Employers discriminate against Muslims in EU and US

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So playing on the numbers... apply in 100,000's and yet 10,000's can get visa.

Go there in the name of "study" and do Jihadi Studies and live in a typical Islamic ghetto and off course find a British chick.Also whenever get a chance do riots, spit on British soldiers or even behead. :lol:
 

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but we are allowing illegal immigration in crores from bangladesh
Of course we discriminate, they are terrorists. :rolleyes:

the real scenario is much tough on the ground level....... US/UK/Australia/ Canada are struggling hard with the 'cultural clashes' between Muslims-Christians, including black-white, Asian-Western, language differences etc, with the indigenous people too in this ongoing match among them, as discussed in this thread :ranger:
 

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=> British Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'
June 17, 2011

The Muslim population in Britain has grown by more than 500,000 to 2.4 million in just four years, according to official research collated for The Times.

The population multiplied 10 times faster than the rest of society, the research by the Office for National Statistics reveals. In the same period the number of Christians in the country fell by more than 2 million.

Experts said that the increase was attributable to immigration, a higher birthrate and conversions to Islam during the period of 2004-2008, when the data was gathered. They said that it also suggested a growing willingness among believers to describe themselves as Muslims because the western reaction to war and terrorism had strengthened their sense of identity.

Muslim leaders have welcomed the growing population of their communities as academics highlighted the implications for British society, integration and government resources.

David Coleman, Professor of Demography at Oxford University, said: "The implications are very substantial. Some of the Muslim population, by no means all of them, are the least socially and economically integrated of any in the United Kingdom ... and the one most associated with political dissatisfaction. You can't assume that just because the numbers are increasing that all will increase, but it will be one of several reasonable suppositions that might arise."

Professor Coleman said that Muslims would naturally reap collective benefits from the increase in population. "In the growth of any population ... [its] voice is regarded as being stronger in terms of formulating policy, not least because we live in a democracy where most people in most religious groups and most racial groups have votes. That necessarily means their opinions have to be taken and attention to be paid to them."

There are more than 42.6 million Christians in Britain, according to the Office for National Statistics, whose figures were obtained through the quarterly Labour Force Survey of around 53,000 homes. But while the biggest Christian population is among over-70s bracket, for Muslims it is the under-4s.

Ceri Peach, Professor of Social Geography at Manchester University, said that the rapid growth of the Muslim population posed challenges for society. "The groups with the strongest belief in the family and cohesion are those such as the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. They have got extremely strong family values but it goes together with the sort of honour society and other kinds of attributes which people object to," he said. "So you are dealing with a pretty complex situation."

Professor Peach said that the high number of Muslims under the age of 4 — 301,000 as of September last year — would benefit Britain's future labour market through taxes that would subsequently contribute to sustaining the country's ageing population. He added, though, that it would also put pressure on housing and create a growing demand for schools. "I think housing has traditionally been a difficulty because the country is simultaneously short of labour and short of housing. So if you get people to fill vacancies in your labour force you also need to find places for them to live," he said.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, general secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, predicted that the number of mosques in Britain would multiply from the present 1,600 in line with the rising Islamic population. He said the greater platform that Muslims would command in the future should not be perceived as a threat to the rest of society.

"We each have our own set of beliefs. This should really be a source of celebration rather than fear as long as we all clearly understand that we must abide by the laws of this country regardless of the faith we belong to," he said.

The Cohesion Minister, Sadiq Khan, told The Times: "We in central Government and local authorities need to continue our work to ensure that our communities are as integrated and cohesive as possible."

Growing numbers

The total number of Muslims in Great Britain:

2004: 1,870,000

2005: 2,017,000

2006: 2,142,000

2007: 2,327,000

2008: 2,422,000 :ranger:

Source: Labour Force Survey

British Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'

Please post stats of 2013. :ranger:

hmmm, now Britain is formally known as "North Pakistan", but it may take at least a decade+ to come these prediction a reality :uk: :pakistan:


Map showing the percentage of British people of Pakistani descent by region, and locations of Pakistani communities with more than 20,000 people in the UK.

British Pakistanis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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hmmm, now Britain is formally known as "North Pakistan", but it may take at least a decade+ to come these prediction a reality :uk: :pakistan:
That's a good one... soon British would learn the lesson of their life when they have to agree to part with British land in the form of North Pakistan. :lol:

We would see new country(s) emerging from past colonist and the British becoming enslaved.
 

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That's a good one... soon British would learn the lesson of their life when they have to agree to part with British land in the form of North Pakistan. :lol:

We would see new country(s) emerging from past colonist and the British becoming enslaved.

i already find them in this state to an extent..... we find, sooner or later, the original British will have lost their control from Britain :wave:
 

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Of course we discriminate, they are terrorists. :rolleyes:
That's a good one... soon British would learn the lesson of their life when they have to agree to part with British land in the form of North Pakistan. :lol:

We would see new country(s) emerging from past colonist and the British becoming enslaved.

The Islamic future of Britain


Britain is in denial. If population trends continue, by the year 2050, Britain will be a majority Muslim nation


Britain is in denial. There is no real public debate on a historic event that is transforming the country. Mention of it occasionally surfaces in the media, but the mainstream political class never openly discuss it.

What is that historic event? By the year 2050, in a mere 37 years, Britain will be a majority Muslim nation.

This projection is based on reasonably good data. Between 2004 and 2008, the Muslim population of the UK grew at an annual rate of 6.7 percent, making Muslims 4 percent of the population in 2008. Extrapolating from those figures would mean that the Muslim population in 2020 would be 8 percent, 15 percent in 2030, 28 percent in 2040 and finally, in 2050, the Muslim population of the UK would exceed 50 percent of the total population. :pakistan::uk:

Contrast those Muslim birth rates with the non-replacement birth rates of native Europeans, the so called deathbed demography of Europe.:ranger: For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children (total fertility rate). For some time now, all European countries, including Britain, have been well below that rate. The exception is Muslim Albania. For native Europeans, it seems, the consumer culture has replaced having children as life's main goal.

These startling demographic facts have been available for some time (see 'Muslim Population "Rising 10 Times Faster than Rest of Society"', The Times, 30 January 2009. Also the work of the Oxford demographer David Coleman). But on this historic transformation of the country there is silence from the political establishment.

Not everyone agrees with these demographic figures. Population projection, some say, is not an exact science. Perhaps the Muslim birth rate will drop to European levels.

But this seems to be wishful thinking. For years it was believed that Muslims would enter what is known as "demographic transition", with European Muslim birth rates falling to native European levels. But that demographic transition has not happened. In Britain, for example, the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities continue to have significantly higher birth rates than the national average, even after more than 50 years in the country. :pakistan::bd::uk:

Over the short term (a few generations) demographic forecasting is as scientific as any social science can be. Britain and the rest of Europe are in native population decline and European Muslim birth rates are up. If that trend continues, then the projection of a majority Muslim population in Britain is sound. Even the highly respected economist and historian Niall Ferguson accepts the figures.

Many British people find it hard to believe their country could become majority Muslim. After all, it was never what they wanted so why, in a democracy, should it be happening? But we've had such disbelief before. Back in the 60s and 70s, many people scoffed at the notion that London could ever be majority non-white. But today it is.

The fact is that the deathbed demography of native Britons has come up against increasing Muslim birth rates and the result is a classic Malthusian geometric increase in the Muslim population. As Malthus emphasised, populations increase geometrically, not arithmetically. Given two populations, one declining one increasing, within a few generations the geometric increase of one over the other can be substantial.

Why has the Muslim birth rate not fallen to native levels? Just as there may be consumerist-cultural reasons for the low birth rates of native Britons, there may be strong cultural reasons for higher Muslim birth rates. As the journalist Christopher Caldwell puts it: "Muslim culture is full of messages laying out the practical advantages of procreation. As the hadith saying has it: 'Marry, for I will outnumber peoples by you.'"

Yassir Arafat understood the political power of high birth rates. The Palestinian population increased sevenfold in one generation from 450,000 in 1967 to 3.3 million in 2002. The wombs of Palestinian women, Arafat said, were the "secret weapon" in his cause. The Israeli government is very much aware of Palestinian demographics.

Population projections over the long term can be wrong. But for Britain, over the short term, whatever way you do the numbers, they all point in one direction: Britain will be a majority Muslim state by the year 2050.

The political and social consequences of all this will be significant. Britain's traditional foreign policy, particularly regarding the US and Israel, would very likely change. In fact the US and Israel are already anticipating the consequences of a majority Muslim Western Europe.

Britain's social landscape would also be changed. The Adhan, the Muslim call to prayer, would very likely be heard throughout most of Britain. The traditional iconic sights and sounds of the country would also change from church bell-towers to minarets.

Very likely all of this would happen gradually but there can be little doubt that it will happen, and it would be perfectly democratic.

Given that such a historic change is taking place, the silence of the political class is curious, to say the least. Britain, until the 1950s, could trace its ethnic and cultural ancestry back thousands of years. In 1903, in Cheddar Gorge Somerset, the remains of a pre-historic man were found. Known as Cheddar Man, DNA tests on this almost 9000 years old skeleton showed that he has living descendents today, still in Somerset.

In fact, genetic studies show that the populations of the British Isles (and Western Europe) have been stable for millennia, giving the lie to the oft quoted liberal comment that "Britain has always been a country of immigrants." That's false. Until the mass immigration of the 1950s, Britain was ethnically homogeneous. (See Bryan Sykes's Blood of the Isles.)

The long stretch of Britain's exclusively European identity is now coming to an end, yet the political class refuse publicly to discuss such a culturally transforming event. Why the silence from the politicians? Are they not proud of their achievement?

The answer is that the demographic projections of a majority Muslim Britain show the British political class to have been catastrophically wrong on multiculturalism and immigration, and they are genuinely afraid to admit it. The British political establishment cannot give the full truth about immigration.

The former Conservative MP George Walden, considering the fears of his fellow MPs in discussing particularly Muslim immigration, wrote:

"I'd be so alarmed by the situation I'd do everything possible to suggest it was under control. It's up to politicians to play mood music in a crisis, and up to the people to understand that there's little else governments can do. The last thing they can say is that we face a threat to which we can see no end because it's based on a clash of cultures. On the IRA we told the truth; on the Islamic problem, we lie." (Walden, Time to Emigrate? p.120)

Back in the 60s and 70s, the British political establishment united in condemning Enoch Powell, not just as a racist but as being factually incorrect in his demographic predictions. Since then, the subject of immigration has split British politics between the truth-denying, but morally superior, political mainstream and the truth-telling legacy of the bogeyman Enoch Powell.

For good or bad, the history of the last 40 years has vindicated Powell on many issues and shown the political establishment to have been wrong. Some major figures on the liberal-left now acknowledge this fact.

David Goodhart, the founder of Prospect magazine, in his new book The British Dream, argues convincingly that he and others on the liberal-left got it wrong on immigration.

But they also got it wrong on democracy. The projection of a Muslim majority by the year 2050, coupled with the fact that the vast majority of the British people have consistently opposed large-scale immigration, post-war British politics must represent the greatest ever failure in democracy. If ever the "Iron Law of Oligarchy" were proved right, then it is post-war British politics that has done it.

The Islamic future of Britain - The Commentator
 
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Queen of Britain would be breeded by the following type and Prince Charles would convert as well out of no option...



 
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How are Americans discriminating against Muslims when the president of USA has
A Muslim name barrack Husain Obama and his father is Muslim?

His name is also close to USA 's 2 biggest enemies:
Saddam Husain and Osama only one letter difference.
 

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Queen of Britain would be breeded by the following type and Prince Charles would convert as well out of no option...
How are Americans discriminating against Muslims when the president of USA has
A Muslim name barrack Husain Obama and his father is Muslim?

His name is also close to USA 's 2 biggest enemies:
Saddam Husain and Osama only one letter difference.
WE cant expect all the countries and all the places are as secular as India is. And we would dumb to go there and claim that they are discriminating. They are clear in what they want, they don't want any people who look ODD and opposite to their culture. And this phenomenon is not limited to any particular nation or country. Every Nation with its unique culture doesnt always take other culture with open hands. They feel it is migrants who have to adjust, not them and there is nothing wrong in that.

its really hard to find a country like India, a non-religious country even if Hindus accounts for 80% population, which share equal rights and equal opportunities with all the communities, regardless any religion/ race/ language etc, with providing more opportunities to the weak part of the society like women/ dalits etc in different competitive exams. India may proudly say that it had many minority Presidents/ PMs/ CMs/ Governors/ Chief Justice/ Bollywood superstar/ General etc as its the country the most deserving people go high, regardless their religious/ racial/ language etc background :india:
you did get a country like India, which is hard to find anywhere else :truestory:
 
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India is far from being the model secular country, women also
Are still second class citiZens in many parts of India
 

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India is far from being the model secular country, women also
Are still second class citiZens in many parts of India

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here, could you please come to this thread as below, and read it to discuss, "how exactly women are put down to men? which law makes them down to men in Indian society, while we have my reservations for women/ dalits, including scholarships in different competitive exams????" :ranger:

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/religion-culture/49931-empowering-women-india.html
 

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can we have an option, "not invited", for the selected members in my threads? i work hard to bring news in my threads but few shiit statements mess it up :toilet:

here, could you please come to this thread as below, and read it to discuss, "how exactly women are put down to men? which law makes them down to men in Indian society, while we have my reservations for women/ dalits, including scholarships in different competitive exams????" :ranger:

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/religion-culture/49931-empowering-women-india.html
trolllol lethal force is a moderator himself :lol:

on topic-muslims themselves are responsible for this.
they should not allow extremism of any kind.
 

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Some articles say that Muslim extremism could be down by 2035.. and other form of organized terrorism will be take place.. Instead of religion extremism
 

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