Future indian navy by 2020

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My suggestion would be:

4 - Aircraft Carrier Battle group.
1 on backup &
3 - on regular Patroling (East, West and South Coast)

8 - Nuclear SSN's
8 - Nuclear SSBN
6 - Diesel Electric Engine

180 - Strong Surface fleet including

* Stealth Frigate - 20
* Destroyers - 25
* Corvettes - 35
* Amphibious Warships - 6
* LPD's - 4
* Tankers
* Missile boats
* Unmanned Attack/Survillance Crafts

Provide your views by on going acquisitions...

Nice suggestions but I wonder how will we have 4 AC battle groups by 2020. Diesel submarines will definitely be more than 6 .

we are getting 3 AC by 2020 and if god willing viraat will still remain in service by then so 4 AC.....

by that time we will have ABM defence ships, with on board LRTR.

We know that Britain has reduced its defence budget. Both France and Britain are looking forward to share 1 Queen class AC by BAE systems. This is out of 2 which is actually planned.

What if India gets one of it !!!! :happy_7:

Diesel subs will be around 25-25
ACs will be 4 and one near retirement so 3 ACs in best condition.
nuclear subs will be around 4-5 home made and 4-5 on lease(from Russia)
and i guess we have to speed up and also increase our frigate and destroyer deployments.
and awacs shall be around 5+ considering west and east coast threats..

i guess cameroon has decided to put money in both ACs :angry_6:

Britain don't have budget to complete both AC and is more than willing to sell us . problem with us is that we cannot afford 4-5 billion dollars for that AC. Also we have plan to build our own AC . If we keep on buying AC,s when will we learn to build one. Its better for us to concentrate on our own AC program.

Good suggestion.

I would suggest some modifications though. We must have:

• Amphibious Warships - 10
• LPDs - 8

These will be required for a prospective naval assault on the coastline of Pakistan, or for any mission ti ensure the safety of ethnic Indians in Fiji and East Africa.

I agree.. But it will take sometime for IAC-2 to get on drawing board... :emot0:

We need 4 carriers so that 1 can be in dry dock while 3 are operational i.e 3 carrier task force plus rather huge fleet of submarines at least 30-40+ but, i doubt that can be achieved by 2020

I heard IAC2 will be nuclear carrier

Things are not confirmed yet about IAC2.. Ppl are expecting IAC2 to be nuclear but there are more technical glitch in creating 100MW High pressure reactor for the planned SSBN's. So i dont think IAC2 will be nuclear powered.

1 for sure is there will not be steam catapult for arrestors..

what do you mean by 25-25....??

there isnt any agreement of that sort with russia....till now..

A Blueprint fora future Indian Navy

Navies are meant to project power, protect sea lanes and defend the country fair distances away from the coastline. They can serve to blockade enemies in their offensive role and platforms to land forces. India has no territorial ambitions and is currently interested in being a regional power with no present intentions beyond the Bay of Bengal, Indian Ocean and the sea lanes from the Straits of Hormuz to the Straits of Malacca, through which traverse its own energy supplies and those of its potential allies and opponents.

The first step in defense planning is to determine the most likely nations which may wage a war against our nation. In India�s case these are Pakistan, China and Bangladesh in descending order. Of these Pakistan and Bangladesh have adjacent maritime boundaries. Bangladesh Navy is mainly a coast guard with few ocean going frigates and no submarines. Thus our aging carrier Viraat and a few frigates with a small reconnaissance and anti-ship warfare capable air-arm and two submarines would suffice to blockade and have complete domination over the waters of the Bay of Bengal. Air and naval bases at Vishakhapatnam and Andaman islands could be expanded and modernized to fulfill that role. A war with Bangladesh is a remote possibility, but it is best to be prepared for a coming world, where oil and water are likely to be the reason for future wars.

A much more likely scenario is war with Pakistan. Its newer Agosta submarines and P3C Orion anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare capabilities require the Gorshkov-Vikramaditya and a large force of submarines, ASW frigates, destroyers and an air-arm with the equivalence of P3C Orion or Nimrod planes. Our aircraft carrier, a billion plus dollar equipment needs a support group of ASW ships, ship based helicopters, missile frigates, destroyers and submarines. This is one of the main reasons that bigger powers like Russia and China have not fielded aircraft carriers. These assets are very difficult to protect against hunter-killer and attack submarines and cruise missiles. Thus the use of an aircraft carrier to project power is only feasible against Pakistan and foolhardy or impossible against China, Russia, France, Germany, UK or the US. Except for China, the rest are unlikely opponents and even China is unlikely to go to war with us again. Nevertheless, all possibilities must be considered and the way to deal with superior or stronger powers is to retain the capability of severe punishing retaliatory damage to inhibit misadventures by pre-emptive aggressors.

The next factor to be considered is the cost benefit ratio. Aircraft carriers even like the Gorshkov and its aircraft and the support vessels to protect it, would cost two billion dollars for one carrier group. Thus two aircraft carriers should suffice. They would be unusable against any major power and are likely to lose their effectiveness even against Pakistan with time, as it acquires more sophisticated submarines, planes and missiles. On the other hand missile and ASW frigates or destroyers and ASW and air to ship missile carrying aircraft and newer quiet diesel submarines can be built or purchased for 25 to 100 million dollars per piece. India�s 7500 kilometer shoreline permits two or three naval air-arm bases with one or two squadrons of reconnaissance, rescue and attack aircraft at three coastal areas from Gujarat coast to Kerala coast, and two from Kanyakumari to Kolkata because of the bases at Andamans and Vishakhapatnam.

Thus the top priority is a buildup of blue water ships, quiet submarines and a substantial and independent air-arm for the Indian Navy. The big bucks spending should be for a nuclear powered submarine with sea-based ballistic nuclear missiles of long ranges to serve as retaliatory deterrent. Twenty-four modern submarines, Thirty blue water navy frigates and destroyers armed with missiles, helicopters and ABMs, about 100 land based naval aircraft for reconnaissance, rescue, Anti-Submarine Warfare and equipped to attack ships and submarines, and two nuclear powered submarines with nuclear missiles would ensure India�s safety. It needs considerable time to build up navies, so foresight, planning and adequate funding are essential for India�s security. Unlikely though the scenario may be, in the event of a war with China, there must be sufficient naval power and assets to blockade the Straits of Malacca, the bottleneck of oil transit to China.

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How our navy grows by 2020 depends entirely on the strategic appetite of our political leadership, and how they envision India's role in the future.

The Indian Navy, historically, has been the most efficient of the branches when it comes to procuring new equipment and building self-reliance, so my hopes are high.

Personally, I would love to see at least 4 AC battle groups (1 in drydock, 3 in patrol) for defense of India's nearby seas and local power projection, but also 1 or 2 nuclear carriers for long-distance power projection anywhere in the Indian Ocean Region. That way, the next time Indians are beat up in Australia, we can scare the Ozzies by deploying a battle group off the coast of Sydney

And of course, we also need nuclear SSBNs to give our "no first use" policy some credibility, as well as SSNs and surface ships for controlling and patrolling key chokepoints like Hormuz Straits, Malacca Straits, and Aden Straits in case of war.