them. Regardless of whether his father Philip II was worshipped as a god on his death,[27] Alexander seems not to have been content with merely following in his footsteps but to believe in his own divine status while alive.[28]

Alexander had visited the oracle of Zeus Ammon in the oasis at Siwah in the winter of 332, shortly after his entry into Egypt, and there he apparently received confirmation from the priests that he was a son of Zeus.[29] From that time onwards he openly called himself son of Zeus as opposed to descendant of Zeus. It is important to stress the distinction since he was technically a descendant of Zeus through Heracles. That sort of association the people would have accepted, but they baulked at Alexander at first setting himself up as a son of a god even though born from a mortal mother. Later, as his megalomania increased, he would believe he was divine while alive. Thus, during the Opis mutiny Arrian indicates that his men mocked their king's association with Zeus Ammon (Arr. 7.8.3). This took place in 324, so obviously over the intervening years the situation had grown from bad to worse, with little or nothing on the part of Alexander to pour oil on troubled waters.

If anything, Alexander ignored the displeasure of his men if his move to introduce proskynesis at his court in 327, as noted above, was meant to be a means of recognising his divinity. The setback here was soon forgotten as in 326 Alexander was again adamant about his divine status (Arr. 7.2.3). Moreover, Alexander did not restrict his superhuman status to the army with him; by 324 we know from our sources that the Greeks of the mainland were debating his deification,[30] and that there was widespread resistance to it.[31] Evidently his divine status was a serious source of contention amongst his people back home and those with him, yet Alexander ignored it -- hardly the mark of a great king, commander and statesman intent on maintaining the loyalty of his troops and indeed of his people

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hat Alexander's money and favour proved insufficient and discontent grew are proved by the two mutinies which he faced in 326 at the Hyphasis (Beas) river and in 324 at Opis (on the use of the term 'mutiny' see below). In 326 while at Taxila Alexander heard that the Indian prince Porus was defying him, and so marched to do battle at the Hydaspes river. He was successful, and Porus was defeated. Rather than return to Taxila to recuperate and more importantly sit out the monsoon weather, Alexander ordered his men to continue their advance into India. His pothos -- personal longing (note again the personal element) -- to conquer more territory was frustrated when his men mutinied at the Hyphasis river.[16] Perhaps more than just seventy days of marching endlessly through monsoon rains into more unknown territory was at the heart of the issue. After all, Curtius says (9.2.3) that King Aggrammes (sic) was reported to be waiting at the Delhi gap with a force which included 3,000 elephants. Curtius believed this was true, and we know that the Nanda kings of Magadha had a more powerful state than any of the ones Alexander tangled with so far. Thus, another battle loomed, one in which Alexander's men had no desire to participate, and they refused to follow him further. Alexander sulked in his tent like his Homeric hero Achilles for three days, but to no avail. His bluff was called and Coenus, representing the views of the men, prevailed. Alexander was forced to turn back, and by late September 326 he was once again at the Hydaspes. Coenus' defiance of Alexander earned him little in the way of reward as a few days after the Hyphasis mutiny he was found dead in suspicious circumstances (Arr. 6.2.1, Curt. 9.3.20). The coincidence is too much, and, as with others who flouted Alexander (see below), we can see the hand of a furious and spiteful king at work here.

Athough Alexander might try to disguise the lack of advance at the Hyphasis river as due to unfavourable omens (Arr. 5.3.6), no one would be unaware that the real reason was that the army en masse simply did not want to go further.[17] Again needless risk-taking followed: instead of retracing his steps he went for another route, through the Gedrosian desert.[18] Starvation, heat, little water, and flash flooding had their effects, and as the march continued the baggage animals had to be slaughtered for food (Arr. 6.25.2). Plutarch (Alexander 66.4-5) talks of the army reduced to a quarter of its original size; although this is over-exaggeration, there is no doubt that this march was a major logistical blunder on the part of Alexander, and that it unnecessarily cost many lives.

A few years later in 324 Alexander was faced with another mutiny, this time at Opis, not far from Babylon. At Opis Alexander announced that his veteran soldiers and those injured were to be discharged and that he had ordered new blood from Macedon.[19] For some reason the older soldiers saw Alexander's move as tantamount to a rejection of them and of their capabilities, and the remaining soldiers had no wish to remain and fight with Persians and Iranians. For the second time in his reign Alexander was hit with a mutiny, this time over his orientalising policy. Once again, Alexander sulked in his tent for two days, and then he called his men's bluff by announcing that Macedonian military commands and titles were to be transferred to selected Persians. His men capitulated at once, and the clash was resolved with the famous banquet, in which Macedonian, Greek, Persian and Iranian sipped from the same cup and Alexander prayed for homonoia or concord (Arr. 7.11.9).[20]

The term 'mutiny' for the army's resistance to Alexander on both occasions has lately been queried. For example, Bosworth has this to say on the Opis incident: 'This protest can hardly be dignified with the term mutiny that is universally applied to it. The troops confined themselves to verbal complaints, but they were contumacious and wounding.'[21] It is important to look beyond the immediate context of both 'protests' to their full implications. The degree to which the men mouthed insults at the king or criticised his behaviour and plans is irrelevant. The crucial point is that in both instances the army as a whole stood fast against the orders of Alexander. This was outright rebellion against the king and commander; refusal to obey the orders of a superior in this manner is mutiny. The 326 incident ended only when Alexander agreed to his army's demands to turn back. Although Alexander's bluff was successful at Opis, it was only when he cunningly played on the racial tensions that his men capitulated. Until that time they had stood fast against him, and there is no indication of a change of mood until Alexander adopted the strategy he did. The Macedonians might well have needed Alexander in the far east (cf. Arr. 6.12.1-3), but this did not stop them from defying him when they felt the situation demanded it. Both incidents were quite simply mutinies, and as such votes of no confidence in Alexander as a military commander and as a king.[22]

Alexander's generalship and actual military victories may be questioned in several key areas. For example, after the battle of Issus in 333 Darius fled towards Media, but Alexander pressed on to Egypt. He did not pursue Darius, as he surely ought to have done and thus consolidate his gains, especially when so far from home and with the mood of the locals so prone to fluctuation, but left him alone. He was more interested in what lay to the south: the riches of Babylon and then Susa, or as Arrian describes them (3.16.2) the 'prizes of the war'. However, a war can hardly be seen as won if the opposing king and commander remains at large and has the potential to regroup. Alexander's action was lucky for Darius, then, as he was able to regroup his forces and bring Alexander to battle again almost two years later, at Gaugamela (331). It was not lucky for Alexander, though, and especially so for those men on both sides who fell needlessly that day in yet another battle.

We have also the various sieges which Alexander undertook and which were often lengthy, costly, and questionable. A case in point is that of Tyre in 332 as Alexander made his way to Egypt after his victory at Issus. In Phoenicia Byblos and Sidon surrendered to Alexander, as did the island town (as it was then) of Tyre until the king expressed his personal desire to sacrifice in the main temple there. Quite rightly considering his demand sacrilegious, the Tyrians resisted him and Alexander, his ego affronted and refusing to back down, laid siege to the town.[23] The siege itself lasted several months, cost the king a fortune in money and manpower, and resulted in the slaughter of the male Tyrians and the selling of the Tyrian women and children into slavery. There is no question that control of Tyre was essential since Alexander could not afford a revolt of the Phoenician cities, given their traditional rivalries, as he pushed on to Egypt. Nor indeed, if we believe his speech at Arrian 2.17, could he allow Tyre independence with the Persian navy a threat and the Phoenician fleet the strongest contingent in it. However, there was no guarantee that the destruction of Tyre would result in the Phoencian fleet surrendering to him as he only seems to have expected it would (Arr. 2.17.3). Moreover, laying siege to Tyre was not necessary: he could simply have left a garrison, for example, on the mainland opposite the town to keep it in check. Another option, given that the Tyrians had originally surrendered to him, would have been the diplomatic one: to recognise the impiety of his demand in their eyes and thus relinquish it, thereby continuing on his way speedily and with their goodwill. Ultimately no real gain came from his siege except to Alexander on a purely personal level again: his damaged ego had been repaired; the cost in time, manpower and reputation mattered little.

Alexander's great military victories over his Persian and Indian foes which have so long occupied a place in popular folklore and been much admired throughout the centuries are very likely to have been embellished and nothing like the popular conceptions of them. A case in point is the battle of Issus in 333. Darius threw victory away at that battle and he was, to put it bluntly, a mediocre commander -- the battle might have been very different if Alexander had faced a more competent commander such as Memnon, for example. Alexander was lucky, but this does not come in the 'official' account we have of the battle, probably since he told Callisthenes, the court historian, what to write about it.

Luck again is the principal factor in Alexander's victory at Granicus the previous year (334). His river crossing is commendable, no doubt against that, but against an outnumbered and hastily-levied Persian contingent, and with no Great King present in order to exhort and to lead the troops in person, it comes as no surprise that the Macedonians and their superbly drilled phalanx were victorious. Similarly embellished, perhaps distorted out of all proportion even, is the 'great' battle against Porus in India at the Hydaspes river in 326.[24] Alexander effected a brilliant river crossing against his Indian foe, given the swelling of that river by the seasonal rains and melting of the snow in the Himalayas, but in reality the battle was over before it began. Porus was outnumbered and outclassed, and he and his army never stood a chance. However, we would never know this from our sources or indeed from the commemorative coinage which Alexander struck to mark his defeat of Porus, and which are pure propaganda to exaggerate that defeat.[25]

The king's own men would know. And word would filter through to the Macedonians back home. Alexander's growing orientalism, as seen in his apparent integration of foreigners into his administration and army, was a cause of great discontent as the traditional Macedonian warrior-king transformed himself into something akin to a sultan. He began to change his appearance, preferring a mixture of Persian and Macedonian clothing, despite the obvious displeasure of his troops (Arr. 7.8.2), and he had also assumed the upright tiara, the symbol of Persian kingship (Arr. 4.7.4). Some saw the writing on the wall and duly pandered to the king. Thus, Peucestas, the Macedonian satrap of Persis, was well rewarded by the king for adopting Persian dress and learning the Persian language (Arr. 6.30.2-3). However, he was the only Macedonian to do so according to Arrian.

Significant also was Alexander's attempt to adopt the Persian custom of proskynesis -- genuflection -- at his court in Bactra in 327, and his expectation that his men would follow suit.[26] Proskynesis was a social act which had long been practised by the Persians and involved prostrating oneself before the person of the king in an act of subservience, and thereby accepting his lordship. The custom however was regarded as tantamount to worship and thus sacrilegious to the Greeks -- worship of a god or a dead hero was one thing, but worship of a person while still alive quite another. Callisthenes thwarted Alexander's attempt (Arr. 4.10.5-12.1), something which the king never forgot and which would soon cost Callisthenes his life in sadistic circumstances (Arr. 4.14.1-3, Curt. 8.6.24).

Why Alexander tried to introduce proskynesis is unknown. Perhaps he was simply attempting to create a form of social protocol common to Macedonians, Greeks and Persians. However, he would have been well aware of the religious connotations associated with the act and hence its implications for his own being. It was plain stupidity on his part if he thought his men would embrace the custom with relish, and his action clearly shows that he had lost touch with his army and the religious beliefs on which he had been raised. Evidence for this may be seen in the motives for the Pages' Conspiracy, a serious attempt on Alexander's life, which occurred not long after Alexander tried to enforce proskynesis on all. A more likely explanation for the attempt to introduce proskynesis is that Alexander now thought of himself as divine (cf. Arr. 4.9.9, Curt. 8.5.5), and thus proskynesis was a logical means of recognising his divine status in public by all men (see below).

Indeed, Alexander's belief that he was divine impacts adversely on any evaluation of him. History is riddled with megalomaniacs who along the way suffered from divine pretensions, and the epithet 'Great' is not attached to them. Regardless of whether his father Philip II was worshipped as a god on his death,[27] Alexander seems not to have been content with merely following in his footsteps but to believe in his own divine status while alive.[28]

Alexander had visited the oracle of Zeus Ammon in the oasis at Siwah in the winter of 332, shortly after his entry into Egypt, and there he apparently received confirmation from the priests that he was a son of Zeus.[29] From that time onwards he openly called himself son of Zeus as opposed to descendant of Zeus. It is important to stress the distinction since he was technically a descendant of Zeus through Heracles. That sort of association the people would have accepted, but they baulked at Alexander at first setting himself up as a son of a god even though born from a mortal mother. Later, as his megalomania increased, he would believe he was divine while alive. Thus, during the Opis mutiny Arrian indicates that his men mocked their king's association with Zeus Ammon (Arr. 7.8.3). This took place in 324, so obviously over the intervening years the situation had grown from bad to worse, with little or nothing on the part of Alexander to pour oil on troubled waters.

If anything, Alexander ignored the displeasure of his men if his move to introduce proskynesis at his court in 327, as noted above, was meant to be a means of recognising his divinity. The setback here was soon forgotten as in 326 Alexander was again adamant about his divine status (Arr. 7.2.3). Moreover, Alexander did not restrict his superhuman status to the army with him; by 324 we know from our sources that the Greeks of the mainland were debating his deification,[30] and that there was widespread resistance to it.[31] Evidently his divine status was a serious source of contention amongst his people back home and those with him, yet Alexander ignored it -- hardly the mark of a great king, commander and statesman intent on maintaining the loyalty of his troops and indeed of his people.
 

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This is interesting and somehow funny, given that we overstep in our reliance and blind faith in the Greek sources when it comes to Alexander and his affairs in India :-

Strabo (c. 65 BC – c. 24 AD) volume II, chapter I, section 9
"Generally speaking, the men who hitherto have written on the affairs of India were a set of liars. Deimachus holds the first place in the list, Megasthenes comes next"¦ Of this we became the more convinced whilst writing the history of Alexander. No faith whatever can be placed in Deimachus and Megasthenes."
Perseus Under Philologic: Str. 2.1.10
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We know that Gold stock and Territory of Porus cannot double if he had indeed lost to Alexander.
But even if we put that side, in case Alexander had won on Porus shouldn't the former be better equipped, supported and informed during his retreat/exit from India.
He should have been able to leverage atleast that much, from his supposed victories.
But no he was precarious, all alone, on his own. What does that tell?
 

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We know that Gold stock and Territory of Porus cannot double if he had indeed lost to Alexander.
But even if we put that side, in case Alexander had won on Porus shouldn't the former be better equipped, supported and informed during his retreat/exit from India.
He should have been able to leverage atleast that much, from his supposed victories.
But no he was precarious, all alone, on his own. What does that tell?
This is an excerpt from an earlier post that I made on this topic:
civfanatic said:
My own personal view is that the conflict between Alexander and Porus was largely indecisive. If there was a "victor", then the victory was probably a Pyrrhic and marginal one. Alexander was probably unable to fully subdue Porus, who remained a key political figure in the region; likewise, Porus was probably unable to fully repel the Macedonians, who remained a major threat to the security of Porus' kingdom. In such a scenario, it would have been in the interest of both monarchs to reach an agreement and form an alliance, which they probably did. The Greek historians do state that Porus continued to rule lands in the Punjab after Alexander left. But at the same time, the Macedonians also remained in India; indeed, Porus' kingdom was later usurped by one of Alexander's former generals who was left behind in the region (see Eudemus (general) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). It was only later that the Macedonians were totally repulsed from India, by Chandragupta Maurya. If Porus had decisively defeated Alexander, and caused him to flee, how could the Macedonians have remained in India 10 years after the battles between Alexander and Porus?
 

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We know that Gold stock and Territory of Porus cannot double if he had indeed lost to Alexander.
But even if we put that side, in case Alexander had won on Porus shouldn't the former be better equipped, supported and informed during his retreat/exit from India.
He should have been able to leverage atleast that much, from his supposed victories.
But no he was precarious, all alone, on his own. What does that tell?
This is an excerpt from an earlier post that I made on this topic:
civfanatic said:
My own personal view is that the conflict between Alexander and Porus was largely indecisive. If there was a "victor", then the victory was probably a Pyrrhic and marginal one. Alexander was probably unable to fully subdue Porus, who remained a key political figure in the region; likewise, Porus was probably unable to fully repel the Macedonians, who remained a major threat to the security of Porus' kingdom. In such a scenario, it would have been in the interest of both monarchs to reach an agreement and form an alliance, which they probably did. The Greek historians do state that Porus continued to rule lands in the Punjab after Alexander left. But at the same time, the Macedonians also remained in India; indeed, Porus' kingdom was later usurped by one of Alexander's former generals who was left behind in the region (see Eudemus (general) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). It was only later that the Macedonians were totally repulsed from India, by Chandragupta Maurya. If Porus had decisively defeated Alexander, and caused him to flee, how could the Macedonians have remained in India 10 years after the battles between Alexander and Porus?
I generally agree with @civfanatic here.

There is a book "Chanakya" by B.K. Chaturvedi, that clearly explains what happened. In the preface, the author declares that he has reconstructed the entire event from Chanakya's childhood till the establishment of the Mauryan Empire. He also says that not everything he has written has a testimony, but he had to plug some holes in the entire narrative. However, his narrative on the Battle of Hydaspes seems to match what is largely believed by most historians. I would definitely recommend that book to everyone.

Coming back to the Battle of Hydaspes, it must be said that there was rain, and there was mud and slush, where Porus' elephants became ineffective, and ended up creating more confusion than destroying the Greek columns. Alexander also used a lot of tactic to have Porus captured. If he weren't captured, things might have been different. The Greek soldiers, even after this, became mutinous, because the Greek army had taken massive mauling and was thoroughly demoralized. Even when attempting an exit, Alexander had to beg safe passage from the regional warlords, and the student army that Chandragupta was leading, and using to ambush retreating Greek infantry and cavalcades.
 
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Alexander is just another Geek Fable.
 

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This is an excerpt from an earlier post that I made on this topic:
....If Porus had decisively defeated Alexander, and caused him to flee, how could the Macedonians have remained in India 10 years after the battles between Alexander and Porus?
Porus was not the emperor of India to repulse Alexander out of India completely.
He only ruled one of the many Kingdoms in the north.
Do we know of any Macedonian Garrisons inside Porus's Kingdom?
If Alexander was not running for his life, if he had dominated Porus and other Kingdoms; his retreat would have been much comfortable.
At least that much leverage, support and co-operation he would have managed from his victories / negotiations / alliances .. (whatever we call them) to be able to retreat properly.

By the way his Sanskrit name is 'Aliksundara' :D

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Do we know of any Macedonian Garrisons inside Porus's Kingdom?
It is possible that there were indeed Macedonian troops left within Porus' kingdom. If not a physical military presence, the Macedonians certainly had some degree of influence over Porus and his realm. We know that a Greek general named Eudemus (who I had mentioned earlier) was left with Taxiles (Ambhi) with a contingent of troops, after Alexander had departed from India. Eudemus later killed Porus and usurped his kingdom.

From the Bibliotheca historia of Diodorus Siculus:
From India came Eudamus with five hundred horsemen, three hundred footmen, and one hundred and twenty elephants. These beasts he had secured after the death of Alexander by treacherously slaying King Porus. In all there were assembled with the satraps more than eighteen thousand seven hundred infantry and four thousand six hundred cavalry.
Link: LacusCurtius "¢ Diodorus Siculus — Book-XIX Chapters-10"‘48

If Alexander was not running for his life, if he had dominated Porus and other Kingdoms; his retreat would have been much comfortable.
At least that much leverage, support and co-operation he would have managed from his victories / negotiations / alliances .. (whatever we call them) to be able to retreat properly.
That is speculation. Moreover, we are not claiming that Alexander achieved a total victory over the various kingdoms and chiefdoms of the Indus region. There were quite likely still considerable pockets of resistance.
 

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We know that a Greek general named Eudemus (who I had mentioned earlier) was left with Taxiles (Ambhi) with a contingent of troops, after Alexander had departed from India. Eudemus later killed Porus and usurped his kingdom.
a) Eudemus was camped in Taxila with Ambhi and not Porus with whom the famous "understanding" had been reached.
and b) Eudemes had to kill Porus
Means Porus was hostile and not singing to Greek tunes.
c) Eudemes to kill him treacherously - means he was incapable of facing Porus in open battle.
So I really don't know which influence we're talking about here.
Anyway, how did you conclude that Eudemes usurped Porus's Kingdom? Because this citation further says nothing more than the following:
"Eudamus had been left by Alexander as a Macedonian "resident" with Taxiles (Arrian, Anabasis, 6.27.2). We know nothing further of the attack on Porus."

That is speculation. Moreover, we are not claiming that Alexander achieved a total victory over the various kingdoms and chiefdoms of the Indus region. There were quite likely still considerable pockets of resistance.
I haven't preconceived any notion. I am only brainstorming, ready to be convinced otherwise.
Speculation goes like this :
It is possible that there were indeed Macedonian troops left within Porus' kingdom. If not a physical military presence, the Macedonians certainly had some degree of influence over Porus and his realm.
Except Ambhi and Nysa at extreme periphery I see no people or Kingdom completely subdued by Alexander. Sure he overran many tribal areas like the Kathaians
It doesn't look like a complete defeat of the Greek campaign either. Otherwise Alexander won't be able to leave Garrisons and Eudemes won't be able to stage another dash into Punjab. But the Garrisons were soon completely overcome.
On a larger scale, it looks like a stalemate in which the Greeks were later beaten back.

By the way this is what Strabo says of Greek historians :
They coined the fables concerning men with ears large enough to sleep in, men without any mouths, without noses, with only one eye, with spider-legs, and with fingers bent backward. They renewed Homer's fable concerning the battles of the Cranes and Pygmies, and asserted the latter to be three spans high. They told of ants digging for gold, of Pans with wedge-shaped heads, of serpents swallowing down oxen and stags, horns and all; meantime, as Eratosthenes has observed, reciprocally accusing each other of falsehood."
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c) Eudemes to kill him treacherously - means he was incapable of facing Porus in open battle.
The phrase "treacherously" can be interpreted to mean that Porus was back-stabbed by Eudemus. That is, there was some agreement concluded between Porus and the Macedonians, which Eudemus violated by having Porus assassinated.

So I really don't know which influence we're talking about here.
The very fact that Porus was assassinated by the Greeks shows their influence over his realm. It implies that the Greeks had spies and/or allies within Porus' kingdom and were capable of removing him from power (which they did).

Anyway, how did you conclude that Eudemes usurped Porus's Kingdom? Because this citation further says nothing more than the following:
"Eudamus had been left by Alexander as a Macedonian "resident" with Taxiles (Arrian, Anabasis, 6.27.2). We know nothing further of the attack on Porus."
We can conclude that Eudemus usurped Porus' kingdom because the source I posted clearly states that Eudemus acquired 120 elephants by killing Porus; that is, he seized control of the military resources previously possessed by Porus. Since the army is the primary instrument of political sovereignty, if Eudemus usurped Porus' military resources, it is not too far-fetched to assume that he usurped control of Porus' territories as well. In pre-modern states, and even in many modern ones, the one who controls the army controls the state.

I haven't preconceived any notion. I am only brainstorming, ready to be convinced otherwise.
Speculation goes like this :
I included the phrase "it is possible" for a reason. I am not claiming these things as fact.

It doesn't look like a complete defeat of the Greek campaign either. Otherwise Alexander won't be able to leave Garrisons and Eudemes won't be able to stage another dash into Punjab. But the Garrisons were soon completely overcome.
On a larger scale, it looks like a stalemate in which the Greeks were later beaten back.
That is what I posted to begin with...

By the way this is what Strabo says of Greek historians
Strabo himself was a Greek historian, who among other things also wrote on India.

He criticizes deliberate exaggerations and myths (such as that of gold-digging ants), which modern historians criticize as well.
 
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Some historians claim that there was heavy rainfall during the battle of Jhelum that brought
victory to Alexander?? Alexander claimed he created the rainfalls with the help of Zeus; whom
he felt he was descended from.

Hydaspes (Jhelum)

Zeus: the thunderbolt. In other words, the conquering hero claimed that he had created the rainfalls that had so greatly helped the Macedonian victory.
 

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Many a times in a battle, you may have a stalemate like it happened in this war but Greeks were mauled so badly that their moral was down in their boots. They never returned to India after that. Infact no european after that took Northern route to India.
The Greco-Bactrian king Demetrius invaded India through the northern route after the Maurya Empire was overthrown in c.185 B.C.E.
 

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Some historians claim that there was heavy rainfall during the battle of Jhelum that brought
victory to Alexander?? Alexander claimed he created the rainfalls with the help of Zeus; whom
he felt he was descended from.

Hydaspes (Jhelum)

Zeus: the thunderbolt. In other words, the conquering hero claimed that he had created the rainfalls that had so greatly helped the Macedonian victory.
The Greeks knew they were most likely to be defeated in a battle with Porus. They camped, and waited, while their scouts went about on recce missions, before the Battle of Hydaspes. It was only when it rained, that they started the attack. This is as per one source (B.K. Chaturvedi).
 
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Alexander the Great and West Nile Virus Encephalitis

Alexander the Great and West Nile Virus Encephalitis

Alexander the Great died in Babylon in 323 BC. His death at age 32 followed a 2-week febrile illness. Speculated causes of death have included poisoning, assassination, and a number of infectious diseases. One incident, mentioned by Plutarch but not considered by previous investigators, may shed light on the cause of Alexander's death. The incident, which occurred as he entered Babylon, involved a flock of ravens exhibiting unusual behavior and subsequently dying at his feet. The inexplicable behavior of ravens is reminiscent of avian illness and death weeks before the first human cases of West Nile virus infection were identified in the United States. We posit that Alexander may have died of West Nile encephalitis.

Keywords: Alexander the Great, retrodiagnosis, West Nile virus, Babylon
Alexander the Great died in the ancient Mesopotamian city of Babylon, on June 10, of 323 BC (Figure). His death after a 2-week febrile illness (Table) has fascinated ancient scholars and contemporary medical investigators (1), who have posited various diagnoses based on sparse clinical information—a few recorded signs and symptoms. Retrodiagnoses have included poisoning and infectious as well as noninfectious diseases (1–6). After reviewing ancient accounts and modern theories, we have concluded that Alexander may have died of West Nile encephalitis.


Medical history and physical examination of Alexander the Great
Patient characteristics Medical history Clinical symptoms
Male
Born in Macedonia
32 years of age
Soldier
Heavy drinking
Frequent bathing
Married to many wives
One son Ten years before death, traveled widely (Mediterranean, North Africa, and Middle East)
Unexplained fever 5 years previously
Penetrating right chest wound one year before final illness
Onset of final illness May 29, 323 BC
Death June 10, 323 BC Escalating fever associated with chills
Excessive thirst, diaphoresis
Acute abdominal pain
Single episode of back pain at of onset of fever
Increased weakness leading to prostration with intermittent periods of energy
Delirium
Aphonia
Terminal flaccid paralysis

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