Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troops

[laughingbuddha]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

Why gurkhas? What about the million strong Indian army? We harass and abuse the the northeasterners but tremble when their brethren acost us at the border. Figures.

 

[anupamsurey]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

looks like chineese are getting anxious day by day.

 

[Blackwater]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

looks like chineese are getting anxious day by day.

or may be pakis giving danda to them

 

[Free Karma]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

Okay guys, I'm confused.
3 incidents in the last 2 days.
1)Chinese stop construction of canals/water infra in demchok.
2)Chinese surround 100 Jawans.
3)IBN now claim that China is intruding on DemChok.

Ladakh MP says Chinese army creating permanent structures in Indian territory, urges Modi to act - IBNLive (Ladakh MP interview in link)
MEA have said this

However, the External Affairs Ministry has that India's border with China "is in safe hands".
"We assure you that our sentinels on the border will address the issues on the border. We are confident that our borders are in safe hands," an MEA statement said.

None of these channels are cross verifying what each other are saying. Are these just older incidents/or stuff that happens on both sides everyday, being played up close to the visit by the media?

 

[hit&run]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

The Chinese are known to up the ante in temperature, whenever there is a visit by their or our dignitaries.

Sir, It seems rouge elements of PLA who are favorable to Pakistan, wanted to make it difficult for both the state heads to move forward in the direction of trade and better relationship.

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If Indians see PLA as a morally and ethically a typical civilized world military then they are fooling themselves. PLA is just one notch better than terrorist army of Pakistan. When push come to shove they wouldn't mind taking tips from Pakistani terrorist army BTW.

NSA and PMO should ask Chinese President this time, whether he controls PLA or not; or we should fix these units for him in Chumur and other areas where they are actively needling India. Chinese president should draft a script for these rough PLA units with us, of course there will propaganda face savers planted in the same script like it happened last time when they came in and camped inside our territory last year.

 

[hitesh]

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1) A valid point, But war with India will also weaken China which has more number of enemies like Japan.

2) Pakistan is a different case, there is a nuclear umberella which India can use if things get out of control, India also have tactical nukes.

3) In Hilly terrain the ratio should be 5:1 even then victory is not guaranteed.

4) They have infrastructure in their side, once they cross the border and face the guerilla warfare, story will become different.

5) It is China that is in self induced coma provoking every neighbor.

1) China & Japan never fought any war after the worldwar2 unlike India pakistan who have ceasefire violations now & then so saying that China has more enemy would not be correct given that Pakistan is a pawn of china who could act on the instructions of his master .

2) We can't deny the possibility of 2 front war given that china-pakitan nexus who would likely take revenge of 1972 war.Pakistan too posses nuclear bomb & they are more vocal of using it with a blink of an eye in future conflict .

3)future war would not be long but short with brute force given that both country posses nuclear weapons so the long the war stretches the more the possibility of drawing N-weapons which both country would try to avoid.

4) guerrilla warfare wont stop an occupying force to halt its advance it though can inflict some damage, take J&k example pakastan has bin fighting asymmetric warfare with India with its irregular solders but did they be able to take back Kashmir ? No & Laddakh is not as densely forested as Kashmir is .

5)As china getting stronger economically & militarily its gaining confidence to take on its neighbors on its own .I wish there be an alliance b/w indo-japan keeping Americans at bay as much as possible

 

[Ancient Indian]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

Or Big bro is involved in this.
If china starts war, What is going to happen to BRIC?
I thought they were readying to take on EU and US.
I hate foreign countries.

 

[bengalraider]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

Why gurkhas? What about the million strong Indian army? We harass and abuse the the northeasterners but tremble when their brethren acost us at the border. Figures.

I just used gurkhas as a representation of the martial races of India, you may convert the same to marathas, Sikhs, dogras, rajputs etc etc depending on your political or regional affiliation.

 

[arya]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

just buy su35 at least 50 from russia , buy raffale from france at fast mode .

make force strong and give message to china .

today we are very weak , but we can fight if china want . show them same method somewhere else

 

[Srinivas_K]

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Hindu bravery,lol.
Hindus are so brave and strong when it comes to terrorising weak ppl like dalits etc. But when faced with powerful ppl, they surrender quietly.

You are 100 % right

We Hindus in the land of pure, attack minorities and forcefully convert them to Hinduism, We also deny the (christians) Dalits any jobs of Higher order. Since we cannot fight them when they are praying in Churches we will use Human Bombs to finish them off.

We also attack other sects by using human bombs and also kill sikhs using hit and run tactics. Bravery of Highest order. When our holy warriors appear on tapes hinting cowardly attacks on normal civilians we say GOD is great , since this is the bravery of highest order, even though these guys give their messages hiding like rats in caves.

All because our holy book gives us solicitation, even if we kill 10 non believers if we convert one person to Hinduism our GOD as they say will forgive us.

Our forefathers and our religious preachers say that people on the other side of the border are veggies and has no muscle, since our GOD and holy book gives us the divine power.

After hearing these words and believing them, even a weak coward in our bunch used to think we are the winners and we can show false bravado and utter nonsense about the non believers. We used to boast ourselves stupidly that we are superior and we can take on any one.

we used to think we are equals to 10 of them. After we got defeated and surrendered we realized they are difficult to beat but still our bravery has not diminished since we bomb them using hit and run tactics. Even if we destroy GOD's creations for no reason with madness our GOD will forgive us. Because our GOD only needs five times prayer and a convert (no matter how many lies have been told or how many beatings given to that person).

We don't need to do anything creative or constructive, our holy book forbids thinking, we are like hired guns of GOD we destroy every thing and our payment is ticket to heaven ,"only for gents :thumb:", since Gents can only enjoy there. Atleast we think like that.

 

[ezsasa]

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We will have to see if such bullying tactics will continue after the Xi's visit.

However if they do continue even after, i would love to see a sort of Rapid action team in full tactical gear deployed from our side with in a matter of an hour or so on the clock every time. The deployment should be like a minimum of 1.5:1 ratio of men descending on them from helicopters at the same time. With a little planning and choreography such show of force can be intimidating. People with bully or superiority complex do not respond to words, they however will recognise an equal when they see one. A bully always recognises agressive posturing, at the back of their mind they know what they are doing.

I have mentioned helicopters because i am assuming chinese are employing such tactics only where they know for a fact there is no patrolling,and helis are the fastest way of transportation under such circumstances. This method might cost a bit more but this will have definitive results in the long term.

Psychological warfare is the only way to make them understand. HQ should put some thought into this.

 

[Srinivas_K]

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1) China & Japan never fought any war after the worldwar2 unlike India pakistan who have ceasefire violations now & then so saying that China has more enemy would not be correct given that Pakistan is a pawn of china who could act on the instructions of his master .

Things have changed on the pacific after the rise of China, the enemity is bitter between Japan and China. China wants to grab the Islands with swift action there by subduing it . On the Other hand Japan is taking these actions very seriously it do not want to loose the initiative against China. This area is full of tensions.

2) We can't deny the possibility of 2 front war given that china-pakitan nexus who would likely take revenge of 1972 war.Pakistan too posses nuclear bomb & they are more vocal of using it with a blink of an eye in future conflict .

I am speaking in terms of two front war, If things go out of control there is a nuclear option. India has ABM systems and India can use nukes on its own soils if the defensive line is breached.

3)future war would not be long but short with brute force given that both country posses nuclear weapons so the long the war stretches the more the possibility of drawing N-weapons which both country would try to avoid.

The answer is Guerilla warfare just like NATO is bleeding in Afghanistan, India can do the same to the China in occupied territories. Supply lines are difficult to maintain in that terrain.

4) guerrilla warfare wont stop an occupying force to halt its advance it though can inflict some damage, take J&k example pakastan has bin fighting asymmetric warfare with India with its irregular solders but did they be able to take back Kashmir ? No & Laddakh is not as densely forested as Kashmir is .

If you see the terrain Kashmir is a continuous area, not the case on North east or Indo Tibetan border. Chinese supplies have to come down from the plateau through mountain passes.

5)As china getting stronger economically & militarily its gaining confidence to take on its neighbors on its own .I wish there be an alliance b/w indo-japan keeping Americans at bay as much as possible

Americans have already given assurance to Japan that any aggressiveness of China on Japanese administered territory will be retaliated.

 

[Kshatriya87]

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You are 100 % right

We Hindus in the land of pure, attack minorities and forcefully convert them to Hinduism, We also deny the (christians) Dalits any jobs of Higher order. Since we cannot fight them when they are praying in Churches we will use Human Bombs to finish them off.

We also attack other sects by using human bombs and also kill sikhs using hit and run tactics. Bravery of Highest order. When our holy warriors appear on tapes hinting cowardly attacks on normal civilians we say GOD is great , since this is the bravery of highest order, even though these guys give their messages hiding like rats in caves.

All because our holy book gives us solicitation, even if we kill 10 non believers if we convert one person to Hinduism our GOD as they say will forgive us.

Our forefathers and our religious preachers say that people on the other side of the border are veggies and has no muscle, since our GOD and holy book gives us the divine power.

After hearing these words and believing them, even a weak coward in our bunch used to think we are the winners and we can show false bravado and utter nonsense about the non believers. We used to boast ourselves stupidly that we are superior and we can take on any one.

we used to think we are equals to 10 of them. After we got defeated and surrendered we realized they are difficult to beat but still our bravery has not diminished since we bomb them using hit and run tactics. Even if we destroy GOD's creations for no reason with madness our GOD will forgive us. Because our GOD only needs five times prayer and a convert (no matter how many lies have been told or how many beatings given to that person).

We don't need to do anything creative or constructive, our holy book forbids thinking, we are like hired guns of GOD we destroy every thing and our payment is ticket to heaven ,"only for gents :thumb:", since Gents can only enjoy there. Atleast we think like that.

LMAO.. I think Genius soiled his pants.

 

[Kshatriya87]

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The worst thing is, I didn't see any news channels reporting this serious incident yesterday. And still no further reports on the surrounded soldiers. I think the media is being kept quite about this. Anyone finds anything new, please post here.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

LMAO.. I think Genius soiled his pants.

I am looking for him

To know some more things about Hindus

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

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The worst thing is, I didn't see any news channels reporting this serious incident yesterday. And still no further reports on the surrounded soldiers. I think the media is being kept quite about this. Anyone finds anything new, please post here.

Yesterday evening news x and india tv did report it.

 

[captonjohn]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

1) China & Japan never fought any war after the worldwar2 unlike India pakistan who have ceasefire violations now & then so saying that China has more enemy would not be correct given that Pakistan is a pawn of china who could act on the instructions of his master .

2) We can't deny the possibility of 2 front war given that china-pakitan nexus who would likely take revenge of 1972 war.Pakistan too posses nuclear bomb & they are more vocal of using it with a blink of an eye in future conflict .

3)future war would not be long but short with brute force given that both country posses nuclear weapons so the long the war stretches the more the possibility of drawing N-weapons which both country would try to avoid.

4) guerrilla warfare wont stop an occupying force to halt its advance it though can inflict some damage, take J&k example pakastan has bin fighting asymmetric warfare with India with its irregular solders but did they be able to take back Kashmir ? No & Laddakh is not as densely forested as Kashmir is .

5)As china getting stronger economically & militarily its gaining confidence to take on its neighbors on its own .I wish there be an alliance b/w indo-japan keeping Americans at bay as much as possible

I agree but Chinese are not experienced for long time warfare and if China attacks on India it would be a long term war. So after initial gain China will have to step back or watch being defeated and repelled by Indian army. Pakistan is now fully prepared for war and it won't lose such golden change to take revenge of 1971 and to take Kashmir. The only solution to this problem is a strong defence along LAC. Fortify the positions inside LAC up to 150 kms with bunkers land mins soldiers brigades, etc. That would hold the strong thrust from China. China seems to believe in Hitler's war strategy. Start with a strong thrust to blow things away. There should be done to hold Pakistani attack so we can stop them or divert their attention to other things.

 

[t_co]

Re: Another face-off as 300 Chinese soldiers surround 100 Indian troop

Okay guys, I'm confused.
3 incidents in the last 2 days.
1)Chinese stop construction of canals/water infra in demchok.
2)Chinese surround 100 Jawans.
3)IBN now claim that China is intruding on DemChok.

Ladakh MP says Chinese army creating permanent structures in Indian territory, urges Modi to act - IBNLive (Ladakh MP interview in link)
MEA have said this

None of these channels are cross verifying what each other are saying. Are these just older incidents/or stuff that happens on both sides everyday, being played up close to the visit by the media?

What are the reports that Zee News is citing?

 

[Ragnar]

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I cannot post links yet, but the latest article titled "Beijing and New Delhi can open an Indo-Asia-Pacific era" on Global Times Op-ed says this:

"Some Indian scholars hold that political divergences could be separated from economic cooperation when it comes to India-China relationship. This is infeasible. Sound political relations are the guarantee of economic cooperation. Border disputes are the root cause of mutual distrust between China and India. But both are doing their best to find a solution"

China wants a speedy resolution. Border incursions are pressure tactics. The message is: We want economic co-operation too.. But solve border disputes fast or we will annex territory by force.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

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Any updates about our soldiers?