Su-30 MKI

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    They only exported $500 million of helicopters and $500 million of Su-30s... that doesn't sound right.

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    36 Su-30s were imported for 1.69Billion, not 500million. 1.69 over 36 aircraft comes up to $46.6 million per aircraft.

    Helicopter deliveries totaled 1.79Billion in 2011 compared to 500million in 2010.

    So, that's $3.5Billion in exports last year with just MKIs and Helis. It's quite right because Russia sold around $2Billion to India alone.

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    They did the conversion from the zloty so those numbers are in Polish currency.

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    36 Su at $1.69 Billion would be equal to $46.9Million/aircraft.

    36 Su at 1.69 Billion Zloty would be equal to $14.6Million/aircraft.

    Come on man, there is such a thing as common sense.

    The first paragraph specifically mentions $4.8 Billion and not Zloty. The sum for Helicopters is also mentioned in $, not Zloty.

    Russia exported nearly $5Billion in 2011. Again, let's give credit where it is due.

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    It's good to watch a pro-French Frenchman and a Pro-Russian Indian duking it out ...

    keep at it guys ..

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    all we are missing is a pro-American Indian to join the melee and pedal some F35. so drops in ace.

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    Are you kidding me? Me peddling the F-35 instead of the Su-30 MKI? All I have ever wanted the F-35 was for Strategic Forces (for which it has been developed) and the Indian Navy (again, so designed).
    But you, Mr Indian who works for the richest Americans and hates USA, must pick a side too - or just sticking your nose in for a quick skirmish?

    Man I seem to have picked fights with so many people -
    Tshering, Trackwhack, P2Prada, Armand, DrSomnath just to mention a few ....


    Maybe the Mods should ban me or something!
    Last edited by ace009; 21-02-12 at 12:58 AM.

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    Guys i have a doubt, If during the Garud exercises, the French came on top with rafales and Mirages and we dint, despite the non use of Spectra EW suit, how is that Su 30 Mki better than Rafale... just curious....!!!! some one please provide an answer...

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    Dude, relax he is mentioning Jay Atl not you....

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    It isn't... the Katrina is superior in every way.

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    dont give a fan boy answer... India is gonna Use the MKI as the Air superiority fighter and Rafa as the A2G fighter.... You know that too!!!! So honest answer please

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    Read it again. He mentioned my name in there.
    Kidding aside, Su-30 MKIs suite the mission profiles for IAF, longer patrols, working as a mini AWACS, huge weapons loadout etc. Rafales are better with q
    uick reactions, lower RCS etc, so they will be used for SEAD and strikes.

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    oops....Sry

    But you dint answer my question...!!!!!

    I asked how come Rafas came on top in the A2A excercise in Garud with France against Mkis when we all claim Mki is the superior one vis a vis Rafa in A2A mode...

    PS: i know Rafa is for Strike and SEAD and MKI for Air dominance... thats what pzzles me if in Garud exercise , French with Rafas and Mirages Came on top against ,IAF's SU 30 MKIs and Mirage 2000 ?????

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    T/W at 50% fuel:
    Su-30MKI = 1.07
    Rafale = 1.20

    Radar peak pwr:
    N011M = 4-5 kW
    RBE2 AA = 13-14 kW

    Targets tracked/engaged
    N011M = 15/4
    RBE2 AA = 40/8

    Low Probability of Intercept:
    N011M = NO
    RBE2 AA = YES

    Hardpoints/Payload:
    Su-30MKI = 12/8000kg
    Rafale = 14/9500kg

    Radar Cross Section:
    Su-30MKI = 25m^2
    Rafale = 0.3m^2

    Integrated Solid State Defence Suite:
    Su-30MKI = NO
    Rafale = YES

    Common data link:
    Su-30MKI = NO
    Rafale = YES

    IRST:
    Su-30MKI = 2nd gen
    Rafale = 3rd gen

    360 turn rate:
    Su-30MKI = 23s
    Rafale = 18s

    Angle of Attack:
    Su-30MKI = 80°
    Rafale = 40°

    Combat Radius:
    Su-30MKI = 1500km
    Rafale = 1825km

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