mukul_2210
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does he really think that Su30mki will let anything come that close? i.e that's the range of the enemies machine gun?....The F-15 pilots used their simulated combat experience against the thrust vectoring capability of the Lockheed Martin F-22 to exploit a vulnerability of the Su-30 in a hard turn, the pilot said."So we start to pull in on him, and then all of a sudden you start to see the [Su-30's aft-] end kick down and he starts doing vectored thrust,
"the pilot says...But now he starts falling out of the sky. He's falling out of the sky so fast that you don't even have to go up," the pilot adds. "You just have to pull back on the stick a little bit, pull the throttle, go to guns and come in and drill his brains out."
haha good one but then we get patriotic about the Mig-21Bison we might even dream that its stealth and can shoot down the F-22after reading the above replies, I think that it is stupid for Indian to buy MACA and Su30,after IAF has MIg21 bis.
what you are saying is equalent to "why USA needs f-22 when they have f-15?"after reading the above replies, I think that it is stupid for Indian to buy MACA and Su30,after IAF has MIg21 bis.
did you mean Mig-35?they performance of mig-21 bison is indeed exceptional in iaf service.but i still feel that for interceptor role iaf should have mig-31 as it is the fastest fighter plane in the world.
Excatly,......The primary use of Mig-21s by IAF will be using it has a Interceptor Aircrafts.Mig 21 bison is a high speed interceptor .It is very useful for point defence and Combat air patrol roles
Mig 21 Bisons after upgradation are still very potent and can easily knock out the Junk fighter JF 17
Common guys,Mig-21 is a tried and tested a/c on the other hand Junk Fighter-17 is a joke at which even Chinese PLAAF din't laugh!! What do we know about the electronics and avionics of the Junk Fighter? recently, we have seen failed state pakistanis running after the French and Britons, which tells us an interesting story regarding whats inside this piece of Junk!!
Agreed,........But presenly AWACS wouldnt be play a key role in the Sub-Continenet. Since both both the airforce are not well know to AWACS, so there will a limit to their importance. Although we already have awacs in our Inventory, but IAF didnt exploited to its max.Mig-21 has better radar with longer range ,
they have smaller profile
they have better T/W ratio , it can probably climb and turn faster
It can carry and fire an R-77
JF-17 does not even have proper BVR missile or radar yet.
At the very least , because of the AWACS support they have , their radar disadvantage would not be a major issue.
Same applies for MIg-21 as well.
Honestly AWACS pretty much ensure the aircraft that has the lower profile, faster climb rate and longer range missile wins the engagement. In this case that is the Mig-21.
Also PAK can barely even afford to upgrade their F-16's(which is their most capable and roughly equivalent to our Mig-29's) , what money is left for their JF-17's.
As of now pak has only an order of 50 of these aircraft , and now they are asking for block 2 from chines after failing to bring in Europeans to upgrade the aircraft
The Sukhoi Su-30MKI and the second line superiority fighters like Mig-209 and Mirages-2000s will provide the aircover with the support of Ground and AWACS.If war breaks out then JF 17 and Mig 21 CLASH is inevitable
Because Presently PAF has allocated the role of Close air support to JF 17 .it means that JF 17 will attack the Indian armour and mechanised formations
In India pak war situation , Mig 21 will provide air cover to Mig 27 and Jaguar which will be used for carpet bombing the pak army assets and formations
The mig 21 will at the most go 70 to 80 km inside the border because of its limited range
The Big boys like Su 30 mki Mig 29, Mirage 2000 are meant for deep strikes and taking out the F16 as well as important ground assets like Command and control centres and radar stations
But still F-16 face major security treat to U.S that why f-16 given to PAF are not installed with AESE and other advance software . because they fear china can possibly do a back engineering and is 24*7 under the surveillance of usaf . and neither they are in such a great number that they can pose much of a threat .Whereas,......When it comes to F-16s. Do u know In early 2006 the PAF ordered AIM-120C AMRAAM missiles for their F-16s. If that is true than the F-16s can barely be equivalent to IAF's primary air superiority fighter Sukhoi-30MKI.
F-16s with AIM-120 supported by AWACS could a real threat for IAF.
no i meant mig-31 which was designed to replace mig-25 in soviet union and has a top speed of mach 3.2did you mean Mig-35?
He/She's a troll. End of.You are not a chinese . you are either a pakistani or Indian masquerading as chinese .
Offcourse F-16s to Pakistan comes with strings attached. Besides, PAF cannot even fly these aircrafts to another country without the US clearance permission. Americans were so concern that they made PAK to force to build and secure a separate F-16 base.But still F-16 face major security treat to U.S that why f-16 given to PAF are not installed with AESE and other advance software . because they fear china can possibly do a back engineering and is 24*7 under the surveillance of usaf . and neither they are in such a great number that they can pose much of a threat .
JF17 : how it could be a failure , they surely can drop bombs but they defiantly doest fall in league of su or mig 29 . secondly they might be in numbers but you cant put your money on them weather they can outperform any of the Indian jets as its single engine thrust and its maneuverability is rigid .War is won by technology not by quantity . now technicalities , you must be privy of the following info . as it is all over internet.
What is that the Mig-31 does have which the MKI dosent??no i meant mig-31 which was designed to replace mig-25 in soviet union and has a top speed of mach 3.2
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