India Cancels Talks with Pakistan

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Pakistani envoy meets Kashmiri separatists, India calls off bilateral talks

NEW DELHi: India on Monday called off the foreign secretary-level bilateral talks with Pakistan which was slated to be held on August 25. This development follows the Pakistani high commissioner to India Abdul basit meeting separatist leaders from Kashmir.

Earlier on Monday, the Pakistani envoy met Kashmiri separatists on Monday ahead of the proposed foreign secretary-level talks between New Delhi and Islamabad.

This invoked sharp reaction from political quarters in India with the opposition Congress hitting out at the Centre for allowing the envoy to meet the Hurriyat leaders.

The Congress had accused the government of doublespeak questioning why the talks had not been called off.

'Bilateral talks cannot resolve Kashmir issue'

Earlier, prominent separatist leader Shabir Ahmad Shah on Monday welcomed the upcoming India-Pakistan foreign-secretary level talks, but maintained that bilateral dialogue between the two countries would not resolve the Kashmir issue as people of the state were principal party to the dispute.

"We welcome the talks between India and Pakistan but bilateral talks cannot resolve Kashmir issue as we have seen that such initiatives always ended in failure over the past six decades," Shah said.

Shah said the Kashmir issue cannot be resolved without the inclusion of "true leadership" of Jammu & Kashmir in the resolution process "as we are the basic party". He said there was nothing wrong in Pakistani high commissioner meeting the separatist leaders. "India and Pakistan are parties to Kashmir dispute but we are the basic party. What is wrong if one party meets the other party?" he said.

Basit has also invited other separatist leaders including Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Mohammad Yasin Malik for consultations in Delhi on Tuesday.


Pakistani envoy meets Kashmiri separatists, India calls off bilateral talks - The Times of India

 

[ladder]

We need to take it further, give marching orders to Pak ambassador.

 

[anupamsurey]

so looks like Paki terrorists already met their counterparts on Indian site, and planned to carry out their terrorist activities in India. we must stop these things from happening in future.

 

[Yusuf]

My piece
http://sarvatravijay.wordpress.com/2014/08/18/indo-pak-called-off-pak-exposed/

Indo-Pak called off | Pak exposed
The Indo- Pak Foreign Secretary level talks scheduled for the 25th of August have been called off. This follows days of ceasefire violations (one wonders if there is any) an attack on the BSF that led to the martyrdom of two Jawans and finally the Pakistani High Commissioner to India made an outrageous call to the separatists in Kashmir to come for talks in Delhi.

The decisions to talk to Pakistan by the new government led by the BJP was perplexing given that they had opposed similar talks by the UPA government and nothing had changed on the ground to warrant the talks after the change of guard. Even the invite to Nawaz Sharief & talks held in Delhi was a surprise although it was not an invite to just Pakistan but to entire SAARC region but that too had preceded a terror attack in Herat in Afghanistan on Indian consulate. Still PM Modi didn't call off his invite to Pak PM

So the pattern of aggression from Pakistan is the same and has been over the years. Provocation before any high level talks.

While PM Modi's move to talk was surprising, in the end it has ended up giving a sort of diplomatic brownie points. Not that India cares for the world on the issue of Kashmir or Indo-Pak relations, India's position in the eyes of the world in spite of having a so called "hardline nationalist" PM will be enhanced and the Modi's stock is bound to rise as a statesman.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, questions will once again be raised on who controls Pakistan's foreign policy especially its relations with India. Its no surprise to me that Pakistan has reacted the way it has. It only strengthens by belief that its only the Pak Army that calls all the shots and does not want peace with India. I have stated earlier that on Indo-Pak relations and on Kashmir, Pak Army & the civilian governments over the years have been in sync with the civilian government helping provide a charade and also some legitimacy.

After this latest provocation once again the question is on whose behalf did the Pakistani High Commission invite the separatist leaders to talk with him that too on Indian soil in India's capital? Did Nawaz Sharief Government sanction it? If yes, then it exposes the perfidy of the civilian government. If it wasn't the Nawaz Sharief government who sanctioned it, then was the Pak HC was acting on orders of the Pakistani Army?

Either ways it is clear once again that Pakistan is not interested in any serious talks with India. Any reconciliation with India or peace with India means making up with "Hindus" which strikes at the very heart of the basis for Pakistan's being, the Two Nation Theory.

Going forward, in my opinion, India should stop all interactions with Pakistan. No back channel talks, nothing. India has been sitting pretty with territorial status quo while its Pakistan which is desperate to get Indian Kashmir with its leaders calling it the "Jugular vein" of Pakistan. India has nothing to gain from talking with Pakistan. India should concentrate on internal security and guard its borders well while we continue to grow economically and militarily while Pakistan continues to grapple with its internal problems which in large measure is a result of the policy of using terrorism as an instrument of state policy against India.

 

[arnabmit]

The term "Fcuk Off" has been reformed for the Indian Sub-Continent to "Pak Off"

Issued in public interest

 

[ladder]

Well our NY/ Washington envoy should sponsor one day brain storming seminar on future of Balochistan or legitimacy of Durand line. And you know who all should be invited.


The Pak govt. resentment can just ''Pak Off"

 

[rock127]

No Cricket and no talks for 1 month.

 

[bose]

Good decision by GOI... let Pakistan have endless meetings with spineless Hurriats...

 

[ladder]

KC Singh and M Raza, pointed out to talk to Shia leaders of G&B of so called Northern Areas.


The UPA govt. for the last 10 years has undermined the India's stand point.

 

[Singh]

@Yusuf : without the tacit approval/knowledge of Centre separatists wouldn't have met the Pakistani officials.

 

[arnabmit]

Level of IQ: Ashutosh

@Yusuf : without the tacit approval/knowledge of Centre separatists wouldn't have met the Pakistani officials.

 

[LastProphet]

KC Singh and M Raza, pointed out to talk to Shia leaders of G&B of so called Northern Areas.


The UPA govt. for the last 10 years has undermined the India's stand point.

Good point. Made by KC....!!!

 

[Bheeshma]

And Baloch nationalists.

 

[Singh]

Level of IQ: Ashutosh

Please explain, sir.

 

[Yusuf]

@Yusuf : without the tacit approval/knowledge of Centre separatists wouldn't have met the Pakistani officials.

I don't think so as that will open up Modi for criticism. There was no ground to stop them from going to Pak HC apart from putting travel restrictions which would have led to another set of issues.

 

[Apollyon]

Please explain, sir.

Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh phoned Mr Basit to warn that he had a choice - "talk to separatists or talk to us," recounted Syed Akbaruddin, the spokesperson for the Foreign Ministry today.

Before Calling Off Pakistan Talks, a Warning Issued Over the Phone

Hurriyat separatists are Indian citizens. India is a democracy and GoI can not stop any Indian citizen to meet anyone they want.

 

[Singh]

I don't think so as that will open up Modi for criticism. There was no ground to stop them from going to Pak HC apart from putting travel restrictions which would have led to another set of issues.

Such a step isn't really possible from what I understand. This was not a phone call or a clandestine meeting.

Remember Sharif's entire energies are focussed on resolving Islamabad fiasco, and he perhaps wanted to scuttle the talks. Both sides decided on this little game, to scuttle the talks. Pakistan signalling to the Pakistanis that no compromise on Kashmir, Indian that Kashmiri separatists are not a party to this talk.

PS: Don't forget Sharif came to Modi's swearing in, and Modi wished Pakistan on its independence day, means there is a thaw.

 

[Singh]

Hurriyat separatists are Indian citizens. India is a democracy and GoI can not stop any Indian citizen to meet anyone they want.

1. Then please explain to me how come without any income an Indian citizen can own properties worth dozens of crores, and there is no raid ?
2. An Indian citizen is often jailed on request, and then provided security and all his whereabouts are heavily monitored ?
3. An Indian citizen is allowed to hold talks with a foreign government and known terrorists involved in a proxy war ?

 

[Iamanidiot]

What is going on in Pakistan?

 

[Blackwater]

Y there is hue and cry ?? As if these talks bear fruit lolllllll