China treats Rivers as Sewer and Makes Money from the Dead

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Treating a Fabled Chinese River Like a SewerHONG KONG — It may be one of the most economically advanced areas of China, but when it comes to what it does with its sewage, Guangdong seems to be stuck firmly in the dark ages.

According to an governmental report cited by China Daily on Tuesday, three-fourths of the industrial wastewater and domestic sewage that was generated in Guangdong last year was dumped directly into local rivers.

That's 12.5 billion metric tons of untreated gunk going straight into the fabled Pearl River, the Hanjiang River Valley and other waterways, courtesy of cities such as Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Foshan and Dongguan — the crème de la crème of China's manufacturing heartland.

As shocking as it is, none of it should probably come as a surprise: Researchers have been saying for years that the region's waterways are little more than open sewers.

And it's not just raw sewage that's a culprit: Greenpeace warned in a report in 2009 of hazardous chemical pollution in the Pearl River Delta. The Pearl is China's third-longest river.

Still, the latest report ought to be an alarm for many in the region — including citizens, technocrats and politicians in Hong Kong, which sits on the eastern side of the Pearl River Delta. It's enough to put people off their seafood — and their beach plans.

Treating a Fabled Chinese River Like a Sewer - NYTimes.com
I saw a thread where a Chinese poster had shown horror about the Ganges being polluted.

Well, here is something for him;/ her to chew on!
 

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China's dark side: On Yellow River, corpses mean cash


Bodies floating in the Yellow River near Changpo Village in China's Gansu Province. Wei Jinpeng makes a living selling the bodies to families who come to claim them. | /Tom Lasseter / MCT

NEAR CHANGPO VILLAGE, China — From his perch on an overhang above the Yellow River, Wei Jinpeng pointed to a fisherman's cove below and began counting his latest catch. He stopped after six, and guessed that perhaps a dozen human corpses were bobbing in the murky waters.

The bodies were floating facedown and tethered by ropes to the shore, their mud-covered limbs and rumps protruding from the water.

Wei is a fisher of dead people. He scans the river for cadavers, drags them to shore with a small boat and then charges grieving families to recover their relatives' corpses. Wei said he kept the faces submerged to preserve their features. Any dispute about identity makes it harder to collect his bounty.

Wei doesn't worry about how they got here, but he's heard tales over the years from relatives who've come to claim the bodies, haunting portraits of average people crushed in the extraordinary stress of China's economic boom.

While some of the 80 to 100 bodies Wei gathers each year are victims of accidents and floods, he thinks that the majority end up in the river after suicide or murder. There's no overt sign of a crime spree, though there's evidence of many people taking their own lives. Indeed, suicide is the leading cause of death for women in rural China, and 26 percent of all suicides in the world take place in the nation, according to the World Health Organization

Most of the bodies apparently are swept downriver from Lanzhou, the provincial capital of Gansu in the country's northwest. The city boasts rows of new skyscrapers, built by a rush of poor laborers with few rights, and businessmen notorious for operating above the law.

The work of "body fishers" has received increased attention in Chinese media lately, including the release of a documentary about a clan of them who work near Wei. One English-language state newspaper described the profession as "living on the dead"; it noted that the filmmaker saw the family retrieving bodies almost daily.

Wei's fishing spot is about 18 miles from Lanzhou. A bend in the river and a hydroelectric dam slow the currents and give the bodies a place to float to the surface.

The family members who come to claim them whisper about a father who, unable to make ends meet with low pay, killed himself by jumping off a bridge. Wei also has retrieved bodies with gagged mouths and bound hands, the hallmark of criminal gangs and corrupt police. Finally, there are the remains of young women whom no one recognizes, which Wei eventually cuts loose back into the river, he said.

"Most of the bodies that are not claimed by relatives are female migrant workers who had moved to Lanzhou," said Wei, who drives a red motorcycle and wears large circle-rimmed sunglasses. "Most of them have been murdered. ... Their families don't know; they think they're still working in Lanzhou."

The families who are left to search for the deceased often do so without much help from the police and, instead, have to haggle with men such as Wei over the price of the dead.

A Lanzhou business journal wrote in 2006 about a local firm that got a call from a body fisher who'd found a corpse floating in the river with employee identification. When a company representative, identified only by the surname Wang, went to collect the body, he was told that it would cost 200 yuan (about $30) to view the face and 6,000 yuan ($895) to take the dead man away. Wang and the body fisher argued, finally settling on 4,000 yuan ($597). The news article expressed outrage at the situation and quoted police as saying there'd be a crackdown, something that almost four years later has yet to happen.

Body fishing is by all accounts a thriving business in Gansu province; practitioners advertise their names and phone numbers by painting them on the sides of buildings near the river. Chinese newspapers and news websites have run stories recently about body fishers working from the southwest mega-city of Chonqing to the eastern coastal province of Shandong.

Wei and others said they called the police when they'd found murder victims, though it isn't clear that's always the case.

"They're not only making a business from this, but they're cheating people," said Zhu Wenhuan, a Lanzhou man who's visited Wei twice looking for his mother after she vanished June 3.

Police in the area refused interview requests for this story.

However, Lanzhou residents and news accounts confirmed much of what Wei and his colleagues said.

For example, the wife of Lanzhou resident Zhang Daqiang went missing on May 22. On the suspicion that his wife had flung herself into the river because of problems at work, Zhang has posted fliers and made the rounds of local body fishers. In a telephone interview, he told McClatchy that his wife was facing increased pressure at work after management withheld pay and canceled holidays. She's one of three workers who've disappeared since employees at the company staged a strike in March to protest the conditions, Zhang said.

Lanzhou is a dusty outpost compared with the glitter of a Shanghai, but it anchors a province whose economic output more than doubled from 2004 to 2009. There are BMW and Audi dealerships near towering office buildings in what once was a part of the old Silk Road.

Dong Xiangrong, a Lanzhou university student, said that everyone knew the other side of that new wealth: Workers in the city of some 2 million people, especially migrants, are at times treated like cattle.

"Sometimes their bosses don't pay them, and when they go to argue, the bosses beat them and dump them in the river," Dong, 21, said with a matter-of-fact tone.

Sitting at a nearby park, the Ma brothers paused to consider the issue.

"Some employers don't pay the staff, so their employees commit suicide," said Ma Yinglong, a 55-year-old retired factory worker.

Ma Yingbao, a 44-year-old who's out of work, added: "There could be many reasons for a body to be in the river. ... Some people are under too much pressure."

Before Wei got into the business in 2003, he ran a pear orchard and made some 4,000 yuan a year. He now charges 500 yuan when a farmer comes to gather a body, 2,000 yuan if the customer has a job and 3,000 yuan when a company is covering the bill.

Wei acknowledged that some in the community criticize the work as profiting from tragedy. He pointed out that it's a job that few others are willing to do. Several people in Lanzhou agreed that without Wei and others scooping up bodies, there'd be no way to collect the dead.

Just down the road, Wei Yingquan and his two sons, who were profiled in the documentary, have diversified from sheep farming to body fishing. They charge people 300 yuan (about $45) just to turn over corpses to see whether they recognize them.

"Some people say that I am a swindler, that I am kidnapping bodies," said Wei Yingquan, a 64-year-old with tobacco-stained teeth and a grimy white sweater. Nevertheless, he said, "people come every day to look at the bodies."

China's dark side: On Yellow River, corpses mean cash | McClatchy
The Chinese poster showed horror and indignation that there were dead bodies thrown in the Ganges!

Very concerned the poster was.

However, interestingly, even if there are corpse floating in the Ganges, Indians do have the basic dignity for the dead and humanity of not making money out of the dead.

China sniff money everywhere as a bloodhound does.

They do not spare the dead also!

Money is their religion.
 

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However, interestingly, even if there are corpse floating in the Ganges, Indians do have the basic dignity for the dead and humanity of not making money out of the dead.

China sniff money everywhere as a bloodhound does.

They do not spare the dead also!

Money is their religion.
Indians eat their deads. Probably a lesson for the chinese right there. It is either that or leave the dead in the river. I assuming that is your way of showing "respect". :sad:
 

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Indians eat their deads. Probably a lesson for the chinese right there. It is either that or leave the dead in the river. I assuming that is your way of showing "respect". :sad:
Is it respectable for the Chinese to feed melamine and other assorted chemicals to their babies?
 

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Sure, that is how they become the most populous nation on earth. Sarcasme ends. :rolleyes:
Got it. They have become the most populous. So CCP has directed parents to get rid of their babies by feeding them melamine! Expected from the CCP but how could the parents comply! :tsk:
 

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Got it. They have become the most populous. So CCP has directed parents to get rid of their babies by feeding them melamine! Expected from the CCP but how could the parents comply! :tsk:
Because they are mindless robots according to all knowing indian posters like you?:laugh:
 

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Because I leave all the answers to you. :rofl: I only ask questions.

"So CCP has directed parents to get rid of their babies by feeding them melamine! Expected from the CCP but how could the parents comply"

To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge.
-Sokrates
 

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Because I leave all the answers to you. :rofl: I only ask questions.

"So CCP has directed parents to get rid of their babies by feeding them melamine! Expected from the CCP but how could the parents comply"

To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge.
-Sokrates

Usual Chinese obfuscation and mystery!

What exactly do you wish to convey?

That China is a freakish nation?
 

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ndians eat their deads.
Please give us a break.

Here is what is China

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Some of the Chinese people are known to be eating babies and the news circulated through the internet or via Email communication is shocking the world.
An Email report received by The Seoul Times confirmed that news with several vivid and appalling pictures of human embryos fetuses being made into a soup for human consumption.

The report went on. A town in the southern province of Canton (Guangdong) is now on trend taking baby herbal soup to increase overall health and stamina and the power of sexual performance in particular.

The cost in China currency approximately $ 4000 (it is about Rs2000).

A factory manager was interviewed and he testified that it is effective because he is a frequent customer.

It is a delicacy whereby expensive herbs are added to boil the baby with chicken meat for eight hours of boiling and steaming.

He pointed to his second wife next to him. She is 19 years old. The 62-year-old man testified that they have sex everyday.

After waiting for a couple of weeks he took this reporter to the restaurant when he was informed by restaurant manager that the spare rib soup (local code for baby soup) was now available.



his time it was a couple who have two daughters and this third one was confirmed to be a daughter again. So the couple aborted the baby which was five months old.

Those baby who is close to be born and die naturally costs 2000 in China currency. Those aborted ones cost a few hundreds in China currency.
Those couples who did not want to sell dead babies, placentas can be accepted also for couple of hundreds.

One local reporter was quoted as saying that this is the problem arising from Chinese taking too much attention in health or is the backfire effect when China introduced one child in a family policy.
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This heinous crimes rise from the fact that majority of Chinese people prefer to have male babies and the poor families end up selling their female babies.
Dead babied can be purchased in Taiwan for 70 US dollars for being used as grilled delicacies.






A baby is lying on the chopping board with other food material.

 

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Inhuman race is all what one can say!

And the temerity to hector without proof!
 

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Indians eat their deads. Probably a lesson for the chinese right there. It is either that or leave the dead in the river. I assuming that is your way of showing "respect". :sad:
To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge.
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Finally!

Your stay here at this forum is surely helping you develop your logical thinking capabilities! All done free of cost.
 

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Yuck to that baby soup.

As usual, Iceberg is trolling just like other 50 centers.Their life depends on it.
 

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Ray sahab!!!! i did see these ppics some time ago where dead foetus are eaten as aphrodisiacs in china1!!! barbarians!!!!
 

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Yuck to that baby soup.

As usual, Iceberg is trolling just like other 50 centers.Their life depends on it.
Unlike some troll who like to post hoax to fool uneducated kids around here. I usually provide links and evidences.

And the baby soup? read this:
Baby herbal soup update « Ethical Martini
internet hoax « Ethical Martini

That hoax is almost as old as the internet. This forum certainly has reached a new low level. :sad:

That including someone who is old enough to know better.
 

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Ethical Martini is your source?

What is their credentials?

As good as Epoch Times?

The photos tell the tale, notwithstanding the whining protestations!
 
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Ray sahab!!!! i did see these ppics some time ago where dead foetus are eaten as aphrodisiacs in china1!!! barbarians!!!!
see the bizarre food they eat.

Iceberg will also call it a hoax!


Eating BIZARRE Foods at the Beijing Night Market
Toan: Eating BIZARRE Foods at the Beijing Night Market | Around the World "L"!

Exotic Foods of China (insects, snails & more)

The Chinese and Exotic Foods
The Chinese an Exotic Food Legends

Weird food eaten in China
Amazing and Amusing Planet: Weird food eaten in China
 
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I however do not know what Ethical Martini has to say of those links! :pound:
 

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