1971 Indo-Pak War: US involvement

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    It's a good thing that you have understood the effects of communism. Communists are the worst. Now understand the other side, which you are part of. The then president of the USSR in 1971 got so mad at the blatant support of the US to the genocide of millions that he was angry at US for years. That's US for you. If US is hated for it's support of it's atrocities by the worst commies, what category should i keep the US in??


    A few questions to think for you. How many countries does US intervene in ? How many years of it's history is free from war? How many people died as a result of it's actions?


    Just a small insight: History of U.S. Military Interventions since 1890

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    You were obviously worried about the damage to your CBG's reputation. Of course you would have dropped a hell of a lotta firepower. But there is no way you would have gotten back alive. Your CBG would have found a nice grave in the Bay of Bengal. So you ran away. You can sugar coat it any which way you want. But the truth is that after sending a CBG to BoB, neither Nixon nor Kissinger had the steel to see it through.

    American allies did not learn their lesson that day, they still have not. America will execute its duties as an ally if and only if it is convinced that it wont suffer the humiliation of defeat. Today Israel is reaping the fruits of being an American ally. Philippines and Japan are too.

    A country like Iran is bullying you and Obama looks like a deer in headlights. What hope do the Philippines have against China? Japan can still save herself by going nuclear and fast.
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    The 'Blood Telegram' sent by Archer Kent Blood to the US state department , The last American Consul General to Dhaka, East Pakistan

    The Telegram was signed by 29 Americans

    page1 462px Blood telegramdjvu


    the Text ::



    In an earlier telegram dated March 27, 1971, Blood wrote about American observations at Dhaka under the subject heading "Selective genocide":
    From : Archer Blood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I expect thats the reason the USA backed off, not fear of USSR and certainly not any fear of India.


    Here is what was going on in the US at that time according to history..
    1971
    Events of 1971, from Wikipedia
    Payoff to the Vice President
    The Attica, New York, Prison Revolt
    Plan of Attica Prison
    The Attica Prison Insurrection 1971
    Governor Nelson Rockefeller and he Attica Prison Riot, September 9-13, 1971 The Attica Prison Insurrection
    Attica Revisited. Bibliography
    13 June The Pentagon Papers
    The Pentagon Papers
    The New York Times v. United States, (1971) ["The Pentagon Papers" decision]
    The Trial of Charles Manson
    1972
    Events of 1972, from Wikipedia
    Records of Secret Nixon-Zhou en-Lai Talks held in February
    June 22 Hurricane Agnes Hits Pennsylvania
    1972 Olympics
    1972 Olympics
    Olympic Hostages Killed in Gun Battle
    Who murdered the athletes of the Israeli 1972 Olympic Team in Munich?
    Mark Spitz Wins Seven Olympic Medals
    USA Basketball Team Loses to Soviet Team
    M*A*S*H* Premieres September 1, 1972
    The Election of 1972
    Your little war was not even worth mentioning in the scheme of things.

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    I have highlighted a few of these petty incidents that you quote here to belittle the complete and total mauling of a MAJOR American ally, even today the Americans have worked hard to downplay the Indo_pak wars to avoid losing face and looking like they failed their vassals.

    Also there a small matter of India detonating its first nuclear device in '73. The event not being totally unrelated to the American intervention in Indian affairs just 2 years prior.
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    93,000 POWS, their country divided in two like Germany at the end of WW2. Puny?? Our Air Force could not handle Pakistan?? The IAF had complete Air_Superiority in both East and West Paki?? Thats how the war was won in 15 days.

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    Sir,

    Would somebody post the 'Anderson Papers' , which brought out the duplicity of Nixon/Kissinger to the American people during the 1971 Indo-Pak war. The New York Times or the washington Post carried it.

    I believe the New York Times presses were on strike, hence only typed or cyclo version of the newspaper was published. Hence I am unable to find these on the web.

    All the foregoing info in this thread is great. Adding Anderson Papers will further enhance it.

    Cheers.

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    Ok US didn't fear India but a single attack on USSR submarine battle group or vice versa could have turned into a full scale war or even into a world war, that time Soviet Union was not dissolved, and certainly a top notch super power, it's ignorance and over-confidence to say that US never feared of USSR.

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    You mean the De-classified documents? They're everywhere on the net.

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    Any thing could have turned into a full scale war back then,,,,but the 1971 conflict between India and Pakistan hardly made the news in the USA......
    Time Magazine pretty well covers what was going on from US thinking.

    India Pakistan 1971 War as covered by Time

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    That's exactly the tragedy! Millions were being butchered by a US backed regime. India and the commie SU were trying to prevent that from happening. The genocide wasn't worth much for the US then in the scheme of things. Yet, they did everything to prevent the hands that tried stopping it.

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    You didn't mention how the war became a little thing that got managed in 15 days?
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    We INDIANS defeated the sabre jets by using Gnats of world war 2. Now here is an american guy coming and telling that pakistan defeated INDIA in AIR. What a joke. The 1971 war was won by the help of the INDIAN AIRFORCE. I think the american guy must check out the information about the 1971 war.
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    That is a real tragedy - it is disappointing that the US turned away from one of the worst genocides in the 20th century. Additionally, this war resulted in the largest military surrender post WW-2, 90000 POWs. This record remained unbroken till the 1991 Gulf war.
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    Yep! Our 'Operation Freedom' took 14 days to complete. How much did yours take to complete, 'average american'?
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