Civil war in Ukraine

[Akim]

That is great news! Your country is the bread basket of Europe, and beyond...I hope you can get more investments to modernize your industry also. 20 years ago Europe helped East Germany to prosper, ten years ago Poland. Maybe now it is Ukraine's time.

Kherson combines have YAMZ engines. Russia can at any moment shut off the supply..

 

[jouni]

Kherson combines have YAMZ engines. Russia can at any moment shut off the supply..

Are these built in the same factory as Sampo Rosenlew?

 

[Akim]

Are these built in the same factory as Sampo Rosenlew?

No, it's Ukrainian harvester. It has 1.5 times the header and container.There are a lot of Russian parts. The main buyers were Russia and Ukraine. Here is a great field and harvester loses more harvest than Western harvesters. Ukraine with 47 years produces tractors and combines (maize header). Plant UMZ, which produces rockets with 53 years produces the tractor.

 

[Cadian]

Lugansk 4-th Independent Tank Battalion on comprehensive range practice.

 

[Cadian]

TRUE or FALSE?

Try to guess, is it true or false:

Ukrainian parliament will vote for a new law, that restricts using terms "Russia" and "Rus' " in relation to Russian Federation, because "Russia" is a historical name for a state on current Ukrainian territory, so calling Russian Federation "Russia" consists denial of Ukrainian statehood and encroachment on Ukrainian sovereignty. Now "Moscovia" term should be used referring to Russian Federation.

Spoiler: Check the right answer

It's TRUE!
Proof: http://obozrevatel.com/politics/198...akonodatelnom-urovne-pereimenovat-rossiyu.htm

If accepted, Russian Federation will be called "Moscovia", violators of this rule will be fined ~$70.

 

[jouni]

Actually Ukraine should ask from us the permit to use the term "Rus" , prince Rurik originally coming from here.

 

[Cadian]

Actually Ukraine should ask from us the permit to use the term "Rus" , prince Rurik originally coming from here.

No dude, don't think you know Ukrainian history better than Ukrainian parliamentarians. You've just demonstrated a disregard for the history of a great country!

 

[jouni]

No dude, don't think you know Ukrainian history better than Ukrainian parliamentarians. You've just demonstrated a disregard for the history of a great country!

Here is to both of you Russia and Ukraine. Memories of the finer things of old socialism days. Finnish song about beauty of Ukraine and sufferings of war. Hoping some time also this conflict ends.

 

[pmaitra]

Actually Ukraine should ask from us the permit to use the term "Rus" , prince Rurik originally coming from here.

Prince Rurik came from Roslagen, Sweden, managed to subjugate the Finno-Ugric tribes for a brief period, but when he tried to subjugate the Slavic Tribes, The Slavic Tribes united, kicked Prince Rurik and his Viking warriors in the posterior and sent them packing back to wherever they came from.

 

[Akim]

Here is to both of you Russia and Ukraine. Memories of the finer things of old socialism days. Finnish song about beauty of Ukraine and sufferings of war. Hoping some time also this conflict ends.

Now, those who will take in the structure of these parts of Donbass (Russia or Ukraine) - he is lost.

 

[pmaitra]

TRUE or FALSE?

Try to guess, is it true or false:

Ukrainian parliament will vote for a new law, that restricts using terms "Russia" and "Rus' " in relation to Russian Federation, because "Russia" is a historical name for a state on current Ukrainian territory, so calling Russian Federation "Russia" consists denial of Ukrainian statehood and encroachment on Ukrainian sovereignty. Now "Moscovia" term should be used referring to Russian Federation.

Spoiler: Check the right answer

It's TRUE!
Proof: http://obozrevatel.com/politics/198...akonodatelnom-urovne-pereimenovat-rossiyu.htm

If accepted, Russian Federation will be called "Moscovia", violators of this rule will be fined ~$70.

Yeah, I have heard such codswallop from the Ukrainian politicians.

• Russian is a northern dialect of Ukrainian.
• Buddha was Ukrainets.
• The Ukrainian Army made an orderly retreat from Debaltsevo.

On a lighter note, perhaps we can resolve this problem by having a wrestling match between these two?

VS

I would bet on Putin. Yatz does not seem to eat well or lift weights.

 

[Akim]

Economically part of the Donbass region, which is under the control of DNR/LNR is not viable. Russia do not need it. All valuable businesses she stole and brought into its territory. She barely feeds annexed Crimea. Ukraine this uncontrolled area is also not needed. Politically it will be a Russian enclave, which has to feed Ukraine.

 

[jouni]

Economically part of the Donbass region, which is under the control of DNR/LNR is not viable. Russia do not need it. All valuable businesses she stole and brought into its territory. She barely feeds annexed Crimea. Ukraine this uncontrolled area is also not needed. Politically it will be a Russian enclave, which has to feed Ukraine.

We also had to give part of Karelia to Russia. Before it was one of the richest part of Finland, now it is neglegted wasteland with great poverty. Russia has anti-midas touch.

 

[Akim]

We also had to give part of Karelia to Russia. Before it was one of the richest part of Finland, now it is neglegted wasteland with great poverty. Russia has anti-midas touch.

No one does not give. This situation is similar to the FRG-GDR.
All businesses had been re-registered to another part of Ukraine, all universities and colleges went from there.

 

[Cadian]

No one does not give. This situation is similar to the FRG-GDR.
All businesses had been re-registered to another part of Ukraine, all universities and colleges went from there.

One important note. Pro-Ukrainian businesses and universities went from there.

Take a read:
http://sergs-inf.livejournal.com/766332.html
http://kariatidadn.livejournal.com/210561.html

A brief translation:

1) students of Donetsk and Luganks universities can receive Russian type certificate if they protect the diploma in one of Russian universities. For this purpose DNR and LNR universities have organised trips for their graduates to a number nearby Russian universities, where everyone has successfully defended.

2) MSU rector confirmed, that high school diplomas given by DNR and LNR would be recognized by Russian universities, so young people can attempt to go there.

Donbass is not Ukraine and will not be, get used to it.

 

[Akim]

One important note. Pro-Ukrainian businesses and universities went from there.

Take a read:
http://sergs-inf.livejournal.com/766332.html
http://kariatidadn.livejournal.com/210561.html

A brief translation:

1) students of Donetsk and Luganks universities can receive Russian type certificate if they protect the diploma in one of Russian universities. For this purpose DNR and LNR universities have organised trips for their graduates to a number nearby Russian universities, where everyone has successfully defended.

2) MSU rector confirmed, that high school diplomas given by DNR and LNR would be recognized by Russian universities, so young people can attempt to go there.

Tales from the Vienna woods. Read the Donetsk forum and find examples of graduation MSU.

 

[jouni]

@Cadian, @marrakesh. What is Russian GDP today in Rubles? I found a figure of 70 000 Bn rubles. Is it correct? Looks like price tag for Crimea has been quite high.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-at-current-prices-imf-data.html

 

[Akim]

@Cadian
Continued
In Donetsk there is no representation of MSU. To confirm your diploma inhabitant of Donetsk must personally go to Moscow. In Donetsk all millionaires? Who had money a long time from there on the left.

 

[marrakesh]

@Cadian, @marrakesh. What is Russian GDP today in Rubles? I found a figure of 70 000 Bn rubles. Is it correct? Looks like price tag for Crimea has been quite high.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-at-current-prices-imf-data.html

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator...pi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc
PPP GNI
2013 - 3 454 711 327 664
2014 - 3 609 665 924 734
average weighted rate the ruble / dollar:
2013 - 31,848
2014 - 38.4217
Count PPP GNI to rubles:
2013 - 110 025 646 363 443
2014 - 138 689 501 260 352

 

[marrakesh]

@Cadian
Continued
In Donetsk there is no representation of MSU. To confirm your diploma inhabitant of Donetsk must personally go to Moscow. In Donetsk all millionaires? Who had money a long time from there on the left.

Untruth. Documents sent by mail. If the applicant is accepted, he receives a call.