PAK DA - Russian Fifth Generation Steath Bomber

I am not living in a cocoon. I see a global role or India but no I don't see any role for a strategic bomber 40 years from now. Technology will advance. Who knows we will have space based assets. Hell we are moving to unmanned fighters. Drones are here already. Why would someone risk a pilot in a $2 billion (possibly more) bomber when it can be done so cheaper , more effectively and without risk to human lives?

One question,

If we use Pak-Fa-T-50 as a stealth bomber, how effective it would be ? Will it need design modifications for this purpose ?

Really? Two billion bomber?

And again, you are not smarter than defence planners in the US and Russia who feel the need for these systems

@ A chauhan, like any fighter bomber, the limitations will be range and payload.

A pure bomber has far greater payload capacity. But yes, india prefers fighter bombers and that's how we have worked so far.

US capped B2, there are many in Russian security establishment who don't see any use for a new stealth bomber.

So basically you are not in tune with the real world yet choose to argue incessantly

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I am aware of the program. We will see what comes of it.

Apparently two posts ago you weren't aware of it and used it as a point of argument. Now you want to see what comes of it. Ok, I learnt my lesson about debating with you. Thanks.

Lets discuss it in a technical point of view,

Where will we use a Strategic Bomber?

How can you answer that question when we dont know what the future holds? The idea is to be prepared. And being one of the big three in due course requires that level of depth in military assets.

The debate is still on whether they want manned unmanned, bomber or long range strike aircraft.

Let me also talk about both Russia and the US which operates a bomber fleet today.

The US has based all over the world. It allows them to stopover, rearm refuel etc. Soviet Union's large expanse of from Europe to Pacific and its satellite states allowed it to be able to launch bombers against US or Europe its enemies.

India has no bases across the globe. India is not even working to have bases partly because it does not have the capabilities right now and part no will or even use to have so. Even if we consider a 2025 operational Russian Bomber, how exactly will India use it? The Russian bomber is said to have a range of 9000 kms. If at all we had to bomb a target in Europe and come back, how would we achieve it without having bases in Europe or west Asia?

because without the current application the ambition for a heavy bomber its illogical, first of all we will need an engine to start with. And before the ambition of Big Three we need to master a lots of technology, we even dont have a homemade ARM and PGM to start with and I hope you are not going to bomb enemy nations mango people atleast.

Thats why the debate started with - Why are we not co-developing the PAK - DA with the Russians? Of course they have to offer it, for us to get involved.

I've started a new thread on stealth bombers under development by others.

PLanned Next Generation Stealth Bombers

I dont think any nation will prefer selling strategic bomber or will be allowed to sell. We will have to go on our own.

START treaties are for the reduction of strategic arms between Russia and US, selling such a bomber by anyone of them even if possible will be opposed by the other nation.