View Poll Results: Who would you vote for, if you were a US citizen ?

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    Here is a counterpoint to the sycophantic "Obama warrior" meme.

    Huge Defense Cuts By President Obama Would Hollow Out Our Military, Erode Security - Investors.com

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    Stephens: To the Class of 2012 - WSJ.com

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    Well if I agree that F-22 should be further manufactured (lines are still there, and will be kept ready for production if needed) I do not agree about FCS program, it was huge waste of money, especially on ultralight vehicles that were designed per demands from 1990's early 2000's. It's good that they were cut, but saved money should be invested more in to recap and modernization of currently existing fleet of AFV's, and in top R&D for their future replacements.

    But other than that senator is preatty much right, Obama seems to be... naive and overidealistic, and world don't work that way.
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    At least he had the good judgment to oppose the clumsily conceived Iraqi invasion, which is the single biggest drain in American finances (in reply to Mr. Ewald's quoted article). Had it not been for this unsound decision (Iraqi invasion) the current administration may not have to make severe cutbacks in defense spending... (This is not counting the huge diplomatic cost of this invasion.)

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    I suggest a completely separate sub-forum be created within DFI for the worship of Obama.
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    No need, this "Obama-Worship" thread will do.
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    I certainly would not suggest a "catch and release" policy for the enemy. Only an Obama Warrior would advocate for that.

    As for our "terminal decline" you may gloat all you want, but what will happen to your flyspeck of a country when the US goes away?

    Long-range thinking is not your strong suit, is it?

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    I understand why you worship our post-American and anti-Israel president.

    Malaysia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Well, smaller pacific and Asia region countries, might be in trouble if USA decides to withdraw and isolate from the world as in the past. This will definetly lead to China more agressive politics, and who will oppose then?

    USA is not perfect but on the other hand what else we have? But there is a hope, USA allways had a times of increase and decrease in economy, some wear far worser than that "crisis" we have now. It might be just a cycle of such times, and USA allways ended stronger after each crisis, so not everything is that bad in a long term, the problematic question is how long the decrease in US economy will be functioning before increase cycle will replace it, and this might be problematic.
    Last edited by Damian; 08-05-12 at 04:46 PM.
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    He is in a position to be idealistic and even utopian. Either way he is a liar, i mean just another politician.

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    This is why he is not good politician. Good politician and leader is realist, cunning and smart, do not belive in cheap ideals like "everyone love everyone" and such BS.

    But this only prooves very old truth, Democracy is not good overall (even if US democracy was and is still the best form of this system). Monarchy is better, King, Emperor etc. will treat his nation, country, state as his property and will take care of it, make hard decisions to ensure prosperity and future for it, and if not... well who is easier to be poisoned, a bad king or 500 senators, prime minister and president that are all unable to properly rule country? Answer is easy eh?

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    Yah, those silly asian people. Without the US, they will surely fall apart.

    Yah, How will the world survive without them. without their divine guidance, they surely will tear each other apart.

    And Obama is naive and not a good politician? hahhahahahah.

    Someone are easily fooled, I guess.
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    I think You completely not understand reality, what is typical for people living in a country with goverment like that in PRC.

    Asians are not sillyt, nor they will fall arapt without US. It is a matter of choice, do they want to live under PRC's complete reign that will not be good for them ( know how it is to live in a country that was controlled by communists/socialists from a much bigger country with far more resources and military power, and it's not nice thing.

    So they can choose relative indepencene under US that will respect their independence or PRC that will use every occasion to spread it's power over the region, that is typical for power hungry morons from communist/socialist party (parties).

    Yes it is. He decrease military spending while increasing taxes and increasing hidden taxes by spending money on ineffective and expensive public healthcare for example, that leads to money waste, and high taxes make normal citizens less wealthy. It is typical for public social help programs that forces working citizens to sponsor mostly not productive citizens.

    In simple words : more goverment, taxes, public programs spending money on mostly useless things and less private activity, less wealther for normal citizens because they need to pay for these "free" services, then we have more decrease in economy. There are of course other factors like unnececary support of state for big companys if they are uneffective. In normal situation they should fall making place for new, more effective companys. Just like in natural cycle of born and death, old and ineffective makes place for young and more effective. This is normal situation. Idealist with left wing ideology and political views do not see or understand this and lead to absurdal situations, and in effect in to decrease in economic growith of state and wealthare of citizens that need to pay for "great ideas of their leaders".

    PRC have this luck that actually it's goverment may use still preatty low life level of most of it's citizens, pay them less money for their work, and export cheap products, so goverment can make money on that.

    But it looks like a typical short seeing, the biggest market for these cheap products is USA, so what happens when USA withdraw from competition? Or even it's economy collapse? Chine losts it's market, lost it's profits, and there is no other such market on this planet that can replace USA. So decline of USA means decline of PRC in the reality because PRC's economy is based mostly on very weak basis.

    This is simplified but preatty much correct.

    Words of a man where goverment and stare are censorship happy and there is strong state propaganda of "how great we are and others sucks"... Please, I know too much how honest are people from communist/socialist states.

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