China 'seriously concerned' by Philippine building in South China Sea

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China 'seriously concerned' by Philippine's building in South China Sea

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's Foreign Ministry expressed serious concern on Friday after the Philippines said it would resume repair and reconstruction works on disputed islands in the South China Sea, saying Manila was infringing on Chinese sovereignty.

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The Philippines had halted activities last year over concerns about the effect on an international arbitration complaint filed against China.

Manila called on all countries last October to stop construction work on small islands and reefs in the South China Sea, most of which is claimed by China.

China itself is undertaking massive reclamation works in the area, while Taiwan, Malaysia and Vietnam have also been improving their facilities.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said it was "seriously concerned" by the remarks by Philippine Foreign Minister Albert del Rosario.

"On the one hand the Philippines makes unreasonable criticism about China's normal building activities on its own isles, and on the other announces it will resume repairs on an airport, runway and other illegal constructions on China's Spratly Islands, which it illegally occupies," Hua said.

"This is not only a series infringement of China's sovereignty, but it also exposes the Philippines' hypocrisy," she told a daily news briefing, calling on the Philippines to withdraw from the islands.

The Philippines foreign ministry said the works, including repairs to an airstrip, did not violate an informal code of conduct in the South China Sea because they would not alter the status quo in the disputed area. The 2002 code was signed by China and 10 Southeast Asian states in Phnom Penh.

In 2013, Manila filed an arbitration case at The Hague questioning the maritime boundaries claimed by Beijing. Del Rosario said Manila expects a decision in February next year.

Hua repeated that China would not participate in the case.

China claims almost the entire sea, believed to have huge deposits of oil and gas. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also claim the area, where about $5 trillion of seaborne trade pass every year.
China 'seriously concerned' by Philippine's building in South China Sea

Now this is a serious violation of 'international' relations as sanctioned by China.

It sure is a violation of the poaching by China extending her sovereignty in the SCS. Imagine poaching by Philippines on the poaching done by China!

Just not cricket!

I love that form China that one from China as below

"On the one hand the Philippines makes unreasonable criticism about China's normal building activities on its own isles, and on the other announces it will resume repairs on an airport, runway and other illegal constructions on China's Spratly Islands, which it illegally occupies," Hua said

"This is not only a series infringement of China's sovereignty, but it also exposes the Philippines' hypocrisy," she told a daily news briefing, calling on the Philippines to withdraw from the islands.

What hypocrisy!

But that hypocrisy is that of China.

Chori aur sina jori!

 

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Indonesian president says China's main claim in South China Sea has no legal basis

JAKARTA/TOKYO (Reuters) - Indonesian President Joko Widodo said one of China's main claims to the majority of the South China Sea had no legal basis in international law, but Jakarta wanted to remain an "honest broker" in one of Asia's most thorny territorial disputes.

Widodo's comments in an interview with a major Japanese newspaper came as he embarked on a visit to Japan and China, and was the first time he had taken a position on the issue since coming to power in October.

China claims 90 percent of the South China Sea, which is believed to be rich in oil and gas. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan lay claim to parts of the sea, where about $5 trillion of ship-borne trade passes every year.

The territorial dispute is seen as one of Asia's hot spots, carrying risks that it could spiral out of control and result in conflict as countries aggressively stake their claims.

"We need peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region. It is important to have political and security stability to build up our economic growth," Widodo was quoted as saying in an interview with the Yomiuri newspaper published on Monday.

"So we support the Code of Conduct (of the South China Sea) and also dialogue between China and Japan, China and ASEAN."

But in a Japanese version of the interview published on Sunday, Widodo rejected one of Beijing's main claims to the South China Sea.

"The 'nine-dashed line' that China says marks its maritime border has no basis in any international law," said Widodo.

Maritime lawyers note Beijing routinely outlines the scope of its claims with reference to the so-called nine-dashed line that takes in about 90 percent of the 3.5 million square kilometers South China Sea on Chinese maps.

The president was not speaking on China's overall claim on the South China Sea, but only its nine-dash dotted line that stretches deep into the maritime heart of Southeast Asia, his foreign policy adviser Rizal Sukma told Reuters on Monday.

"In 2009, Indonesia sent its official stance on the issue to the U.N. commission on the delimitation of the continental shelf, stating that the nine-dotted line has no basis in international law," said Sukma. "So, nothing changes."

China's Foreign Ministry appeared to downplay the remarks, repeating its standard line about Chinese sovereignty and that the dispute needs sorting out between the countries directly involved.

"The core of the South China Sea dispute is because of some countries' illegal occupation of several islands in the South China Sea and their adjacent waters has caused overlapping maritime claims," spokesman Hong Lei told a daily news briefing.

China recently expressed its anger at the Vietnamese head of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) when he rejected Chinese claims based on the nine-dash line.

This vague boundary was first officially published on a map by China's Nationalist government in 1947 and has been included in subsequent maps issued under Communist rule.

Indonesia, the largest country in Southeast Asia, has been a self-appointed broker in the myriad territorial disputes between its neighbors and China over the South China Sea. "Indonesia's willingness as an honest broker remains the same," Sukma said.

In his first trip to Japan as president, Widodo met Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Monday and their defense ministers signed a defense pact to promote dialogue and cooperation.

The agreement is the latest effort by Tokyo to forge closer security ties with Southeast Asian nations and build a counter-balance to China.

Besides the defense pact, Japan agreed with Indonesia to strengthen cooperation in maritime security and development of marine-related industries. Japan also announced 140 billion yen ($1.17 billion) in official development assistance to help build Indonesia's railway network.

Japan has already bolstered partnerships with the Philippines and Vietnam, the two countries most at odds with China over the South China Sea. Japan itself is embroiled in a bitter dispute with China over uninhabited islands in the East China Sea, further to the north.

Widodo will visit China after Japan. Indonesia and China have a more developed military relationship and Jakarta has bought Chinese-made missiles and other military hardware.
Indonesian president says China's main claim in South China Sea has no legal basis

Indonesia has been balanced in its approach to China and has a very good relationship with China.

However, it appears that even Indonesia has got tired of China's hegemonic imperialism and has spoken out.

China with its imperialist stentorian attitude is actually being stupid and isolating the world against it.

 

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China state media tells US to stop 'kibitzing'

Chinese state media turned to Yiddish on Saturday in the war of words over territorial disputes, criticising the United States as a "kibitzer" for what it called meddling in the South China Sea issue.

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A commentary published in English by the official Xinhua news agency was headlined "America the Kibitzer" -- which refers to an onlooker who gives unwanted advice -- in this case regarding the South China Sea.

China claims almost all of the South China Sea, a position that conflicts with Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, as well as with Taiwan.

US officials have called for a multilateral agreement to end all actions that risk further inflaming tensions in the region, which includes US allies.

"Uncle Sam has long been in the grip of many addictions, such as muscle-flexing, preaching and borrowing, but there has turned out to be one more: kibitzing," the commentary said.

The commentary followed remarks by Commander of the US Seventh Fleet, Vice Admiral Robert Thomas, calling for patrols of the South China Sea as well as US senators urging a strategy to deal with China's land reclamation in the disputed region.

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Thomas this week called on Southeast Asian nations to form a combined maritime force to patrol areas of the South China Sea, Bloomberg News reported.

"If ASEAN members were to take the lead in organising something along those lines, trust me, the US 7th Fleet would be ready to support," Bloomberg quoted Thomas as saying.

ASEAN is the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

"Such outside kibitzing... is way out of line for a party that has publicly committed itself not to (take) sides on the South China Sea disputes," the Xinhua commentary said.

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China state media tells US to stop 'kibitzing'

The US has no influence with Indonesia or Vietnam.

So China is the joker in the pack if its think the US is 'kibutzing' anyone.

It is China with her imperialist attitude of dictating to others as if they were their vassal is what is making her looking silly by the day and is isolating herself from the world.

 

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Testing Beijing, Japan eyes growing role in South China Sea security

TOKYO (Reuters) - Seventy years after its imperial forces were kicked out of the South China Sea, Japan is quietly moving back into the region, forging security ties with the Philippines and Vietnam as both Southeast Asian nations try to cope with China's territorial ambitions.

Tokyo's security cooperation is broad-based: It is supplying maritime patrol boats to the two countries while Japan will hold its first naval exercises with the Philippines in the coming months. Japanese military doctors are even advising Vietnamese submariners on how to deal with decompression sickness.

Japan is providing this help, and more, in a calibrated escalation of involvement to avoid a backlash from Beijing, said Japanese sources with knowledge of the assistance.

Manila and Hanoi are the two capitals most at odds with Beijing over the South China Sea. Japan itself is embroiled in a bitter row with China over uninhabited islands in the East China Sea, further to the north.

Tokyo has no territorial claims in the South China Sea, but worries about becoming isolated should China dominate a waterway through which much of Japan's ship-borne trade passes.

Japan's assistance follows a speech last May by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who said Tokyo would help Southeast Asia maintain freedom of navigation and overflight in the region.

The cooperation is also in line with a more muscular security policy advocated by Abe, who wants to loosen the restraints of Japan's pacifist post-war constitution, and dovetails with Washington's "rebalance" toward Asia.

"The trend is becoming clear and I don't think they (Japan) are going to back down from it, despite Chinese concerns," said Ian Storey, a regional security expert at Singapore's Institute of South East Asian Studies.

In a statement to Reuters, China's Foreign Ministry said it hoped Japan would "speak and act cautiously" over the South China Sea, adding Tokyo was not a party to the dispute.

ARTIFICIAL ISLANDS

During World War Two, the Imperial Japanese Navy operated submarines from the Spratly archipelago in the heart of the South China Sea.

The Spratlys is where China is now creating artificial islands from reefs and atolls so fast that Beijing will be able to extend the range of its navy and air force before long, experts say.

Some experts believe the new islands will allow China to create and police an air defense identification zone (ADIZ), where planes would have to identify themselves to Chinese authorities, although Beijing has routinely denied such speculation.

China sparked condemnation from Japan and the United States when it imposed an ADIZ above the East China Sea in late 2013. While the militaries from both countries have ignored that zone, it might not be so easy for smaller Southeast Asian nations to do so should one exist in the South China Sea.

"An ADIZ would be a catastrophe. It would severely limit air and maritime activity," a senior Japanese policymaker told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

NEW BOATS, EXERCISES

The planned joint naval exercises off the Philippines are part of a security agreement signed in Tokyo in January, which also outlined regular vice-ministerial defense talks and exchanges of senior officers.

The first of 10 coastguard vessels Japan is building for the Philippines will be delivered by the year-end.

Japan might also fund infrastructure improvements around a Philippine military base on Palawan Island, one of the closest major land masses to the Spratlys, said a Japanese source with knowledge of the plan.

The Philippine armed forces spokesman, Colonel Restituto Padilla, applauded Tokyo's engagement, adding it would be "natural for Japan and the Philippines to join forces to help each other secure these sea lanes".

Japan has not gone that far, although Defense Minister Gen Nakatani said last month that a policy of not sending patrol aircraft over the South China Sea might need to be reviewed given the importance of the waterway to Tokyo.

Nakatani's comments came after a top U.S. Navy officer said Washington would welcome Japanese air patrols in the region.

Vietnam's government did not immediately comment on Japan's assistance, which will include six used navy patrol boats for Hanoi as well as advice on treating decompression illness as Vietnam takes possession of additional sophisticated submarines from Russia.

"There are a lot of other things the Vietnamese want," said a Japanese Defense Ministry source without elaborating.

Elsewhere, Japanese Defense Ministry officials have held very preliminary talks on joint weapons production with Malaysia and Indonesia, the sources said.

Abe has also been drawing closer to Australia.

Canberra recently sent a Defense Ministry official to Tokyo to help Japan build ties in Southeast Asia, the Japanese Defense Ministry source said. An Australian defense spokesperson said an official had been posted to the Japanese ministry for 18 months, but did not give details on the person's role.

Changes to Japan's defense posture in the coming months will allow Abe to further deepen his involvement in Southeast Asia. For example, Japan is mulling military aid to finance arms sales.
Testing Beijing, Japan eyes growing role in South China Sea security

Note how China and its stupid policies of imperialism is allowing its bête noire Japan to rise and become it challenger as the conscience of SE Asia and Pacific.

China is indeed creating problems for itself by its asinine imperialist pursuits.

 

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China Slams Philippines For South China Sea 'Hypocrisy'
China slammed the Philippines for its hypocrisy on the South China Sea after Manila said that it would resume repair and reconstruction works there, news outlets reported Friday.

While the Philippines had halted such activities last year and suggested other countries do so as well because it was concerned about potential effects on its ongoing legal case against China, Foreign Minister Albert del Rosario had said Thursday that it would resume some activities. The move came amid massive Chinese land reclamation efforts there which Philippine officials say is designed to bolster Beijing's territorial claims and alter the status quo before any legal verdict is even reached by the arbitral tribunal at The Hague.

But on Friday, China used del Rosario's comments as an opportunity to turn the tables on the Philippines. According to Reuters, foreign policy spokesman Hua Chunying said China was now "seriously concerned" by Manila's decision to resume works in the South China Sea, which was both an infringement of Beijing's sovereignty and hypocritical.

"On the one hand the Philippines makes unreasonable criticism about China's normal building activities on its own isles, and on the other announces it will resume repairs on an airport, runway and other illegal constructions on China's Spratly Islands, which it illegally occupies," Hua said.

"This is not only a series infringement of China's sovereignty, but it also exposes the Philippines' hypocrisy," she noted at a news briefing. She also called on the Philippines to withdraw from the islands.:der:

Foreign Minister Albert del Rosario had emphasized Thursday in his remarks that the Philippines would only be proceeding on repair and maintenance in the South China Sea, and such works – which would include repairs on an airstrip – would not violate the 2002 Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea because it did not alter the status quo dramatically.

"We are taking the position that we can proceed with the repair and maintenance," del Rosario said according to Reuters.

This was in stark contrast to China's massive land reclamation activities, which del Rosario said aimed to change the status quo and enforce its infamous nine-dash line claim to control almost the whole South China Sea.

"China is accelerating its expansionist agenda and changing the status quo to actualize its nine-dash line claim and to control nearly the entire South China Sea before"¦the handing down of a decision of the arbitral tribunal on the Philippine submission," he said.

China Slams Philippines For South China Sea 'Hypocrisy' | The Diplomat

 

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isn't this same tic toc game they been play for years. nothing new, china did it, so did vietnam and phillippine. no one there can say they are right.

 

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China sea heating up! A small scale clash is not far. 2015 is turning out to be an interesting year.

 

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What would be interesting to watch is that China with its 'activities' is actually giving space for her old rival and one time master, Japan, to reassert herself in Asia.

The very fact that the countries that Japan had devastated during WW II are burying their fear and loathing of Japan, and instead are seeking Japan's influence, should be ring alarm bells for China.

And of course, there is always the USA hanging around in the background.

 

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What would be interesting to watch is that China with its 'activities' is actually giving space for her old rival and one time master, Japan, to reassert herself in Asia.

The very fact that the countries that Japan had devastated during WW II are burying their fear and loathing of Japan, and instead are seeking Japan's influence, should be ring alarm bells for China.

And of course, there is always the USA hanging around in the background.

 

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Japan is too much engrossed in worrying about its own security. Japan cannot be expected to protect any other State.
USA is getting overstretched. If three big conflicts start simultaneously in the world, then usa will find it much harder to respond. As I have said before, middle east is the key. My fear is toppling of Saudi monarchy can be the tipping point for wwiii

 

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Japan is too much engrossed in worrying about its own security. Japan cannot be expected to protect any other State.
USA is getting overstretched. If three big conflicts start simultaneously in the world, then usa will find it much harder to respond. As I have said before, middle east is the key. My fear is toppling of Saudi monarchy can be the tipping point for wwiii

Could you amplify with reasons as to why you believe so?

Has the US 7th Fleet moved away from the Pacific?

Does China has a free access to the Pacific that cannot be blocked by the navies of the region acting in consort under US guidance and assistance beyond any assistance of US assets elsewhere.

What about US' Pivot Asia?

More than 350,000 American troops are based somewhere in the Pacific, 200 ships, the majority of the Navy is in the Pacific. And the US has five of our seven treaty alliances are in the Pacific region.

Although the military component of pivot is important, it is in this area that the U.S. was already strongest. Moreover, it is America's economic and political interests in the Asia-Pacific that dictate the importance of ensuring peace and stability in the region.

 

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What would be interesting to watch is that China with its 'activities' is actually giving space for her old rival and one time master, Japan, to reassert herself in Asia.

No one is expecting help from a country can't even assert herself in her own dispute with China.
The most important lesson South Eastern Asians learned in 1997 was you can never count on Japanese.

The very fact that the countries that Japan had devastated during WW II are burying their fear and loathing of Japan, and instead are seeking Japan's influence, should be ring alarm bells for China.

Wrong again, if Japanese failed Asians in 1997 economically, then she failed anyone who bet on them in WW2 militarily even though she was enjoying the greatest military edge against China in history.

And of course, there is always the USA hanging around in the background.

Yes, US is the key. But the problem is there is not much US can do except fighting a war, while Chinese has a lot ways to get what they want without shooting a bullet.

 

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Yes, US is the key. But the problem is there is not much US can do except fighting a war, while Chinese has a lot ways to get what they want without shooting a bullet.

There is only one big problem with your theory - the more aggressive China gets, the more likely countries like Vietnam, Philipines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are going to be opening up their ports to US aircraft carriers, submarines, frigates and maybe even Air Force bases.

Then you will have the whole 7th fleet parked in South-East Asia.......and both you and I know that the Chinese navy is nowhere close to the USN even in 20 years time.

 

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No one is expecting help from a country can't even assert herself in her own dispute with China.
The most important lesson South Eastern Asians learned in 1997 was you can never count on Japanese.

It is your frustration that Japan is once again asserting itself and you cannot do a thing that speaks.

The geopolitics dynamic is an ever changing kaleidoscope.

China was once dependent on USSR (Russia), then it broke away. And now they are back together. Geopolitics!

Japan attacked the US in WWII and today they are the best of friends. Geopolitics.

And now, Japan is exerting herself and presenting herself as the new force which is out to defend free people of SE Asia.

Wrong again, if Japanese failed Asians in 1997 economically, then she failed anyone who bet on them in WW2 militarily even though she was enjoying the greatest military edge against China in history.

Who did Japan fail in WWII, if that is what you meant by then she failed anyone who bet on them in WW2 militarily even though she was enjoying the greatest military edge against China in history. Japan was on its own conquering nation after nation and subjugating China too, which required western help to free itself of Japan's stranglehold.

What exactly are you alluding to by Japan failing the Asians in 1997?

Yes, US is the key. But the problem is there is not much US can do except fighting a war, while Chinese has a lot ways to get what they want without shooting a bullet.

Chinese have no way over anyone.

What exactly can China do without firing a bullet?

Think that over.

US 7th Fleet is a component force of the United States Pacific Fleet. At present, it is the largest of the forward-deployed U.S. fleets, with 60 to 70 ships, 300 aircraft and 40,000 Navy and Marine Corps personnel.

It has 9 Task Forces.

Now go add the forces of all the Nations that are affected by China outlandish claims that whatever one sees to the horizon and what is beyond, everything belongs to China!

 

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There is only one big problem with your theory - the more aggressive China gets, the more likely countries like Vietnam, Philipines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are going to be opening up their ports to US aircraft carriers, submarines, frigates and maybe even Air Force bases.

It doesn't matter how many ports they open to US or how many US ships staying there. Chinese is not going to start a war and US made it very clear that they won't join a war which is not started by Chinese.

Then you will have the whole 7th fleet parked in South-East Asia.......and both you and I know that the Chinese navy is nowhere close to the USN even in 20 years time.

Well, this whole 7th fleet can't help anything in the "attack" of Chinese bankers, companies and even sales rep.

 

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It is your frustration that Japan is once again asserting itself and you cannot do a thing that speaks.

The geopolitics dynamic is an ever changing kaleidoscope.

China was once dependent on USSR (Russia), then it broke away. And now they are back together. Geopolitics!

Japan attacked the US in WWII and today they are the best of friends. Geopolitics.

And now, Japan is exerting herself and presenting herself as the new force which is out to defend free people of SE Asia.

Well, your claim is quite laughable. A country which is supposed to present herself as the new force which is out to defend free people of SE Asia is begging a 10,000 plus foreign troop to defend her homeland.

Who did Japan fail in WWII, if that is what you meant by then she failed anyone who bet on them in WW2 militarily even though she was enjoying the greatest military edge against China in history. Japan was on its own conquering nation after nation and subjugating China too, which required western help to free itself of Japan's stranglehold.

Oh, really? As a world leading military power at the time, Japan couldn't even claim her completely victory over an agricultural country in 5 years, not to mention this country had been stuck to civil war for decades? On the contrast, after 5 years subjugating, they concluded that they were slipping into bankruptcy quickly. The only way to avoid that is: start another front. What a great achievement.

What exactly are you alluding to by Japan failing the Asians in 1997?

When Asians were looking for financial aid from Japanese, they turned their back on Asians;
When every Asian country was begging them not to depreciate their Yen. They depreciated big time.

Chinese have no way over anyone.

What exactly can China do without firing a bullet?

Such as boat smashing.

Think that over.

US 7th Fleet is a component force of the United States Pacific Fleet. At present, it is the largest of the forward-deployed U.S. fleets, with 60 to 70 ships, 300 aircraft and 40,000 Navy and Marine Corps personnel.

It has 9 Task Forces.

Now go add the forces of all the Nations that are affected by China outlandish claims that whatever one sees to the horizon and what is beyond, everything belongs to China!

Well, when these countries are busy accusing each other's land claim, US fleet isn't that helpful.

 

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Well, your claim is quite laughable. A country which is supposed to present herself as the new force which is out to defend free people of SE Asia is begging a 10,000 plus foreign troop to defend her homeland.

Begging?

Again it show how little you understand geostrategy.

It is in the interest of the US that it has a forward staging for contingencies in Asia, mainly China.

Indeed Japan has changed its image from a pacifistic to an active participating Nation in the security of the free people of Asia.

Oh, really? As a world leading military power at the time, Japan couldn't even claim her completely victory over an agricultural country in 5 years, not to mention this country had been stuck to civil war for decades? On the contrast, after 5 years subjugating, they concluded that they were slipping into bankruptcy quickly. The only way to avoid that is: start another front. What a great achievement.

Again, you expose your ignorance of military geography.

Strategy is as intertwined with geography.

If you are talking about Japan in WWII, then it was all over Asia and even knocking the doors of India, with all its military resources including manpower stretched. And you think, China alone would be its centre of attention. Whatever for? China was itself fighting itself. It was being bolstered by massive aid, financial and military by the US.

And are you aware that China's geography itself is its protection?

Has Russia ever been captured as a whole? Again geography played its role.

Read the 'Heartland Theory' of Military Geography.
When Asians were looking for financial aid from Japanese, they turned their back on Asians;
When every Asian country was begging them not to depreciate their Yen. They depreciated big time.

In 1977, Japan's economy was in a mess and you think that they could help anyone? Their market did not collapse, but they were severely hit.

Such as boat smashing.

What is boat smashing?

Well, when these countries are busy accusing each other's land claim, US fleet isn't that helpful.

It is not accusation by others. It is indignation at the blatant piracy by China that reminded them of the days of Ching Shih, who terrorised the South China Sea.

 

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Begging?

Again it show how little you understand geostrategy.

It is in the interest of the US that it has a forward staging for contingencies in Asia, mainly China.

Indeed Japan has changed its image from a pacifistic to an active participating Nation in the security of the free people of Asia.

After all these words, you just can't explain why Japanese need US forces to defend them.

Again, you expose your ignorance of military geography.

Strategy is as intertwined with geography.

If you are talking about Japan in WWII, then it was all over Asia and even knocking the doors of India, with all its military resources including manpower stretched. And you think, China alone would be its centre of attention. Whatever for? China was itself fighting itself. It was being bolstered by massive aid, financial and military by the US.

Again, you exposed your ignorance of history.
Coming to the door of India was not a part of their original plan. Why do you think they started another war while the war in China was still on?
The so called "massive aid, financial and military by the US" didn't come until Dec 1941.

And are you aware that China's geography itself is its protection?
Has Russia ever been captured as a whole? Again geography played its role.
Read the 'Heartland Theory' of Military Geography.

These so called "geographic advantage" only exist for inland China. In east coast, there is no geographic obstacle to Japanese, but they still couldn't complete their mission

In 1977, Japan's economy was in a mess and you think that they could help anyone? Their market did not collapse, but they were severely hit.

No, at the time, their GDP was still bigger than other Asian countries combine; they were sitting on the no.1 Fx reserve in the world; they were enjoying the largest trade surplus in the world.
Yes, they can help LOT! But they didn't, they even made it worse for those countries.

What is boat smashing?

LiveLeak.com - Chinese coast guard ships chase and smash Vietnamese patrol boat in South China Sea

It is not accusation by others. It is indignation at the blatant piracy by China that reminded them of the days of Ching Shih, who terrorised the South China Sea.

No, my friend, China is not the only one they accuse. They are accusing each other as well.

 

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After all these words, you just can't explain why Japanese need US forces to defend them.

Only the blind cannot see only the one without brains cannot fathom.

Again, you exposed your ignorance of history.
The so called "massive aid, financial and military by the US" didn't come until Dec 1941.Coming to the door of India was not a part of their original plan. Why do you think they started another war while the war in China was still on?

History is as seen by the one writing history and China is famous for fabricated history.

It was American support of China that caused the Japanese to attack the United States bringing America into the War.

President Roosevelt after hearing from Claire Chennault, who Madame Chiang Kai-Shek had hired him to train Chinese pilots, decided to help China build a modern air force. He signed an executive order 1940 which permitted U.S. military personnel to resign so that they could participate in a covert operation to support China (May 1940). This is significant because it was was the first direct American military action to impede Axis aggression. It was taken in the atmosphere of the fall of France and the president deciding to run for a third term. Subsequent Japanese actions beginning with the occupation of northern French Indo-China obly confirmed the President's decision to aid China. And the Magic intelligence from the cracking of the Japanese Diplomatic (Purple code) made it clear that the Japanese public protestations of a desire for peace were a diplomatic charade (September 1940). President Roosevelt approved the transfer of Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk fighters to China. They would be included in the Lend Lease Program (1941). The planes were originally slated for the British RAF which was just beginning to brace for the Battle of Britain. America woud eventually produce a phenomenal number of aircraft. At this time, howevr, production was still limited and the U.S. Army Air Corps struggling to obtain needed new aircraft. The President also secretly approved the formation of the American Volunteer Group (AVG) to fly the P-40s. These were the first modern fighters ever deployed in China. The AVG's main task was to protect the Burma Road so that supplied could continue to reach China. The all-volunteer AVG became known as Chennault's Flying Tigers. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor (December 1941) before the AVG could go into action. It thus no longer had to be a covert operation. Although very small, provide the Chinese a creditable air capability for the first time. Initially part of the AVG was deployed on both ends of the Burma Road. The Japanese invasion of Burma forced the Burma contingent to redeploy to China. It also cut off supplies over the Burma Road. The AVG continued to operate with supplies flown in from India over the Himilayas. The P-40s flown by the AVG were on paper no match for the fast, manueravble Japanese Zeros, but they were more robust and had armor protecting the pilots. Chennault developed battle tactics that enabled the Tigers to deal with the Zeros, but their major goal was to intercept the Japanese bombers hammering Chunking. ThecArmy Air Corps and U.S. Navy did not take the AVG seriously and did not adapt Chenault's tactics until losses in the Pacific forced them to adjust tactics. Eventually the AVG was formed into the U.S. 14th Air Force. Some of the Tigersjoined up, Others left China. Many of the new crews honored the AVG by also painting the shark's mouth image and referring to them selves as the Flying Tigers.

A Japanese carrier taskforce composed of six carriers on December 7, 1941, executed a surprise attack on the American Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor. It was a brilliant tactical victory for Japan, but perhaps the greatest mistake in modern military history as it brought a suddenly united America with its vast industrial capacity into the War. The Japanese launched 360 aircraft which in 2 hours struck Peal Harbor just as the American sailors were waking up on a sleepy Sunday morning. The strike sunk or heavily damaged six of the eight American battleships, thrre cruisrs, three destroyers, and most of the Army Air Corps planes on the island. America was at war.

These so called "geographic advantage" only exist for inland China. In east coast, there is no geographic obstacle to Japanese, but they still couldn't complete their mission

Are you suggesting that nibbling the coast of China by an invader means the whole of China has been captured?

Some logic, indeed!

No, at the time, their GDP was still bigger than other Asian countries combine; they were sitting on the no.1 Fx reserve in the world; they were enjoying the largest trade surplus in the world.

Rather odd logic given the facts and the global economy of the time.

Yes, they can help LOT! But they didn't, they even made it worse for those countries.

Remember the Philippines tragedy and the peanuts given by China?

Guess why.

LiveLeak.com - Chinese coast guard ships chase and smash Vietnamese patrol boat in South China Sea

Dare to do it now.

Not on your life.

The US navy prowls having taken cognisance.

No, my friend, China is not the only one they accuse. They are accusing each other as well.

The difference is that they are ready to talk it out using UNCLOS.

China?

No chance. They are hegemons.


In short, your post indicates you not only don't know GEOGRAPHY, but also don't know HISTORY. And you pose to know both!

But then none can blame you, since you know what only your Govt thinks you need to know and that too the limited access that your Govt allows its citizens to the truth, and only that which is essential for your country's propaganda and ideological values.