If India has to go for a two fronts war against China and Pakistan...

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    The PLAN does not currently have the capabilty to effectively project power in our backyard (Indian Ocean). China's "ring of pearls" has little military significance.

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    India keen on buying britains futuristic aircraft carrier


    ShareA futuristic aircraft carrier that India is reported to be keen on buying from Britain is envisaged as a giant guardian of the high seas, capable of travelling thousands of kilometres from home and wreaking massive destruction on enemy targets, experts said Monday.

    India has reportedly “lodged a firm expression of interest” in buying one of two huge aircraft carriers that are currently under construction - the largest warships ever built by Britain, and designed to be the most capable aircraft carriers outside the US Navy.
    Britain is considering selling the warship to India for two billion pounds under a cost-cutting plan chalked out by its ministry of defence, the Observer reported Sunday quoting senior defence sources.

    The two 65,000-tonne ships are being built for the Royal Navy by British Aerospace (BAE) - HMS Queen Elizabeth, on which work began this July will be the first to be rolled out in 2016. And preparatory work has started for the second, the Prince of Wales, due for launch in 2018.

    A leading British naval expert told IANS the two warships embody a “huge quantum leap” in terms of technology, reach and power.

    “It’s all about power projection. The Indian Navy is in the process of expanding its reach as a naval force capable of operating far from its own shores,” said Jon Rosamond, editor of the authoritative Jane’s Navy International.

    “The Indian Navy has been patrolling the Gulf of Aden on an anti-piracy mission, but this ship will increase its reach even further afield,” he added.

    It would give India access to the Far East and even the Western Pacific. The aircraft carrier has a life span of 40-50 years, so there has been a lot of speculation. People are talking about the rivalry with China in particular,” Rosamond told IANS.

    The ships under construction are the result of recommendations that came out of a wide-ranging Strategic Defence Review (SDR) undertaken by the Labour government in 1997 of nearly every weapon system in Britain.

    The SDR concluded: “The emphasis is now on increased offensive air power, and an ability to operate the largest possible range of aircraft in the widest possible range of roles.”

    The warships will be equipped with ski ramp-assisted takeoff at the front, which will suit the Sukhoi strike aircraft that India is buying from Russia, Rosamond said.

    “It will be able to carry not only enhanced aircraft, but also more of them,” Rosamond said.

    Strategic experts said that the anticipated “quantum jump” in Indian naval power would have the backing of the world’s major navies.

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    China worried about India's growing military power

    The fleet-footed Dragon may be rapidly spreading its wings across the globe but remains a wee bit wary of the flat-footed Elephant next door.

    The US Pentagon's latest assessment of the expanding military might of China, which has now overtaken Japan to become the world's second-largest economy, holds that Beijing is "concerned" with the "strategic ramifications of India's rising economic, political and military power". Consequently, "to improve regional deterrence", the 2.25-million strong People's Liberation Army has moved "more advanced and survivable" solid-fuelled CCS-5 nuclear-capable ballistic missiles closer to the borders with India.

    " China may also be developing contingency plans to move airborne troops into the region," says the Pentagon report on 'military and security developments involving the People's Republic of China'.

    Though there is nothing new in all this to startle the Indian defence establishment, it does reinforce the point that China continues to upgrade its already massive build-up of military infrastructure all along the unresolved 4,057-km Line of Actual Control.


    Satellite pictures, for instance, have long disclosed that a large area in central China, near Delingha and Da Qaidam in Qinghai province, has close to 60 launch pads for nuclear-capable ballistic missiles, which can easily target north India.
    Moreover, the new Chinese road-mobile DF-31A missiles, which can hit targets 11,200 km away, and the JL-2 submarine-launched ballistic missiles, which have a reach beyond 7,200 km, are weapons which even has the US worried.

    China, of course, continues to needle India with frequent troop incursions across the LAC, from Trig Heights and Pangong Tso lake in Eastern Ladakh to the "finger area" in Sikkim and Asaphila sector in Arunachal Pradesh.

    The Pentagon report, in fact, says, "Despite increased political and economic relations over the years between China and India, tensions remain along their shared 4,057-km border, most notably over Arunachal Pradesh, which China asserts is part of Tibet and therefore of China, and over the Askai Chin region."

    Holding that both sides "stepped up efforts to assert their claims" in 2009, the report refers to China's bid to block the ADB's $2.90 billion loan to India, claiming part of the loan was to be used for water projects in Arunachal. "This represented the first time China sought to influence this dispute through a multilateral institution," it says.

    There is no getting away from the stark asymmetry between India and China in terms of strategic and military capabilities. But the 1.3-million strong Indian armed forces are no longer the ill-equipped forces they were during the virtual walkover in 1962.

    India plans to test its most ambitious ballistic missile, the 5,000-km Agni-V, by early 2011 to add to its military deterrence posture. Moreover, apart from the almost ready-to-be-inducted 3,500-km Agni-III, IAF has already begun to base Sukhoi-30MKI fighters in north-east as well as upgrade several airstrips and helipads in the region.

    Latest Defence news: China worried about India's growing military power

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    Tough challenges in neighbourhood; update war doctrines: PM


    Update war doctrines for new threats: PM

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    New Delhi: Backing the modernisation of defence forces, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Monday underlined his commitment to preserving India's strategic autonomy and stressed that it is too large a country to be boxed into any alliance or regional arrangement.

    Commending the armed forces for their contribution to the country's security, the prime minister said: "Our Armed Forces deserve the best and I wish to assure you that the government will make every effort to ensure this. No country can make progress without ensuring its security and territorial integrity."

    Manmohan Singh also strongly endorsed the growing demand for the much-needed modernisation of the defence forces. "As our economy grows and our technological capabilities expand, we must set higher standards for the modernisation of our defence forces," he said.



    "It is not enough for us to keep pace with change. When it comes to defence capability, we must be ahead of the technology curve," he stressed.

    Defence modernisation, the Prime Minister said, must involve the full chain starting with updating war fighting doctrines to meet new threats to our security, preparation of appropriate staff quality requirements and creating a broad-based production and delivery infrastructure on the ground.

    Alluding to a shift of economic and political power to Asia, he also said that "some of our toughest challenges lie in the immediate neighbourhood", and underlined that the country cannot "realise growth ambitions unless we ensure peace and stability in South Asia".

    "We have always prided ourselves on preserving our strategic autonomy, and this is an article of faith for us," Singh told the Combined Commanders' Conference in the capital.

    "India is too large a country to be boxed into any alliance or regional or sub-regional arrangements, whether trade, economic or political," he said.

    Putting India's economic transformation at the heart of the country's foreign policy and strategic orientation, Singh said in order to sustain 9 to 10 percent growth rate and to modernize its infrastructure, India needs to "maintain healthy relations with all major powers".

    Describing "Naxalism (Maoism)" as "a serious challenge to India's internal security", he said combating it was a "collective task involving the centre and the states". "At the same time, we have to accelerate our development efforts in the Naxal-affected areas and make our administrative machinery more sensitive and responsive to local concerns," he said.

    Placing India's growth story in the larger global context, the Prime Minister said although the Indian economy has weathered the global economic crisis of 2008 better than most of the large economies of the world, there is little room for complacency.

    "We have the advantage of a continental-sized economy and a large internal market, but our challenge will be to ensure that our growth is balanced across all regions and reaches all sections of our society," he said.

    "In global terms, we are witnessing a shift of economic and political power to Asia," he said, while calling for greater attention to the Asia-Pacific region, including South East Asia. "There is a palpable desire on the part of the countries of this region to enhance cooperation with us which we must reciprocate," he said ahead of the India-ASEAN summit next month.

    To realise India's growth targets, the country must diversify its energy options. "It is in this context that we need to operationalise our nuclear energy option, which holds great promise and is a necessity," he said.

    -IANS

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    Finally the PM wakes up to China threat.

    We must remember that China is not pulling hostility with India coz of border issue, but as a regional power giving competition to it not only militarily but economically also. They just cant digest the fact that the 2nd largest population after them is in the region who is rising.

    In India's huge population, every person who looks at a electronic product and it is tagged made is china. Why is the establishment importing goods from a hostile country who is hell bent aggressive with us. Why cant we import from someone else. This change will hugely hit China as it is a export oriented economy.

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    We cannot import from someone else because (1) either there is no one else who makes them or (2) no one makes them as cheap as China.

    Take for example Apple iPhone. Why would one buy that if one gets the same features from another US company's product that is manufactured in China?

    The labour scenario is China is so bad, that even Indians won't work for such low wages. China is not a rich country, albeit a superpower! Travel outside the cities like Shanghai and Beijing, and our Maoist dominated villages could look better.

    Evidence (see the full video(s), and other parts if you so desire):



    Last edited by pmaitra; 14-09-10 at 11:52 AM.

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    yes, India live a better life quality than CHina... India is richer than CHina.....keep repeating it ,then you can have a good sleep!

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    We need to prepare for an all out war against China, every day, every hour, every minute!

    Just that we will not initiate a war against China. Nonetheless, we need to prepare as if we are going to declare war on them tomorrow!

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    PM responding to his critics i guess, its good, he has to act like a leader and take active part in interests of the nation and its threats. When the leaders speak, the world listens and so will China.

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    He didnt mean that India is richer than China , he meant China has world class cities and third class villages.

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    I like you sarcasm.

    I like your "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" avataar.

    Ok, will big brother, for a moment, quit watching me and watch the following video?



    Copying, piracy and reverse engineering does not a superpower make!

    Respect is a far cry, because it has to be commanded, not demanded.

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    Govt revises Union War Book to meet current situation - The Times of India

    Govt revises Union War Book to meet current situation
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    NEW DELHI: The government has quietly gone in for a major revision of the Union War Book, a classified voluminous document which lays down the exact role each government ministry, department and wing will play in times of war, to better reflect the current security scenario and ground situation.

    The revision in the Union War Book even came up for mention during the annual combined commanders' conference, attended by PM Manmohan Singh and other senior ministers, which ended here on Tuesday.

    "The entire government machinery, from the armed forces to the railways, civil aviation, shipping, surface transport, health and the like, has to be mobilised in the event of a war,'' said a top official.

    "Times, tactics and doctrines have changed since the Union War Book, which has been in existence since the days of the British Raj, was last revised years ago. Primarily carried out by the defence and home ministries as well as the Cabinet Secretariat, the update caters for all this,'' he added.

    The new Union War Book, which is with the Cabinet Committee of Security for the final nod, lays down action plans in minute details to meet any contingency during war.

    It spells out, for instance, how air, train and other services will be commandeered in times of national emergency. It also provides the basis for forward deployment of military assets like the movement of a Mirage-2000 fighter squadron from Gwalior to say Ambala or Leh.

    "It's the Bible for us. All commanding officers get extracts, marked secret/top-secret, which flow from the Union War Book about where his unit will be stationed and what role it will play during war,'' said an Army officer.

    The Union War Book was last taken up for implementation during Operation Parakram, the 10-month-long forward troop mobilisation launched in the aftermath of the December 2001 terrorist attack, when India almost went to war with Pakistan.

    Since then, with the armed forces themselves revising their doctrines, the need was felt to also revise the Union War Book. The Army, for instance, learnt the harsh lesson that slow mobilisation of its strike formations -- it took almost a month for them to mobilise at the `border launch pads' -- would no longer do. Instead, the strategy should be to mobilise fast and strike hard.

    And now, as was first reported by TOI, the Army war doctrine is undergoing yet another revision to effectively meet the challenges of a possible `two-front war' with China and Pakistan in a worst-case scenario, deal with asymmetric and fourth-generation warfare, enhance strategic reach and joint operations with IAF and Navy. The revision in the Union War Book is in keeping with the times.
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    Is this a regular revision or government anticipating something BIG???

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    well it is something big can say it
    by seeing statements of Prime Minster & Defense minster from past few days


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