India and Vietnam to sign defence pact

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NEW DELHI: With a little over a month after President Pranab Mukherjee's Vietnam visit when a defence MoU was signed the two countries are expected to conclude another defence pact when Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung is in India on October 27-28 amid China's growing aggression in the region.
This proposed pact, coming after last month's MoU that entails 100 mn USD Line of Credit to Hanoi to purchase patrol boats to boost coastal security, is aimed at providing military hardwar ..

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I think that's great news. Vietnamese are good people who have suffered so much in the past because of war on their nation. They are brave and loyal people. India is doing right thing to be friends with Vietnam and having this defense pact.
 

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Ah, this news brings tears of joy in my eyes. Where are the commie haters now?

Your memory is affected by your irrational anti-American obsession and pro-Russian sentiment long nurtured by socialist(communist) Congress political philosophy.
Any comments, Sir, now that India, under the Modi government is signing a defence pact with a Communist Nation?

And here comes the demolition drive against gross generalization (please turn your sarcasm filter on if you are overtly sensitive):

19 months before Russians invaded Finland, the Finns had assured Russians that they were committed to policy of neutrality.

If you ask me, it was their mistake, never trust communists. And they did that mistake and lost their land. See this map....
Never trust the Vietnamese. They are Communists. Period. Narendra Modi must have lost his mind.

It is lie and propaganda of Communist minded people.
Yes, the Vietnamese are Communist minded people. India should simply avoid them.

And "communist land grab" is fact otherwise you won't find this very thread here on DFI.
Russians gave independence to few country at that time, but after it, they gone for war twice with Finland. Why?

"Communist land grab" mentality, nothing less.

The only thing is few people are not sleeping but they pretend they are sleeping. There are no ways one can wake them up.
Yes, Communists are liars. The Vietnamese are lying when they talk about the threat from PRC. Someone please wake up Mr. Modi for agreeing to this defence pact with a Communist nation.

Now, the sarcasm filter may be turned off.

Lesson to Learn:
If you make inane comments, including, but not limited to, gross generalization, expect to be countered.
 

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India, Vietnam to identify newer areas of cooperation


New Delhi: India and Vietnam will aim to upgrade bilateral economic and strategic ties, identifying newer areas of cooperation for businesses and discussing the sale of military hardware including the India-Russia co-developed cruise missile Brahmos during a visit by Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung to India next week. Dung's visit starting 27 October will be the third high-level interaction between India and Vietnam in three months. Foreign minister Sushma Swaraj visited Hanoi in August to pave the way for a visit to Vietnam by President Pranab Mukherjee in September. "Vietnam is a key partner in our Look East policy, and a trusted friend," said Anil Wadhwa, secretary (east) in the ministry of external affairs, at a discussion on India-Vietnamese relations in New Delhi on Monday.

He was referring to the determined diplomatic outreach begun by India in the early 1990s to forge closer economic and trade ties between India and Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) that comprises Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore. Analysts see the rise of an assertive China as one of the reasons for countries in South-East Asia increasingly looking to India. "There are many countries in the region that are worried about China's assertiveness," said D. Muni, a former professor of South Asian Studies at the New Delhi-based Jawaharlal Nehru University. "They want others like India to cushion them" because they cannot stand up to China on their own, he said.

China disputes sovereignty over the waters with Vietnam and has in the past objected to India's presence in the South China Sea which it claims as part of its territorial waters. With India, China has an unresolved border dispute dating back to the 1962 border conflict. On India-Vietnam relations, Muni said the strategic partnership was built on the pillars of Asian solidarity, nationalism, the fight against colonialism and any kind of hegemony in Asia. "Both India and Vietnam want multipolar Asia" and not one dominated by the US together with China or separately, he said. According to Wadhwa, "Economic cooperation and engagement is the background of all cooperation...we greatly also value our economic interests in Vietnam." Bilateral trade at present amounted to $8 billion with both sides aiming to increase it to $15 billion by 2020. Five key items exported to India were mobile phones and components, machinery, computers and electronic hardware, natural rubber, chemicals and coffee, according to information posted on the ministry of external affairs website. The five top items imported from India were animal feed, corn, steel, pharmaceuticals and machinery.

To promote connectivity and boost business linkages, India's Jet Airways (India) Ltd will be starting direct flights connecting Delhi and Mumbai to Ho Chi Minh City on 5 November, Wadhwa said. Vietnam Airways will begin its operations to India under a code share agreement with Jet Airways early next year, he said. Bank of India will also be opening a branch in Ho Chi Minh City shortly, he added. Indian companies with a presence in Vietnam include ONGC Videsh Ltd, Essar Exploration and Production Ltd, Nagarjuna Ltd, KCP Industries Ltd, Venkateswara Hatcheries, Philips Carbon and McLeod Russell. NIIT, Aptech and Tata Infotech have opened more than 80 franchised centres across Vietnam. Last year, India's Tata Power Co. Ltd won an estimated $1.8 billion contract to develop two 660 megawatts coal-fired thermal power plants in south Vietnam against competition from South Korean and Russian companies. Wadhwa said that Dung would be accompanied on his India visit by a 50-member business delegation that would look at deepening commercial links in areas like the textile sector.

In the area of strategic ties, India, which extended a $100 million credit line to Vietnam during Indian President Mukherjee's visit last month, will be looking to sell Brahmos supersonic cruise missiles—co-developed with Russia—to Vietnam. P.K. Chakravorty, adviser to BrahMos Aerospace, the India-Russia joint venture company that manufactures the missile, speaking at the same event, said that Russia had recently given its go ahead to India to sell the missile to Vietnam. Vietnam was on the lookout for surveillance equipment besides modernizing its armed forces—two areas that India could help, Chakravorty said. India had developed its own unmanned aerial vehicles, upgraded T-72 fleet of tanks and had indigenously manufactured artillery guns, he said adding that India could look at selling this to Vietnam that would in turn boost its own fledgling domestic defence manufacturing.

India has already overhauled Vietnam's MiG fighter aircraft fleet and was looking to train the Vietnamese navy's entire submarine arm, he added. The three high-level interactions in three months is "unprecedented", said a person close to the developments who did not want to be named. "The Vietnamese are exploring avenues to diversify economic opportunities and they see an opportunity in india," the person said. In the textile sector, for example, while Vietnam has a vibrant readymade garments' sector, it has problems sourcing yarn, which it hopes to source from India, the person said. "In the area of tourism, China was a major source of tourist arrivals into Vietnam. But given the tensions, they would like to look at India as a potential source of tourism," the person said.

Tensions between China and Vietnam soared earlier this year after Chinese state energy firm China National Offshore Oil Corp. deployed dozens of ships two weeks ago and towed a $1 billion oil rig 240km off Vietnam's coast in an area both counties claim. More than 3,000 Chinese nationals were evacuated following days of attacks on Chinese workers and Chinese-owned businesses that left at least two people dead according to the Reuters and AFP news agencies.

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Ah, this news brings tears of joy in my eyes. Where are the commie haters now?


Any comments, Sir, now that India, under the Modi government is signing a defence pact with a Communist Nation?

And here comes the demolition drive against gross generalization (please turn your sarcasm filter on if you are overtly sensitive):


Never trust the Vietnamese. They are Communists. Period. Narendra Modi must have lost his mind.


Yes, the Vietnamese are Communist minded people. India should simply avoid them.



Yes, Communists are liars. The Vietnamese are lying when they talk about the threat from PRC. Someone please wake up Mr. Modi for agreeing to this defence pact with a Communist nation.

Now, the sarcasm filter may be turned off.

Lesson to Learn:
If you make inane comments, including, but not limited to, gross generalization, expect to be countered.
:facepalm:

Enemy of enemy is friend. :D

So yes, here Vietnam is good. In fact very good.
 

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This is a very positive step towards stabilising the Asia Pacific Rim.

It is not only in defence that India has taken positive steps, but also for tradeaAs India intensifies it 'Act East Policy' where Vietnam forms a critical pillar of Delhi's engagement with ASEAN region.





China is trying to build a canal through the Isthmus of Kra so that there is an option beyond the Straits of Malacca for strategic reasons since the latter can be choked by inimical nations.

In case China is successful in building the canal through the Isthmus of Kra, Vietnam will play a major role as a sentinel.
 

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Fan Changlong meets with Vietnamese defense minister

(Source: China Military Online) 2014-10-20

  BEIJING, October 20 (ChinaMil) -- Fan Changlong, vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission (CMC) , met with Phung Quang Thanh, deputy secretary of the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of Vietnam (CPV) and Vietnamese defense minister, in Beijing on October 18, 2014.

  Fan Changlong noted that neighboring countries cannot be moved elsewhere. Upholding the friendly co-existence, properly handling the disputes and pursuing common development between China and Vietnam are in their common interests.

  Fan Changlong stressed that the Chinese and Vietnamese militaries shoulder an important duty and historical responsibility of maintaining and developing the bilateral relations. They shall always deliver positive energy, keep good control over the troops, and refrain from saying any word that harms the feeling of the two peoples and doing anything that impacts the bilateral relations.

  In light of the guidelines agreed by leaders of the two countries, the two sides reached principled consensus on developing the military-to-military relations. China is willing to work with Vietnam to earnestly implement the related consensus and results and push forward the bilateral and military-to-military relations, Fan added.

  Phung Quang Thanh said that Vietnam and China share adjoining mountains and rivers, and safeguarding the socialist system and consolidating the traditional friendship between the two countries and their militaries are in the common interests of both sides. Vietnam is willing to strengthen the unity and cooperation with China, properly handle the disputes, and jointly promote the constant consolidation and development of the Vietnam-China comprehensive strategic partnership. He hoped the two militaries will play a positive role in safeguarding bilateral relations, regional peace and stability.

  Sun Jianguo, deputy chief of general staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA), Yin Fanglong, deputy director of the General Political Department (GPD) of the PLA, Xu Fenlin, commander of the PLA Guangzhou Military Area Command (MAC), Du Jingchen, deputy commander of the PLA Navy, and Zhang Jianping, deputy commander of the PLA Air Force, were present at the meeting.
China Military Online English Edition
Chang Wanquan holds talks with Vietnamese counterpart

(Source: China Military Online) 2014-10-20

BEIJING, October 20 (ChinaMil) -- Chang Wanquan, state councilor and defense minister of the People's Republic of China (PRC), held talks with Phung Quang Thanh, deputy secretary of the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of Vietnam (CPV) and Vietnamese defense minister, in Beijing on the morning of October 17, 2014.

  Chang Wanquan noted that as China and Vietnam begin to improve their relations, Phung Quang Thanh leads a large high-ranking military delegation to visit China, this reflects the positive political wish of the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Vietnamese military to push forward improvement and development of the China-Vietnam relations. He hoped the two sides could walk towards each other and promote the healthy and steady development of bilateral relations.

  Phung Quang Thanh said that the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Vietnamese military attach great importance to the relations between the two countries, cherish their traditional friendship, sincerely hope to strengthen cooperation and exchanges with China, and it is to be wished that the two militaries will be the key force to safeguard the Vietnam-China amity.

  The two sides reached a three principled consensus on pushing forward the military-to-military relations between the two countries.

  First, on the guideline of "long-term stability, futuristic outlook, good-neighborliness and comprehensive cooperation" and in the spirit of "good neighbors, good friends, good comrades and good partners", the two sides will gradually resume and advance the healthy and steady development of their military-to-military relations.

  Second, the two militaries will strengthen unity and provide staunch guarantee for consolidating the governing position of the Communist Party and safeguarding the socialist construction cause in both countries.

  Third, the two sides will honor the related major consensus reached by the Party and state leaders of the two countries and play a positive role in properly handling the maritime issues and safeguarding peace and stability.

  Yi Xiaoguang, deputy chief of general staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA), Yin Fanglong, deputy director of the General Political Department of the PLA, Xu Fenlin, commander of the Guangzhou Military Area Command of the PLA, Du Jingchen, deputy commander of the PLA Navy, and Zhang Jianping, deputy commander of the PLA Air Force, were present at the meeting.
http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/news-channels/china-military-news/2014-10/20/content_6187896.htm
The Chinese reactions.

It appears that Modi has clearly learnt the Chinese game of GO.
 
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