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"China's new Yuan-class sub seen preparing for sea trials
Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington, DC and James Hardy, London and Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
09 April 2014


A new variant of the Type 039C/Type 041 Yuan-class conventional submarine with a raked sail. (Source: Via Top 81 web page)

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"¢ Images of a new variant of China's Type 041 Yuan-class conventional submarine suggest it is being prepared for sea trials
"¢ Images also suggest Chinese shipbuilders are starting to plan a large surface combatant that may be a next-generation destroyer or cruiser

New Chinese-sourced imagery shows that the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) continues to modify its Type 041 Yuan class conventional submarine and that it is making progress towards a new large destroyer or cruiser.

On 10 and 11 December 2013 the first images of a new variant of the Type 041 - also sometimes referred to as the Type 039A, Type 039C or Type 039X - appeared on Chinese military web forums. It had just been launched by the Wuhan Shipyard of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC), the major manufacturer of China's non-nuclear powered submarines. Only seen partially in these first images, a new image seen on 6 April shows the new Type 041 variant has a raked sail that is similar to recent German SSK designs.

This new sail design may incorporate an additional high-frequency sonar at the base of the sail, as do some other submarines with similar designs. This Type 041 may also be slightly longer than previous variants.

Uncorroborated Chinese sources have suggested that the new variant displaces about 3,500 tons compared to about 3,000 tons for earlier Type 041s. This could indicate that the new variant has more weapons - IHS Jane's Fighting Ships states that the existing variants are armed with YJ-2 (YJ-82) anti-ship missiles and a combination of Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes. Yu-6 wake-homing torpedoes may also be carried.

The basic export version, marketed as the S20 and unveiled in February 2013, displaces about 2,300 tons.

Since 2004 12 Type 041 submarines are believed to have been launched, while the US Department of Defense estimated in its May 2013 annual report on China's military to Congress that production could reach 20 ships. (article continues)"
 

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China's new Yuan-class sub seen preparing for sea trials | IHS Jane's 360

"China's new Yuan-class sub seen preparing for sea trials
Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington, DC and James Hardy, London and Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
09 April 2014


A new variant of the Type 039C/Type 041 Yuan-class conventional submarine with a raked sail. (Source: Via Top 81 web page)

Key Points


"¢ Images of a new variant of China's Type 041 Yuan-class conventional submarine suggest it is being prepared for sea trials
"¢ Images also suggest Chinese shipbuilders are starting to plan a large surface combatant that may be a next-generation destroyer or cruiser

New Chinese-sourced imagery shows that the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) continues to modify its Type 041 Yuan class conventional submarine and that it is making progress towards a new large destroyer or cruiser.

On 10 and 11 December 2013 the first images of a new variant of the Type 041 - also sometimes referred to as the Type 039A, Type 039C or Type 039X - appeared on Chinese military web forums. It had just been launched by the Wuhan Shipyard of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC), the major manufacturer of China's non-nuclear powered submarines. Only seen partially in these first images, a new image seen on 6 April shows the new Type 041 variant has a raked sail that is similar to recent German SSK designs.

This new sail design may incorporate an additional high-frequency sonar at the base of the sail, as do some other submarines with similar designs. This Type 041 may also be slightly longer than previous variants.

Uncorroborated Chinese sources have suggested that the new variant displaces about 3,500 tons compared to about 3,000 tons for earlier Type 041s. This could indicate that the new variant has more weapons - IHS Jane's Fighting Ships states that the existing variants are armed with YJ-2 (YJ-82) anti-ship missiles and a combination of Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes. Yu-6 wake-homing torpedoes may also be carried.

The basic export version, marketed as the S20 and unveiled in February 2013, displaces about 2,300 tons.

Since 2004 12 Type 041 submarines are believed to have been launched, while the US Department of Defense estimated in its May 2013 annual report on China's military to Congress that production could reach 20 ships. (article continues)"
PN has a requirement for 10 Yuan class subs: an order for first six is to be signed before the end of the year.
 

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PN has a requirement for 10 Yuan class subs: an order for first six is to be signed before the end of the year.
Will raheel sharieef will sign or ganja???😝😝
 

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Other nations quietly and quickly go about with their weapon development and procurement while we in India sit on files because we're afraid of a scam that may arise 10 years from now due to a decision taken today.
I say give the military budget to the military.
 

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PN has a requirement for 10 Yuan class subs: an order for first six is to be signed before the end of the year.
how you gonna pay for that with your ass.:rofl::lol::laugh:
 

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LOL ,Hindustan Times...
As quoted by China Daily Mail...

1. China does not need to import any diesel engine.
2. German will never sale its submarine engine to China.
Cites, please.
 

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... the most strategic item obtained by China on its European shopping spree is below the waterline: the German-engineered diesels inside its submarines.

Emulating the rising powers of last century - Germany, Japan and the Soviet Union - China is building a powerful submarine fleet, including domestically built Song and Yuan-class boats. The beating hearts of these subs are state-of-the-art diesel engines designed by MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH of Friedrichshafen, Germany. Alongside 12 advanced Kilo-class submarines imported from Russia, these 21 German-powered boats are the workhorses of China's modern conventional submarine force.

With Beijing flexing its muscles around disputed territory in the East China Sea and South China Sea, China's diesel-electric submarines are potentially the PLA's most serious threat to its American and Japanese rivals. This deadly capability has been built around robust and reliable engine technology from Germany, a core member of the U.S.-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Chinese Military's Secret to Success: European Engineering

Link cites Reuters as source.
 

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so?



Can you find any link for what kind of submarine engine German sold to China?
This article names manufacturer.

The beating hearts of these subs are state-of-the-art diesel engines designed by MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH of Friedrichshafen, Germany. Alongside 12 advanced Kilo-class submarines imported from Russia, these 21 German-powered boats are the workhorses of China's modern conventional submarine force.
State-of-the-art diesel engines - Chinese military's secret to success: European engineering | The Economic Times
 

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LOL,

Can any one make it clear that which "European diesel engines" China imported for what kind of ship?
See my post just before yours. And drop the "LOL" if you want to be taken seriously, OK?
 

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I can not find German export diesel engine to China in this report.
Here is, again, a quote from the report:

The beating hearts of these subs are state-of-the-art diesel engines designed by MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH of Friedrichshafen, Germany. Alongside 12 advanced Kilo-class submarines imported from Russia, these 21 German-powered boats are the workhorses of China's modern conventional submarine force.

With Beijing flexing its muscles around disputed territory in the East China Sea and South China Sea, China's diesel-electric submarines are potentially the PLA's most serious threat to its American and Japanese rivals. This deadly capability has been built around robust and reliable engine technology from Germany, a core member of the US-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Are you arguing perhaps engines are German-designed but Chinese-made?
 

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See my post just before yours. And drop the "LOL" if you want to be taken seriously, OK?
I can not find German export diesel engine to China in this report.
May be you can help me.
 

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