China did attack India and it is worse than a fairy tale to claim that "nobody in China wants to attack India".
Many Indian people don't know much about China, but then do the Chinese themselves? All they know is from Government controlled media. We have free media in India. In fact, an average Chinese probably knows more about India than about China.
The only difference between Kashmir and Tibet/East Turkestan is that the latter two should never have been part of China because historically they never were part of China, and that the former has always been part of India since times immemorial.
Furthermore, I have doubts about Inner Mongolia and Manchuria, who are not Han Chinese; but that would be digressing.
The only strategy India should follow is to make many small incisions in China before a two-front war is possible. Pakistan is not financially capable of fighting India for more than 5-7 business days. China will not fight long if the US and Russia side with India. I don't see the big fuss either when clearly overt war is being avoided and we all know that nobody in Asia is stupid enough to make a drastic move before things settle down in the west.
Have the Chinese decided now to wipe out Indo-China war history? They did publish a war documentary; but I am not sure if it was for domestic or international consumption. It probably was created in Chinese because there are english subtitles, but the videos I have posted below have English commentary.
One thing CHINA should remember that INDIA did not use its AIRFORCE during the 1962 war. If not for the then Prime minister's decission for not using the Air force, INDIA could have crushed the chinese hands down and there would not been any border dispute between INDIA and CHINA.
Future warfare will be far more sophisticated than we can assume now, information is key, UAV's will be key in this war, China is honing its skills in cyberwarfare, they can take out our satellites and surveillance UAV's. Assuming that China by 2025 will have its own GPS satellites could be a disadvantage for India since India would have to rely on US or Russia for that unless and until we have our own. India needs to develop drones like the one US posses MQ1-RQ1 predator to deter any Chinese invasion from the NE region. As for Pakistan we need Afghanistan, Af is very imp place in the future for India for this very reason, but for that a strong Afghan govt. is imp. If India is successful in having military bases in Aghan region then Pak cannot fully divert it troops to the eastern border.
Like i said intel is key to this war since locating the enemy won't be easy in hostile terrain and envoirnment.Drones are impotant and we need to secure our satellites from being hacked. I would prefer that our future systems wont be in english. If our programming need to be done in a secret code or language to make it difficult if not impossible to hack.
Why did this thread get hijacked for a India-China pissing match? I thought this thread was supposed to discuss a rational view of a improbable, but possible war scenario - why do the moderators allow the patriotic trolls to hijack the thread? Please stop any trolling ....
well,IAF in 1962 was just a sitting duck in the front of PLAAF equipped with 3000+ Mig15/17/19.Furthermroe , CHina had set up full defence industry chains in Manchuria whiie India could not product any jet bird.
And your 3000 + Mig15/17/19 would have been flying from Beijing ? and regarding your cheap quality copies and rip off of russian planes we have dedicated thread . I will Love to see you debating there. forget making a plane . China still has to import Russian engines.
Your planes avionics and systems are so good that Pakistanis are looking to upgrade in very first year.
I am still not sure why the pissing match is going on - the Troll from China is inciting people to meaningless rhetoric and people are responding - seems like I wasted my efforts here and should not post my sections 4 and 5 - nobody seems interested anymore in the topic in the header. Ace out ...
We are here in this thread to discuss a probable 'War Scenario' , certainly not a 'War' which was already fought , anymore reference to that history will simply invite infraction or ban , ace , please continue with your post.
PN and PLAN tactics:
The sea battle in the Arabian sea and Persian gulf will be primarily between the western fleet of IN and the PN and PLAN. The PN does not have a carrier or a nuclear submarine. However, they do have several frigates and destroyers, together with the PLAN nuclear submarine that can damage Indian merchant marine. The PLAN may send over a task force to the PN naval bases to harry the Indian supply lines (Oil from ME, engineering imports from EU and USA etc). The objective for PLAN and PN in the Arabian Sea/ Persian Gulf sector would be destroy as much Indian merchant marine as possible, sink a few IN ships and try to land commando missions at or near the IN naval bases in the western sector. If the PN/ PLAN can keep the IN western fleet on the defensive and draw in the southern fleet towards the defense of the Indian mainland and significantly reduce threat to the pak/ chinese merchant marine. This might also help the PLAN SSBN to slip through the IN in the Bay of Bengal to attack the IN naval bases and docks.
The IN western command would like to blockade the Karachi harbor like they did in 1971. They surely have the ability to overcome any challenges posed by PN alone. However, if the PLAN sends help to the PN, the roles might be reversed and IN maybe playing defense. So, the deial scenario would be to send in the submarine fleet with support from a carrier to sink some merchant marine ships and maybe one or two PN frigates to block the approach to Karachi harbor as soon as possible. Once this is achieved it will be difficult for the PN or a PLAN task force to operate any deep draft vessel out of the largest Pak base. Since neither the PN or the PLAN task force would be a true blue water navy, forming a fleet to work independantly away from a large naval base, not to mention with no air cover (away from Karachi, with no carriers) would be impossible for the PN/PLAN combine.
In the end, a swift and decisive action by the IN can end the PN/ PLAN threat in the arabian sea/ Persian gulf, exposing the soft supply line for China and Pak merchant marine to any hunter vessel (Frigate or submarine) sent out by IN southern command. A failure to do so early on, and any loss of control by IN will lead to a reversal of fortunes with IN defending the shorelines and the Indian merchant marine at the mercy of PLAN/ PN hunters.