The troops of India and Mongolia engaged in joint exercises, with the latest two-week drill in counter-insurgency ending in Belgaum on Sunday.
Nearly 30 officers and personnel of the Mongolian armed forces participated in the workout called “Nomadic Elephant” along with 50 officers and personnel of the Indian Army in counter-terrorism environment.
The current engagement tapered and ended around the time the Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao was in India and Pakistan.
Defence cooperation and relations between the militaries of the two countries has seen a steady growth over the last decade with the first joint exercise in 2004. For the last few years, the joint drills are being held every year.
In recent years, the exercises varied with the one in 2005 being held at the Counter Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School at Vairnagte, Mizoram while another exercise held in Mongolia in September 2008 was on peacekeeping operations.
Besides exercises, both countries have had visits of top brass with the former Vice-Chief of the Army Staff Lt. Gen. Noble Thamburaj visiting Mongolia last year on the Mongolian armed forces day while its Chief of the Army Staff visited the Defence Expo here.
Mongolian Defence Minister L. Bold was one of the dignitaries at the 2009 Aero India and also took part in the Joint Working Group meeting.
Its high time that India should start re considering base in Mongolia which they scrapped on the name of peace with Chinese. Its high time to return the favor to Chines. If they can do well we also can do the same.
China is not interested to have any friendly ties with Mongolia,They tried to invade Mongolia but was failed due to the joint resistance from the Mongolian and Russian Red army,China used to consider Mongolia as part of its territory for its wealthy mineral resource.
Its usual for China to annex territories which it feels like 'it would feed their large population',China failed to bring Mongolia by force so it started with investing in mining industry and getting what they exactly wanted. Sucking ones natural resource and leave them starving for income.Old and same Chinese policy.
Last edited by Pintu; 13-01-11 at 07:42 PM.
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That's the whole idea BG. The idea is to free China's client states from their hold and wean them off your influence to such and extent that even if they don't become our client states, they at least remain rationally neutral which is fine by our standards. We seek friendship of a nation rather than its subservience to us. Not only Mongolia but Cambodia and Laos who also are often called your "client states" are also on the list. Cambodia shares our ancient culture and faith since thousands of years and once was a part of our empire. So cultivating ties with them and weaning them off your pressures becomes the challenge.
You challenged us in our neighbourhood and it is natural that we compete in yours. Its an even game. Even if Mongolia, Cambodia and Laos are your client states till now they won't be so forever. And before USA, Europe and other countries make a dash for these small but potential markets, it is only wise that we do so. Trading with everyone in surplus doesn't make you invincible but equally dependent on them because your production is export oriented and if the clients' need perspective changes someday to which the supplier isn't able to adapt, it makes the latter most vulnerable.
How long do you think it would take us to make the same inroads that you've made? You see, after trying to understand the concept of trade and partnership of your governments' thinking in Africa and seeing the result, most countries must we aware and apprehensive about this sort of state-backed forceful ransacking. You might have bigger money but we choose a private sector approach to not just trade but gain the public's positive recognition of our efforts.
I understand that you see Central Asia as your domain; but nothing like a good competition eh? You are good in manufacturing and we are good in servicing. Too bad that we have to be on opposite ends of the fence; Had CCP's ideals been not so imposing and expansionist towards us, we could have made the finest tag team in the world and also the longest unbreakable record of partnership.
A base doesn't exactly translate to the kind of heavy and full military bases that USA has; we are not in a financial position yet until our economy doubles from our current position. And we shouldn't even bother considering full military bases since it is the most stupid expenditure we can have right now. What "bases" means in Indian sense is to have "listening posts" with limited military equipment that can act as a watch tower to Indian military intelligence rather than a base from where we can launch strikes. The farkhor base in Tajikistan is also not a full blown military base except it being so from Russia's side. It is a listening post or at the max a special forces operational base which isn't equivalent to be capable of conducting full-blown strikes during war time. The base was maintained first there to keep an eye on terrorist activities that come from POK into India and potentially to deploy commandos in case a Kandahar hijack like case happened for fast helo deployment.
Mongolian base should be similar to that. It would be stupid to base IAF fighters there in Mongolia since there is absolutely no use of doing that. Firstly because with the kind of pathetic government we have now, even if we had a $ 20 trillion economy and 10,000 5th generation fighters, we won't be even fighting a country the size of Maldives, forget China. Hence we should look for the practical solution: listening posts. Chinese don't have military bases abroad even though they are 3 times more wealthier than us today. There's a reason. Having US like bases is silly and unreasonable at this stage and for a lot more years. It is a needless military expenditure that is incurred to become a police around the world, which we don't want to be. We just want to ensure that South Asia from Afghanistan to as far as Singapore and Indonesia is in our positive influence along with entire IOR.
Okay, so how will "listening posts" in Mongolia benefit Indian geopolitical or defence objectives?
We have listening posts in the Maldives and Madagascar because the Indian Navy wants to expand its influence in the IOR by establishing a limited presence on pro-India nations in the area. But how will such a presence in Mongolia of all places help us?
Again, we mind as well get "listening posts" in Vietnam instead, since that would actually be relevant to our defence (IN can track the movement of PLAN vessels en route from South China Sea to Indian Ocean/Malacca Straits).
Even Russians did not shared good relations with the chinese until recently. we can also cash upon it and also you use russian influence in mongolia to achieve our objectives. when china is making her string of pearls why the ----- are we riding the bogey of peace.