If Raja Raja Chola helped the Rajputs defeat Mahmud of Ghazni

Would Raja Raja Chola have defeated Ghazni ?


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Peter

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Yes I do believe Rajaraja would have stopped Ghazni.Sadly there was no unifying force present in India(like the pope`s call for a Crusade) that would have unified all our Hindu brethrens under a single banner against the evil Ghazni. Otherwise Indian kings could have easily roflstomped Ghazni and his plunderers.
 

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There is no such thing as muslim Rajputs.
Islam is monolithic, there are no castes and varnas, while Rajput (apabhramsa of 'Rajaputra') is a Hindu caste identity.
The moment you leave your ancient fold and join a monolithic religion like Islam, the caste born identity ceases to exist.
You're no longer a Rajput. You can either be a Rajput or a Muslim, not both at the same time.

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There was a Muslim who wanted to revert back to Hinduism and hold his jadeja title.
So he asked the kshatriya mahasabha about this.
He was denied and insulted.
They called him son of a coward who converted to Islam to save his life.
Now he is a Islamic extremist :troll:
 

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There was a Muslim who wanted to revert back to Hinduism and hold his jadeja title.
So he asked the kshatriya mahasabha about this.
He was denied and insulted.
They called him son of a coward who converted to Islam to save his life.
Now he is a Islamic extremist :troll:
I don't know the details of this story and will consider this hearsay for now.
But assuming that this happened, they can put pre-conditions to ensure that such a come around is not just to flaunt a fancy title.
But insulting someone is definitely not a fruitful way. I would consider such an action reflective of over defensiveness that leads to self goal. Jumping on hindsight and putting the present ransom to the past are very defeatist things to do.

Moreover one is not a Kshatriya by birth, but by deeds. In the post Gupta times when castes/varnas and the systems using them turned fully hereditary and rigid; Rajaputra term came to replace 'Kshatriya' in north India. That is all there is to it.
While Rajputs might still have their own rules in identifying peers & Jadeja is a Rajput title; yet nothing should stop that person from calling himself a kshatriya if his deeds credit him so. Now it depends on what he really was looking for?

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Virendra
 

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I still find it weird that Hindu rulers preferred to fight against each other, instead of allying against their common enemy: Muslim invaders.
That is not the forte of Indian rulers exclusively, Infighting was the norm all around in medieval age.
Even at the places from where invaders like Ghazni and Ghori came - every opportunity of sabbotage, revolt & fratricide was utilized.
Many times the campaigns in India were abandoned half way because of an SOS back home.
 

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fight actually could have happened would post more details if time permits ...

u know who won it,actually many of the south india powers are underated,ghazini was just a hit and run case he could not consolidate in india as he did in afghan, pakistan, iran uzbekistan.infact he even hit the places which didnt have stable empire to defend..

cholas/choras(ktka)/chodas(andhras/orissa/north india), chuiya (south east asia, china) was a pan indian power , eastern ganga dynasty (orissa), sena(bengal ), jaichand's gahadavalas(feudataries in uttarpradesh )

cholas didnt just win bengal, they won kosala desam and infact captured patna the capital of palas the greatest power of north india then.
 

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expedition to ganges was for territorial reasons part of dig vijaya not just a punitive raid....

we have titles janagai cholan, vadamadurai and kadram kondan for rajendra cholas, successors, rajadhi raja, rajendra chola - 2 , veera rajendra chola.........

greatest of cholas might be vira rajendra chola


cholas did help bhojaa( rajasthan king) greatest of north west indian kingdom) to recover from their loss to chalukyas,he helped him to capture haryana, panchala aka punjab in india& pakistan, adhinagar 9aka srinagar) kingdom , they even led expeditions to peshawar .

invaders tried to enter india from 650 ad but broke out only in 1200 ad to capture delhi.their occupation were mostly thwarted by south indian kingdoms.chalukyas stopped arab invasion in sind , balochistan , pulekesi of sivagamiyin sabatham(tamil novel) gave protection to parsis aka persians, chinese embassy in those days were in contact with pallavas to prevent any arabian advance.

tamil might be aware of this story ,vikramaditya chalukya who took kanchipuram to take revenge for badami loss to narashima pallavan 100 years earlier defeated arab caliphate around 750 ad, this was the time when caiphate was said to be greatest power in the world , they had spain their possession then .

his north indian counterparts gujara prathiharas went further they sent expeditions to afganisthan defeated arab representative and setup a hindu kingdom in its place . invaders broke through by 1200, but south india was practically independent throught with foreighn rule only for about 50 years.Arab caliphate dropped plans of indian invasion
 

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