PAK DA - Russian Fifth Generation Steath Bomber

PAFDA Concept

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New Russian strategic bomber expected in 15-20 years

Russia Today | Published: 23 December, 2009, 11:20

A new strategic bomber for Russia’s long-range aviation is scheduled to be ready for deployment by 2025-2030, the military branch’s head said.

The bomber will use stealth technology extensively to reach the minimal radar cross-section for an aircraft of its class, told journalists Major General Anatoly Zhikharev.

The vehicle, developed by the Tupolev design bureau, will have both nuclear and precision weapons capabilities, and systems for air defense suppression. It will also be able to use a wide range of airfields for take-off and landing, including those with unpaved runways.

The new aircraft is intended as a replacement for strategic bomber models currently in service in the Russian Air Forces, like the Tu-160, Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3.

Maksim Pyadushkin, editor in chief of aviation magazine Russia and CIS Observer, says that, since the current Russian military bombers are very old, there is an obvious need for new weaponry.

“We don’t know much about this future bomber at the moment, because, as far as I understand, the development is in its initial stage," Pyadushkin told RT. "It looks like Russian militaries are just defining their requirements for the new aircraft. So, we don’t know how it will look like. It will certainly be supersonic, will certainly have stealth technology and will carry high-precision weapons.”

Source: New Russian strategic bomber expected in 15-20 years — RT

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This confirms that Sukhoi has bagged PAKDA bomber program with Tupolev's backing.

Takeoff weight of 125 tonnes for a heavy bomber is too low IMO.

It should be more than 200 tonnes.

125 tons take-off weight is a necessary constraint to maintain w/t ratio of 0.5 along with cruising speed of ~2000Km/hr at sustainable range of 14 thousand Kms imo.

125 tons is consistent with previous Soviet bombers including the Backfire. I think the idea is to have speed as well unlike the B2 which can carry more ordnance but sacrifices speed.

Check Tu-160 please. Max takeoff weight 275 tonnes and speed 2000+ km/hr.

Tu-160's take-off weight is ~275 tons.

However the fuel consumption shoots to 1.8kg/km in supersonic flight.

With 117S engine, su35 is able to achieve ingestion of 1.25kg/km.

The aerodynamic shape & advanced aerodynamic will allow PAFDA to cut down this consumption close to 1kg/km. Hence with fuel capacity 50 tons, it'll be able to attain similar efficiency without increasing unnecessary weight.

Comparing only takeoff weight of Blackjack with PAKDA is not fair imo as long as payload is not compromised.

T-160 fuel capacity is 130 tonnes, the armaments Tu carries is 275 - (110(Empty weight) +130(fuel)) which is approximately 35 tonnes.
Lets assume pakda needs 50 tonnes lesser fuel than Tu to achieve its efficiency, fuel capacity would be 80 tonnes and i bet its empty eight wont be lesser than 45 tonnes . will it carry any weapons at all ?

I know its just a rough calculation but 125 tonnes is just too low.

@PG

You are looking at it all wrong. Tu-160's empty weight is 110 tons. Whereas PAKDA made from advanced composite materials will have empty weight of 50 tons. Its fuel capacity will be 50 tons not 80.

Payload will account to maximum 24tons. These weapons will be freshly developed or will be reduced in weight from existing nascent programs be it X-555 or Kh-101.

Take off weight of this bomber is fine. It is in a similar class as the B-52 or B-1 when it comes to it.

Other specs matter, namely engine power, range and payload. The rest don't really matter.

Batter buy it as a buyer only .

No need to join as a partner in this project .

If it does not suits our requirnments , we are free to say , " No Thanks " .

it not proven machine ,lets russians built it and test it then we should consider,in my opinion pak da will be more suitable .

Medvedev confirms fifth-generation bomber

Russia will move ahead with the development of a fifth-generation strategic bomber, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said over the weekend.

Medvedev, while visiting aviation manufacturing facilities Kazan, Russia, Saturday confirmed the government's plan of developing the new bomber as well as a fifth-generation fighter, RIA Novosti reported.

The need for building a new generation of strategic bomber has been hotly debated within the Kremlin's top echelons and in the country's defense industry since plans for it were announced in 2009, with some believing modern air defense and missile defense systems could make it redundant.

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin - whose portfolio includes the Russian defense industry -- questioned the need to develop it last week but Medvedev gave the plans a boost Saturday, asserting it wasn't enough to maintain and revamp the existing strategic bombers.

"Alongside a fifth-generation fighter there are also plans to develop an advanced long-range aviation complex. I am talking about a new strategic bomber," Medvedev said.

Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov added Saturday the prime minister has ordered the construction of an aircraft manufacturing plant in Kazan that could in the future be used for the production of a new generation strategic bombers.

In the meantime, it will be employed to build Antonov An-70 propfan tactical transport aircraft, Serdyukov said.

A new Russian strategic bomber is expected to replace the Tu-95MC Bear, Tu-160 Blackjack and the Tu-22M3 Backfire long-range bombers currently in service with Russia's strategic aviation.

Earlier reports had indicated production of a new strategic bomber using radar-evading stealth technology wouldn't begin until 2025.

The clash between the Kremlin and the military over the new bombers was thrust into the spotlight last week Rogozin called its usefulness into question.

"Look at the current level of air defense and anti-missile defense -- these aircraft will not get anywhere. Not ours, not theirs," Rogozin told the Izvestia daily Wednesday.

But Chief of the Russian General Staff Gen. Nikolai Makarov countered that the new bomber project was under way as planned.

"We have made some progress in the development of the new bomber," he said. "If we reach production phase, this plane will outperform any modern aircraft of the same class, including those built by the Americans."

Russian Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin said last year that Russia wasn't going to ramp up plans for new long-range bomber until at least 2015, instead modernizing Tu-95MC and Tu-160 bombers until 2025 or 2030.

A commentary by RIA Novosti military analyst Ilya Kramnik carried Sunday by Voice of Russia contended the country "risks having no long range bombers at all by 2040-2050" if it stops working on developing a new aircraft now, due to the long gestation time of such massive bombers.

In the meantime, he said, if new technology emerges "that will enable it to do without a traditional heavy bomber, the work on its development can be suspended but only after a new viable alternative is found."

Why Why Why are we not a part of this????