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Re: Japan proposes joint work on Australia sub fleet: report
Geography= No (Land of rising Sun, one of the Eastern most nations)
Ethnics = No (98% Yamato ethnic group, rest mostly Chinese and Koreans)
Language= No (100% Nihongo; Script= kanji with added kana.)
Culture= No
Religion= No (around 1% xtian)
Japan aligns with the usa (because of regional security threats and also well, because it has the largest collection of US troops outside the US-- so doesn't really have a choice), but that doesn't mean it is Western.
If still in doubt try asking a Japanese whether he thinks japan is western
It is just arrogance or ignorance on your part to proclaim that Japan is Western.
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On topic.
Japan has a well developed shipbuilding industry. And it needs to further strengthen its naval capabilities including naval shipbuilding.
It is an eventuality that Japan will have to have a strong Navy. Japan doesn't have any resources (other than human). So a strong Navy is critical for Japan. And lets face it, the USA is not going to be around forever, to protect Japan from the obvious threat in the neighbourhood and to give Japan leverage in international relations and negotiations.
Would seem we are going Japanese i.e. we've signed some contract with them. Japan is Western.
From what I understand the options are;
A) Buy, fully, Japanese made subs which should be the cheapest (in regards to cash spent) option for the government.
B) Entirely make a new "Super Collins" class of subs in Australian shipyards. More expensive than option A but all the cash for the project stays in Australia.
C) Jointly manufacture a totally new class of subs partly in Japan, partly in Oz.
Australian submarine manufacturing is a bit of a controversial subject. From what I understand, the RAN was very happy with the Collins class and wasn't too upset with the time it took to manufacture them and get them operational. But, the project took forever and we had quite a few (4-5???) different govts. as the construction and development of the class was conducted. Each new govt attacked the previous govt for the "failures" of the Collins's and the press lapped it up. As I've said a few different times on this board, there is going to be a submarine based story, every few months, in the Australian press for the next decade+
Sorry for the quick OT, but Japan is WesternI'm impressed if Australia at least jointly manufactures the subs. It could inspire canada to pursue the same path especially after the brits sold us subpar subs in the 90s that killed Canadian sailors. :-(
I agree Japan is western geopoliticaly and heavily western in pop culture but only a few decades ago Japanese were tiny yellow men with giant teeth ready to overrun anglo Asia you might disagree or not but not really arguing the point just my perception. My real point is kudos to Australia, Us here in canada can learn from you guys. After allowing the avro arrow be undermined we should be as smart as our Australian Friends.
Geography= No (Land of rising Sun, one of the Eastern most nations)
Ethnics = No (98% Yamato ethnic group, rest mostly Chinese and Koreans)
Language= No (100% Nihongo; Script= kanji with added kana.)
Culture= No
Religion= No (around 1% xtian)
Japan aligns with the usa (because of regional security threats and also well, because it has the largest collection of US troops outside the US-- so doesn't really have a choice), but that doesn't mean it is Western.
If still in doubt try asking a Japanese whether he thinks japan is western
It is just arrogance or ignorance on your part to proclaim that Japan is Western.
---------
On topic.
Japan has a well developed shipbuilding industry. And it needs to further strengthen its naval capabilities including naval shipbuilding.
It is an eventuality that Japan will have to have a strong Navy. Japan doesn't have any resources (other than human). So a strong Navy is critical for Japan. And lets face it, the USA is not going to be around forever, to protect Japan from the obvious threat in the neighbourhood and to give Japan leverage in international relations and negotiations.