Siachen Glacier : The Highest battleground on Earth

na nothing would happen back in past Rajvi gandhi and benizoor bhoou to tried to some kind of deal in siachen glacier but media at both side played havoc so we can expect same in future

also rss would force bjp to take oppositie view in case no peace deal isn`t favourable to india

worth full read, gives a nice explanation of how pakis work
The Siachen tangle | The Asian Age

Issues of National, Ecological and Human Security in the Siachen Glacier Region | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses

Ecology is an important factor, but Pakistan occupying the heights if India vacates cannot be ruled out.

If Pakistan occupies the heights or even get China to occupy the same, India will never be able to regain those heights because of acclimatisation period and the immense difficulty to capture these heights when held.

Pakistan having lost its Base due to the avalanche, their posts would have lost the land route and would now have to rely on air supply, which they just cannot afford.

Likewise, Pakistan requires its forces to go West, now that soon the US will vacate Afghanistan and it will be essential to give the same thrust that was done earlier to occupy Afghanistan under guise of the people being Talibans. Pakistan has a history of using military men in civil clothes claiming to be tribal fighters and such utter tripe. In this context, it will be recalled that a massive airlift was undertaken to remove Pakistani troops and ISI agents from Konduz in Afghanistan, just before the US captured the area in Nov 2001!

Therefore, Pakistan has everything to gain by demilitarising the Siachen.

That Pakistan is no respect for any boundary or border duly signed by them has been well established by the brazen Kargil intrusion to the Indian side of the LC. What is the guarantee that once Pakistan has established its writ in Afghanistan once the US leaves, they will not return to occupy the heights on Siachen vacated by India? And if they do, who will force them to leave?

It is in the interest of Pakistan and China that there is a land mass continuity between the Shaksgam Valley (ceded to China by Pakistan) to Aksai Chin. It maybe worth recall that China is already entrenching itself in POK!

He will not be able to help Uncle Man in this endeavour because the Army will give him a run for his money.

The Army has lost enough lives because of national interest and it cannot be taken for a ride and then asked to recapture once the Pakistanis renegade.

Though one has to give to the political and bureaucratic nexus by the way they are drumming up this peace at all costs campaign through their handmaidens in the media and so called eminent personalities.

Can junior officers over turn orders from IA chief? May be possible in terrorist armies, but I don't think IA has this culture. I think if chief is in consensus with political establishment, then it will be very difficult to stop it.

Siachen death count spirals

CHANDIGARH: The highest battlefield in the world, Siachen glacier, hides a warming truth, recently discovered. Geologists have discovered hot water from geothermal sources in the glacier which is nearly 15 degrees warm in plunging -40 degree Celsius weather. The hot source has come as a relief in the freezing conditions as it can now be used for growing vegetables, setting up green houses on the glacier besides cutting down heavy reliance on expensive fossil fuels.

The Indian army had outsourced the project of first discovering ground water in Siachen sector as soldiers were being compelled to melt ice from the frozen Siachen river to quench their thirst and for all other purposes. Ritesh Arya, the project director, known for establishing a record in the Guinness Book of World Records, for discovering water sources at highest altitude in Ladakh, told TOI from Leh,"We had drilled holes a decade ago for the army, in coordination with 4 Engineers Corps, to discover underground water sources in Siachen. Last year, we were assigned a task to explore and develop geothermal source in Siachen Base Camp by Indian Army. We explored the site for geothermal development by drilling borewell but it was a tough task especially as it was assigned on' no water, no money' basis."

It took several months before the source of geothermal site was discovered, in October, last year." We wanted to test the source in winters. We finally visited the site on 18 April, 2012 with engineers from 17 Eng Corps and the discovery of geothermal source at base camp was established,"said Dr Arya.

A PU alumnus, Dr Arya, said that the borewells for groundwater in Siachen has been giving 24 hours water even in winters when temperatures drop to minus 40 degrees. "Though the temperatures of the source are not very high but still the water can be put to good use for developing green houses for growing vegetables, bathing, washing etc. So far the army is relying only on fossil fuels for heating water which is a very expensive proposition at the altitude of 19000 feet," he said.

Raising concern about the shrinking of Siachen glacier the geologist said, "The glacier has receded sharply and we are investigating how much. The glacier should be demilitarized, as the Pakistan army is mooting, and instead it should be developed as a geothermal tourist destination for which it has vast unexplored potential."



Hot water discovered in Siachen - The Economic Times

Hahaha, one good reason why we should stay put and actually entrench further in that region.

Hot water discovered in Siachen


CHANDIGARH: The highest battlefield in the world, Siachen glacier, hides a warming truth, recently discovered. Geologists have discovered hot water from geothermal sources in the glacier which is nearly 15 degrees warm in plunging -40 degree Celsius weather. The hot source has come as a relief in the freezing conditions as it can now be used for growing vegetables, setting up green houses on the glacier besides cutting down heavy reliance on expensive fossil fuels.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...w/12953907.cms

http://www.ipcs.org/pdf_file/issue/I...res-Hakeem.pdf

PS...:: the article is from a complete a** read it....but please dont boil your blood its a paki perspective...!!!

Is their an organization in India whose members are veterans of service on Siachen?

Not that I know of.

I agree with what Yusuf has been saying. Increase troop numbers in the region. Pakis will have to kiss our arse every time they decide to try something extravagant.

Let the Paki f***ers die. Or else we must just destroy whatever we can with some air strikes. These people can never be trusted ever.

Was watching Times Now, it was showing news of kiyani whining about India hardening the stand on Siachin. Any update on this issue?

Added alter: Got the link

http://zeenews.india.com/news/south-...ni_773163.html